Thanks. I am a noodge. I spent a few weeks reading and such....even the Index you mentioned.... and never saw the rules for Lieutenant Cards. gawd. Sometimes you just have to open your eyes eh?

I have always loved these types of games. Warhammer Quest and Hero Quest are very fond memories for me...and I still play HQ with my 10 year and 9 year old. Any case I have watched Descent on the sidelines....until recently. I dove in...headfrist and with both feet. Bought the core set, Heirs of Blood, Shadow of Nerekhall, and Deepenhall. The only thing that eludes me is the campaign system and by that I mean: 1. What are Rumor Cards and where do I find the rules? 2. Plot cards? Same thing as Q1 3. Advanced Quest cards? I ask because I am playing solo to learn the rules until i can convince my club to play a quest or two (we are in the middle of Imperial assault and plan on something after that). So as I am going through this I played First blood, then did the travel part. The first card I drew was the Deepenhall quest. Is that right? Is that how it works? I don't know. Any case...help a brother out. HA!

And you got all that from my post? Do I know you? Do you know me?

RAW is not in any way a logical fallacy... I'm all for house rules and people doing what they find enjoyable. But RAW should be default for everyone until they agree on something else. If I walk into a game store and sit down with some random person to play Armada, or any other game for that matter. RAW is going to be the default method both players should be using, and should be what both assume the other will be using. If at some point something comes up and you both agree to something, then play it that way. But if you start acting like a jerk because the other person wants to play by the rules as written, you're simply a jerk. My usual response to the RAW crowd is "of course. How else am I supposed to understand them? Osmosis?" But just because something isn't logical doesn't mean it's wrong. Don't misunderstand me. My flippant attitude towards RAW and RAI as interpretive measures is just that....flippant because it can take one down incorrect paths and disallows any other interpretation other then what the originator thinks. Logic is the pursuit of truth. Not right vs wrong. Just because I don't agree doesn't mean you have jump off into the deep end of the pool. Am I being a jerk? Probably, but we are talking about a unique individual mindset that comes to the table already setting the stage. And well....given that mindset what why should I let him have all the fun? I agree that both players have to work out the fiddly things...that's bound to happen. And I think Armada has several fiddly things that will make tournaments....difficult (?). Like I said we both agreed to play a game right? So we should build on that point. But again this is a unique individual we are talking bout here. That said I think FFG does a fine job in their rules. Though, don't go too far from the topic of the original post and we are talking about a specific mindset of a player tournament or otherwise. Finally, I will never be convinced that RAW or RAI are anything other then logical fallacies, when taken to extremes and I can't recall it doing anything but that. A degree in logic and years of study are proof of enough for me and I don't expect to change any one's mind on that point...frankly I don't have the desire to. Using RAW as a shield for being right it turns in to a fallacy.

Was this our memorial day game? If so I seem to remember my fighters being far more effective then you give them credit for....they did go through yours pretty handily and do some amazing damage....just not enough. AAAANNND it was the same squadron makeup that whipped you today. That single shot that wreck the frigate was AMAZING! And yeah...I suck. Just likes it was pure tactical genius to roll over 12 damage results in a single roll. Because we all know that rolling dice takes skill, and Screed is just wrong. Wrong on so many levels I can't begin to describe. I will admit though that Admiral has a singular ability to never miss at medium-close range.

I don't play X Wing...that is to say I have played but I mainly go to a friend's house and he sets up a scenario for us. Armada....I like. I feel that Armada is not in any way tournament friendly. For one there is a population of gamers who put way too much self importance and pride in their success rate with miniature games, add prize support and recognition? Whoa...watch out. There is no way around it. Water finds the shortest path, and so will people when/where rules are involved. Create a rule to shore up a shortfall for a tournament and there will be someone there to game it. Play me and well...you're in for a treat. If you are this player you had better to be ready. In the 40K/WHF world I tend to do really stupid stuff. Things someone who has nothing else to loose would do. And sometimes it pays off...but if you are going to go the extra mile to win? Then I am going to go the extra mile to make sure that your experience is pretty bad. Heck I may forget the rules altogether and ask a bunch of questions (did this a couple times in a 40K tournament....it was pretty fun). Oh I am going to laugh, offer you a beer, make TIE figure sounds, sing the Imperial march....you may enjoy it...but...my tactics will be ridiculous. Because if you don't care...don't expect me too. At the end of the day the rules only work for those that actually care about them. RAW, RAI, or the "it doesn't say I can't" are in fact logical fallacies. They may seem reasonable, but get into that with me...and it's a whole other level of stupid. We have both agreed to play a game. A GAME. not a sport. The lest we can do is be civil about it.

Haven't posted In a while. Not really a forum person. We play in waterford.

My club has just started getting this game. Only a couple of us have it. We don't meet weekly so I don't think we are who you are looking for. From what I know it hasn't reached all the stores yet. The one I bought it from had only the one copy and no one in the store had played it yet. You should check Facebook Metro Detroit Gamers group. You might get a bite from there.