Thats what you get when you make transparent changes to AVOID a potential shitshow. Wouldn't have happened if they'd just dropped the chant entirely.

To you its a triviality, to a lot of long term players its the astroturfing of a time honored tradition at the complaints of a fraction of a fraction of the playerbase who don't even have the beginnings of a well constructed argument about it. Like i said above...would have been better to just remove it, especially given the replacement and how it sounds being shouted in german (where the game has had a pretty big following in the past)

Pretty much, i mean the returning playerbase is coming from a time where prize support included actual swords and there were 50+ 50-200 person tournaments every summer plus huge origins, gen con, and dragon con tournaments, a subscription service with exclusive promo cards, seasonal in store tournament packs, and swag well beyond full bleeds and a lanyard. Now i get that this isn't how it is and that FFG isn't going to go overboard the way AEG did But for a significant chunk of the playerbase this is "We're keeping like 75% of what you had prior" not some hot new unprecedented announcement. Its good and cool that they're keeping kotei season and a world championship, but the alteration of a tradition based on the complaints of a really REALLY small segment of the playing population is a bit more controversial and worthy of discussion than "yay they're going to keep doing tournaments". What is there to actually discuss regarding that? If its hot and new for standard FFG lcg's I mean cool, but its pretty standard l5r stuff.

Better to step on the necks of the posters who create the kind of petty complaint that made the AEG boards a hellhole early.

Don't be one wont get called one. I feel bad for your local gaming group/s

Which good thing is that?

I strongly expect that at some point there will be cards you'll want in other clans packs.

Dude you used a hyperbolic analogy poorly, get over it and stop trying to double down. Edit: Also, dude, you're a professional writer, and this forum puts a nice red underline under misspelled words. Don't try to condescend to me with definitions and then misspell the word being defined.

If your position is that a chant used by multiple cultures today and that happened to be used in a war, against the allies (including my seabee great grandfather), 70+ years ago is analogous to terminology used by people who held another people in slavery for hundreds of years then continued to use that terminology to denigrate them for a century or more after the fact i question your sense of perspective entirely Flory.

I have hard feelings, i can think of few things any game needs less of than nitpicky players like OP.

I don't think it was really terribly popular in east asia outside the philippines, that may have more to do with "historical fiction" tending to be more interesting to people outside that culture than inside it.

Also, congrats Lord Blunt, you found a hypocrite. I'm not sure when it became virtuous to avoid offending hypocrites with their own hypocrisy but here we are. Edit: on top of which doesn't that really back up my earlier point where the louder and more intolerant of certain kinds of offense people get the more skeletons they have in their closet regarding that behavior?

Its not analogous to this AT ALL. This is a stupid comparison. Hyperbolic in the extreme and an example of why you have around a 50% support ratio for your posts. Yknow, since we're using post count as a metric might as well use likes as a metric too.

Yeah, better to just ditch it entirely though. Seriously translate that into german then yell it out loud a few times.

I'd submit that a page and a half of discussion on the topic means thats more of a matter of interest than the expected poor prize support compared to AEG going overboard for years.

I don't. The louder someone (not actually of a directly oppressed group) is about an issue of justice for an oppressed group (they arent actually part of) the more convinced I am that they have a whole batallion of skeletons in their closet regarding the very issue they're "upset" about because when you're making your voice loudest, it becomes about you, not them. Vocally Intersectional feminist dude guilty of sexually harassing/assaulting women is the 2010's version of anti-gay republican looking for gay sex on the DL.

Its not even american sensibilities. Its a handful of loudmouths with blogs sensiblities.

Its in the sidebar man

This...in every way they'd be wise to just remove chanting entirely if they aren't going to keep the tradition.

The reality is that protest in the games community eventually just turns into non-participation.

Its the way its GOING to go. You don't get to keep the community and enthusiasm built up around a tradition by discarding the tradition. Edit: I'm not even claiming they should have kept the banzaii chant, im saying that this other one is "new coke" and is going to be received like "new coke"

Realistically, if they were going to get bent about the banzaii chant they should have done away with chanting altogether. The new one is going to be filled with people shouting banzaii anyway, people sarcastically screaming responses at the top of their lungs, and is by and large just going to be a ***********. Just do away with the chanting FF. If the OG chant isn't good enough for you you're not going to be able to astroturf enthusiasm for some bland new one.

Its too bad their plan didn't include waiting for more of the sad sacks from prior editions to find other hobbies tbqh.

You had initiatives with a dice component for every unit on the field. It might not have been an overly complex game for the time period with games like Confrontation running around, but by the standards of any minis game that has displayed longevity...way too complex.

Thats a game that could seriously do with major simplification, and possibly a rescaling to more like Warmahordes model count.