Testing Dice - Or, do my dice really hate me

[Testing Dice - Or, do my dice really hate me]

.I appreciate people looking into this running actual experiments as it is interesting to look over.  If the bias is very big, you can see it with a smaller sample size, if it is very small your tests would need to be powered (Enough samples) adequately. 

[Testing Dice - Or, do my dice really hate me]

So, this is an eight sided die, so each face should have a 1/8 chance on any given roll in theory or 12.5%X 2 (25%) of the time we get blank on red.  

 

How can we then tell if our die is biased?  That is the question ehh?

 

Obviously, the more samples we take, we should approach the mean- 12.5% for each side, so if we keep it simple and only look at blanks, to have a nice normal distribution and get 30 samples for each side, I would like to see the results for 240 random rolls in a dice tower and set you alpha error (significance) at 5%- meaning if after the rolls, we can possibly show a significant difference or 95% confidence that we have a nonrandom die.    

 

The thing is you have to set up your experiment and run and see if you prove or disprove your null (You have a random die).  

[Is Agent Blaise's Adapt a mandatory trigger?]

 

 

 

 

If they forget a trigger and I don't hold their hand to remind them I'm not cheating. I'm not even doing it with ill intention. I'm letting them control and make the decisions with their own army. Just as I would with my own.

If they forget a mandatory trigger, and you spot this and don't correct them then you are breaking the game rules intentionally.

Breaking the game rules intentionally is the very definition of cheating.

Mandatory trigger is not a decision. It's not a choice to be made. It has to be done.

This is where we disagree

They are breaking the game rules not me. I have no action to take otherwise I may as well just play the game saints myself

 

Well, I would disagree. If it is required and you notice it, you are technically obligated to keep the correct game state as per the gamesmanship maturity rules in the tournament doc.  If you are interested in playing correctly, you should say something.  Having said that, and as people have seen in actual tournaments, it is impossible to distinguish if you are intentionally ignoring the rules to gain an advantage, so the ultimate responsibility usually falls on the controlling player.  .    .

 

So, yes, you can gain an 'unfair' advantage by not saying anything but it is still wrong since it is required.  But we dont punish this player because it may have been an honest oversight... better to let a 'cheater' go then punish a new player or someone wrapped up in one's own strategy.  

 

Personally, I think all positive abilities should say 'may' to make this entire argument moot and force the controlling player to play optimally but that is not what is says unfortunately and clarified by the OP question to the designers.  

 

 

You use such negative language.

 

I'm not saying a player in good manners shouldn't say anything but they should not be held responsible for it. We're just going to have to agree to disagree because no matter how many times I state my argument you just splash in my face that I' a dirty cheater but you wouldn't hold it against me in the kindness of your heart.

 

Good thing we have such saints as you to forgive my sins.

 

I've read the tournament document again and I see where it says you need to maintain a clear game state.

 

I don't see how this applies to triggering abilities FOR YOUR OPPONENT.

 

Dude, it's not me that is the rules.  If you want to take advantage of it that is your business.  It is clear cut and dry, not me being negative or something to disagree with, it is the rules.  Havent said that, I would personally just FAQ these triggers as 'may'.    

 

Question:

In a competitive tournament setting, am I required to remind my opponent about certain abilities that the cards do not suggest are optional. For example, the Trandoshan Hunters and IG88 have the Relentless ability that says when you declare an attack on a target within 3 spaces, the target takes 1 strain. If the opponent declares an attack and does not mention the relentless ability, am I forced to remind him according to the rules since it is not optional. Same question for Royal Guards Vengeance ability. If the answer is no for these, are there any abilities where I am required to remind the opponent?

 

Answer:

The answer is yes, both players are responsible for maintaining the game state. Mandatory triggers are both players responsibility to recognize, both positive and negative.

Optional triggers however, while it is polite to ask your opponent if they want to complete a trigger that says “may” or is otherwise optional it is not required of the players to complete optional triggers.

 

 

So, if you recognize a trigger but choose to ignore it, what do you think you are doing?

[Is Agent Blaise's Adapt a mandatory trigger?]

 

 

If they forget a trigger and I don't hold their hand to remind them I'm not cheating. I'm not even doing it with ill intention. I'm letting them control and make the decisions with their own army. Just as I would with my own.

If they forget a mandatory trigger, and you spot this and don't correct them then you are breaking the game rules intentionally.

Breaking the game rules intentionally is the very definition of cheating.

Mandatory trigger is not a decision. It's not a choice to be made. It has to be done.

This is where we disagree

They are breaking the game rules not me. I have no action to take otherwise I may as well just play the game saints myself

 

Well, I would disagree. If it is required and you notice it, you are technically obligated to keep the correct game state as per the gamesmanship maturity rules in the tournament doc.  If you are interested in playing correctly, you should say something.  Having said that, and as people have seen in actual tournaments, it is impossible to distinguish if you are intentionally ignoring the rules to gain an advantage, so the ultimate responsibility usually falls on the controlling player.  .    .

 

So, yes, you can gain an 'unfair' advantage by not saying anything but it is still wrong since it is required.  But we dont punish this player because it may have been an honest oversight... better to let a 'cheater' go then punish a new player or someone wrapped up in one's own strategy.  

 

Personally, I think all positive abilities should say 'may' to make this entire argument moot and force the controlling player to play optimally but that is not what is says unfortunately and clarified by the OP question to the designers.  

[Is Agent Blaise's Adapt a mandatory trigger?]

 

 

Cremate, that's a really good idea.

 

KennedyHawk, the problem is that if you're allowed to skip this mandatory trigger and have it not be cheating, how can you really argue that you're not allowed to skip any mandatory trigger your opponent will let you get away with?

 

The answer I got from the game designer, which I posted on page 1, says it is both players' responsibility for both positive and negative triggers.  If it's your responsibility and you don't follow it, then you're not following the rules.

Both players are responsible for Adapt, Last Stand, Vengeance, Relentless, and other mandatory triggers.

 

I know you don't want to be responsible for making sure your opponent follows the mandatory Adapt trigger, but you are.  It should carry the same weight as any other mandatory rule in the game.  Just because it is on your opponent's card and helps your opponent does not matter.

Because there are a lot of command cards (> 100?) and text in the game and shocker, maybe not everyone has every detail minute detail memorized and can recall everything at any given time in a pressure stressful environment.  Seems reasonable that the person who brings the list has slightly more responsibility to make sure it is played without missing triggers since the player actually brought the list and had time to prep, read, plan and heck write it down.  I played in a tourney and forgot most the whole day to play my elite stormtrooper focus ability.  Would I would say my opponents were 1/2 as responsible for letting me forget this?  No it is my error, as I was not prepared and it cost me; I needed practice and was playing the elites for the first time.  Failure to properly plan and practice and familiarize yourself with your own list should be tactically punished by not playing optimally.            

 

You're mistaking playing optimally with playing correctly.

Last Stand is not an optional ability.  When an elite stormtrooper dies, another in the squad becomes focused.  Period.  That is just what elite stormtroopers do when they die.

 

You're suggesting it is okay to let your opponent miss the Last Stand trigger.  It is not okay to do that, because that is breaking the rules. 

 

There is nothing that says this is somehow less mandatory than other rule in the game just because it benefits your opponent.

You can't keep initiative unless your opponent remembers to take it.  You can't attack with your stunned guy unless your opponent reminds you he is stunned.  You can't make impossible line of sight attacks unless your opponent calls you out on it.

 

Similarly, you can't ignore Last Stand unless your opponent remembers to apply it.

 

At a high competitive level of play, just because something is on your opponent's card does not mean you are free to ignore it if your opponent doesn't remember it.

 

 I am suggesting it is okay to let your opponent miss last stand?  Where?  I think you are missing the intent part verses a missed trigger due to an error.  Everyone already agrees mal-intent (letting missed trigger, ignoring etc.) is wrong and we get that.  You keep answering the same question we already know.  

 

Moving on, if a triggered is simply missed due to error then what?  That is the more interesting question.  Some say it is impossible to distinguish between the two absent a mind reader so is there much one can do?       

[Testing Dice - Or, do my dice really hate me]

"All he is trying trying to say is without empirical data to show a relationship between your good dice and bad,"

 

How about 100+ years of testing and making dice for casinos back up his findings about balance testing the dice?? A spin balancer will come up with the same data as his water test.

its a tried and proven way of testing dice. granted you can't tell from the test how bad the die is off but it does tell you its off.

and in a Game with money or prizes riding on it that is all that should matter.

 

Now if you want % of badness you need to do the 100 or 1000 rolls test. or use a computer spin balancer.

Humm I hope people can see Vegas is a tad bit different then a table top miniature game.  I am sure there are much higher tolerances and much more regulation then the plastic FFG uses.  If FFG thought it would be a problem, I am sure they would have higher tolerances, but they dont so this should be a clue to significance of slightly off die to the game.  Maybe is is simple not worth the extra cost to make the 99% of produced die perform statistically correct at 1/10000 level vs 1/1000 level.  We are taking about statistics and results being skewed from expected results.   

 

Some shocker, some die are not perfect, so what?

 

Does this affect the odds in 1/10 die rolls for an extra blank on black? or

1/100?

1/1,000?

1/10,000?

1/1,000,000

 

Makes a bit of a difference dont you think rather then simply showing the die are not perfect.  Suggesting your testing would have practical relevance to your results would be inaccurate without the data.  You may confuse or alarm people needlessly.    

[Testing Dice - Or, do my dice really hate me]

 

 

 

He's not rolling the dice, he's checking the weight distribution.  If he was rolling the dice he'd roll them on a table thousands of times.  He's checking the weight by floating the die.  If the die is heavier on one side (more likely to be on the bottom) that side will roll to the bottom of a floating die.

An unbalanced die will have a tendency, however small, to roll with the heavy side on the bottom, which can skew dice results significantly.

 

Oh really, can skew dice results significantly?  I'll repeat,

 

"Without any performance data, there is not enough to be concerned about your results. "

[Is Agent Blaise's Adapt a mandatory trigger?]

Cremate, that's a really good idea.

 

KennedyHawk, the problem is that if you're allowed to skip this mandatory trigger and have it not be cheating, how can you really argue that you're not allowed to skip any mandatory trigger your opponent will let you get away with?

 

The answer I got from the game designer, which I posted on page 1, says it is both players' responsibility for both positive and negative triggers.  If it's your responsibility and you don't follow it, then you're not following the rules.

Both players are responsible for Adapt, Last Stand, Vengeance, Relentless, and other mandatory triggers.

 

I know you don't want to be responsible for making sure your opponent follows the mandatory Adapt trigger, but you are.  It should carry the same weight as any other mandatory rule in the game.  Just because it is on your opponent's card and helps your opponent does not matter.

Because there are a lot of command cards (> 100?) and text in the game and shocker, maybe not everyone has every detail minute detail memorized and can recall everything at any given time in a pressure stressful environment.  Seems reasonable that the person who brings the list has slightly more responsibility to make sure it is played without missing triggers since the player actually brought the list and had time to prep, read, plan and heck write it down.  I played in a tourney and forgot most the whole day to play my elite stormtrooper focus ability.  Would I would say my opponents were 1/2 as responsible for letting me forget this?  No it is my error, as I was not prepared and it cost me; I needed practice and was playing the elites for the first time.  Failure to properly plan and practice and familiarize yourself with your own list should be tactically punished by not playing optimally.            

[Is Agent Blaise's Adapt a mandatory trigger?]

You are ignoring rules because you are responsible for mandatory triggers.

 

Feel free to submit another rules query.  I'd be curious if they say the same thing again.  I just double checked, the Paul Winchester forwarded it to their OrganizedPlay email, and they responded from that with the answer I posted on page 1.  The response was from 2/5/2016. I would hope FFG judges would be on the same page, but there's always the chance for mistakes.

 

As for how a TO should enforce the rules, I have no idea what kind of guidance they given official TOs on resolving conflicts where players don't follow the rules.

 

I would expect any guidance to be reflective of competitive tier.

At low levels, you should probably try to rewind as much as possible to follow the rules regardless of who gets some kind of advantage from having seen future events.

At high levels, you should rewind if reasonbly possible without giving away too much, otherwise the effect is missed.  Additionally, both players should probably get a warning of some kind.

 

Of course, this only matters if a judge has to get involved.  If both players can agree on a compromise, you should just go with that.  However, if the player for whom the mandatory trigger is negative insists that it should be missed completely with no consequences, I think a judge should definitely be called over to reduce the possibility of someone continuously getting away with skipping rules they don't like.

Ignoring rules is not the same from missing rules.  2 different concepts.  Ignoring rules explicitly implies intent. 

 

I am sure the mandatory stress from rebel captive in Xwing was ruled as a missed opportunity.  Basically, the same long discussion.  Of course, both players are responsible, no one is saying otherwise, but I would expect the player who brings Blaise would have a better grasp of how the character works and is familiar with him since he is on your list, so logic follows the player thus would have a greater responsibility to ensure it is played correctly think of it as a 60-40%.  

[Testing Dice - Or, do my dice really hate me]

Ok, so as was discussed in another thread, I have decided to start testing my Armada dice

 

Here is the methodology:

 

Materials:

1 - Dollar Store chip Bowl

2 - Cheap brand Epsom Salts (4kg)

3 - Many dice

 

Fill bowl with water, salt until die floats.

 

Now, put a die in the water and flick, spin and roll it at least 10 times and try to observe any tendency.

 

Edit: once a tendency was suggested, I held the die with that face to the bottom of the bowl. Bad dice would flip as they rose to show the prefered face, good dice rose straight up regardless of orientation. Several orientations while being held to the bottom were tried with each die and the difference between good dice and bad dice was immediately apparent.

 

So far I have tried 1 black die and something becomes quickly apparent:

 

In an 8 sided die, the "spin" tends to favour not 1 face, but 2 adjacent faces (the balance axis is like a rod through 2 pyramids joined at the base)

 

After testing 1 die (black) I have found it very clearly favours a pair of adjacent faces (one is a blank and one is a Hit/Crit) out of 10 spins of various descriptions, these 2 faces came out 7 times and a regular generic hit came out 3 times. Since we know a regular hit has a random chance of 50% and a Hit/Crit 25% and a Blank 25% this already points to a skew.

 

Second black die spins far more randomly and has a tendency to surface on a Point or Edge before settling on a face. the difference from die #1 is striking

 

Third black die is basically set to blank. You could just erase all the other faces for how often they come up

 

Black Dice:

 

8 out of 12 black dice presented as significantly random, 4 are clearly miss-weighted. It really isn't rocket science to see which ones are bad and good, when you see the bad dice do underwater acrobatics to present the light face while the good dice surface on a point before rotating to a final face.

 

Blue Dice:

Blue dice were utter garbage 3/12 are good. a majority of my blue dice are weighted towards crits (6) 2 weighted towards hits and 1 weighted towards accuracy. I guess this explains why I can't seem to buy blue acc when I need one from my ISD 1s. I literally have to go buy another pack of dice to play now because of this. Found one that was so aggressively weighted to one half that it sat upright in the water like a top. The half it was favouring was a 2hit/2crit, probably almost never see a natural accuracy on that thing.

 

Red Dice:

Well, I was hoping the blue die were an outlier, but it looks like my black dice were the oddballs. My reds are as bad as my blues. 3/12 good again. a full 5 out of 12 were weighted towards blanks, one of them notably aggressively, 3 of them quite heavily and one shared the weighting about half with a hit face. the other bad ones represented the other faces (1 crit, 1 hit, 1 2hit and 1 accuracy).

 

In conclusion I am extremely disappointed with the balance quality of these dice. out of 36 dice 14 are random. 38% of a product performs as it should...quite sub par

Not sure if your experiment has any relevance other then saying it is not perfectly balanced- we know the paint and die cut outs may change the symmetric properties.  Roll it a thousand times and record the results- that would be interesting and a natural progression of your experiment.  Will a slight mis-weight effect performance?  meh.  Without any performance data, there is not enough to be concerned about your results.  

[Is Agent Blaise's Adapt a mandatory trigger?]

But if it's unenforceable then what's the point?

 

Placing a mission token "On the figure's base" is also unenforceable. 

While the word of the law says it's cheating, you literally cannot ever punish an opponent for it. So why does it exist at all? It can't be classed as cheating if you can never prove it.

What you are saying basically translates to if I find a way to cheat that can't be proven I do not cheat. That's neat!

That's not exactly true.

What I'm saying is that it's impossible to punish someone for something that can't be proven. 

And what's worse, OP was suggesting that both players be punished for cheating when they simply forgot. 

 

I'm not advocating cheating. I'm just saying that a more lenient and common sense interpretation of the rules is better for everyone.   

There's a difference between bad sportsmanship and cheating too. 

 

Here's an interesting example from a Regionals match last weekend. 

My opponent had Luke standing next to my RGC. He did a saber strike and then performed a shot at the RGC. I was so excited that he didn't move away from me because I was holding Flurry of Blades and I had initiative next turn. I was already thinking about the next turn. I didn't even realize that he shouldn't have attacked twice until I got home later that evening. 

On one hand, it as pretty horrible cheating to attack twice. On the other hand I didn't pick up on it at the time, and on the third hand, his lack of movement allowed me to kill Luke with 3 attacks the following turn. I didn't even need all 3 attacks to kill Luke, and would have probably killed him anyway, but that doesn't matter.

So who cheated? He attacked twice for clear advantage, and I didn't notice which was to my benefit next turn.

We can't take it back because neither of us noticed till hours later. 

We can't nullify the result or replay it since the tournament is over. 

 

Another situation in a different game happened when my opponent declared the use of Reinforcements, he went and placed the figure before I even had a chance to say anything. I used Comm Disruption, to stop Reinforcements and he took his figure back off the board, and started his first activation. But in the confusion, and him subsequently starting his first activation rather quickly, I forgot to play my Reinforcements. 

When I asked a minute later he said no. 

Now, that's fair enough but it just shows how easy it can be to make mistakes, especially when someone already has a plan in their head and goes to carry it out very quickly. That's why I usually like to verbalize everything I'm doing (eg, "and now for my second action...."). 

 

What I'm trying to say is that 95% of the time, **** like that is just an accident. A mistake. It happens and it's not really fair to somehow magically punish one or both players for a honest mistake. 

Even more so when you simply can't prove malicious intent.

In your Luke/RGC example, you both broke the rules.  Obviously if a judge or someone saw it eariler, you could have tried to rewind game state. Potentially you would both get a warning at a high end event.

 

In the situation with Reinforcements, arguably the opponent was breaking the rules by using fast play to try to skip your chance to react.  By not saying "Do you have any start of round effects?" and continuing play, he is skipping your opportunity to make a move, which is explicitly against the tournament rules.

If I were you, I would have called the judge over in this scenario and argued my case for letting me play Reinforcements.

 

Even if you unintentionally break the rules, you still broke the rules. At the highest level of play, that is grounds for warnings/game loss.  The intent of giving warnings to players that do these things is that if you accumulate enough, you get ejected.  Normally, making random mistakes that you and your opponent can't fix together won't be enough to get a legitimate player in trouble.  For someone that is abusing the system though, that should be enough to trigger some flags that they're causing trouble.

 

None of this negates the objective fact that if you allow mandatory triggers to pass without them occurring, you are breaking the rules.

If you think it's okay to break the rules to your advantage by doing things like not telling your opponent to focus his elite stormtrooper or hide a unit with Adapt, well, I guess that's that.

Execpt that is not what the judge does, read the role of the judge In the tourney doc. The job is NOT to be sure all rules are applied correctly to all games at all times- it is simply impossible and unrealistic. The players are expected, especially in ffg, to play correctly and act mature to resolve disuptes and are in fact 'running the game'. The judge steps in when there is disagreement of the rules and resolve disputes.

[Someone break this silly combo]

My point is that "when attacking" and "when defending" are timing windows now, not simply the act of rolling dice.

When you spend a TL, R5K6 triggers. It doesnt wait until the attack is over, so it is dice rolled while attacking/while defending, depending how its used.

By the same token, receving a stress from Rebel Captive or stressbot triggers Porkens ability during the attack.

These are the dice rolled while attacking or while defending. If you have upgrades that can modify dice in those steps, you should be able to do so.

No, the R5K6 has to be resolved before you continue.  The 'evade' results does not persist for any other reason other than giving you a TL back.  Think of it as a mini side loop that is resolved before you continue.  

 

Porkins ability clearly is not during the attack, it is when you receive stress and not part of the attack steps.  Again it is only a mechanism to add chance for an ability to trigger.  Nothing more.     

[Expansions coming out too fast?]

Ha!  Play X-Wing and see which is more expensive!  I'm an idiot and play both!

 

TECHNICALLY...  we've only had 3 expansions, though we've had several ally/villain packs....

Ha^3 I also do xwing and Armada!

[Expansions coming out too fast?]

Compared to Magic The Gathering (largest community for any type of game), we're getting off cheap.

I disagree with the above statement. For sure, someone like you and me who wants to have everything (and a lot of two of something for the non uniques for double elite version possibilities in skirmish), I can understand that its a little pricey. But the cost of a Bespin Gambit set is approx. $100 MSRP ($40 + $10 + $10 + $10 + $26 [$13 x 2]) and that gives you EVERYTHING in that set. MtG latest expansion for 1 box at MSRP is $108 and that's not even getting you every card. A full complete set sells for $250...and that's not even 4 of each card, which would result in $1,000. So trust me, we're getting off cheap.

But just like MtG, you don't HAVE to buy everything, and that's just looking at the competitive side. You barely have to buy anything to play just for fun. But right now, you need Core + Hoth ($100 + $60) and that gives you a lot of competitive play already without even having to go the expansion pack way.

Plus the quicker things come out, the faster we get diversity. If you want to play casual, you are not forced to play anything and aren't required to have to get anything right now. You can get it whenever you want.

~D

MTG has a huge fanatical  following so they can get away with whatever they want price wise, but really Imperial assault I consider brand new and needs a little nurturing and not really a good comparison.  Maybe just my Denver area (example regionals attracted less people then the prior year), how is your guys observations on your local community?    

[Expansions coming out too fast?]

I agree, but FFG wants to get paid.  Look at Star Wars minis.  They kept releasing new character that would adversely affect the meta game and if you didn't have certain pieces, you couldn't be competitive.  I had a 12" x 12" box of bagged commons and uncommons. I think this is why they included characters like the inquisitor.  Not because it makes sense, but because it has board appeal and will move a lot of units. 

You right, the bottom line is what is the ultimate driver.  When I saw the inquisitor announced, I was confused (Couldnt they make a new box set in that time period with all of those characters?)  I know there are a lot of complaints on the Armada forums about the slow cycle and stagnation/ lack of diversity but that is much more manageable for now.  The slower cycle probably has more to do with infrastructure though and not by design.    

 

Diversity is always good, but I think when they release so many small packs separate (Really, no boba fett plastic in the twin shadows?), someone really needs to walk someone new through this process of what to get how to start up.  Just image if you are not part of the community boards!    

[Why can't I take notes?]

I was talking with my wife about this and her thought is if your playing someone and you write notes about them, how they play and react you could use that in a later round or at another torny, which would be not within the spirit of the game. Past that and slowing down the game via making people wait is an issue. Though now a different one arises if you have to look through a bunch of box inserts for ship movement inserts.

Also if FFG is taking pictures of tonrys For promoting don't think they want a bunch of random docs all over that are not FFG products or bi products. "Can't really promote something you don't own"

Here's the thing when a rule such as this is made, likely somewhere the developers got word of someone doing exactly this or abusing slow play.  They probably have a specific example(s) that showed someone getting an unfair advantage perhaps with sharing a 'scouting report/play style' with another player at a tournament and made this rule explicit.  

[New FAQ and map rotation announced]

 

Keeping score is not taking notes. They means writing actual notes- statements, maths, etc.

I'm not sure FFG would agree on that, given that they specifically say that you should maintain a "score pile."

 

I don't know that anyone would care if you're using scratch paper just to take score, but...

 

Wasn't the score pile in the 2015 worlds faq and it was obliviously done at the final table at worlds, so they didnt seem to disagree. 

[Someone break this silly combo]

 

Hey now, this isnt a genaral Norra thread, we'vego like 3 other threads for that.

 

How aboult something else with similar triggers?

 

Declare target, receve stress, remove stress, roll attack die for prkens damage, and reroll any actual damage.

Doesn't work that way. Predator only triggers when attacking. Porkins isn't attacking when rolling for his ability

 

Exactly, the rolling of the die has nothing to do with the attack, on a easy way to throwing chance into getting an ability, such as the scum cloaking device too.  

[Expansions coming out too fast?]

So, hear me out for a second, this applies to skirmish. This game was release late 2014 so we are not even 2 years out and the number of expansions are overwhelming, I count 30 now!  Of course, I collect everything, but I think this is really hurting the community.  In our area, the skirmish group has been shrinking, citing cost and too much to keep up with.  Just think, what will it look like in another 2 years, 60 expansions total?  I dont know how a new players could realistic not get overwhelmed to play 'competitively' against someone who has everything.  Of course, you can simply 'buy what you want' only, but you do need to know how all of the commands cards/characters work, or you can  be rolled over from simply not knowing the mechanics to being constantly surprise what people can do.  Just think, if your new to Netrunner, want to jump in competitively or feel a little intimated with the massive library of cards?  

 

Personally, a big library is always inevitable given enough time, but just  my preference is I like a slower release cycle.

[Someone break this silly combo]

Lets double down on the sillyness!

 

 

Pretty sure "modify Defence Dice" is still "While defending". so the droid would get flight instructor reroll as well.

Well, that me mechanic applies to prob. of getting a free tl, not defending so you at not adding a evade when you defend as you are not at the roll defense die step of an attack.

[Why can't I take notes?]

I always keep track of my opponent's list (shields, hull, crits, etc.) So I wouldn't have to slow down the game by constantly having to double check with the other player. This is a bad rule and unfair to many with learning disabilities and handicaps.

Unless your blind, all of that info is on the table available.

[New FAQ and map rotation announced]

how do you keep track of points without notes?  Keeping track and having a written record of all the objective or bonus points in a game is near impossible, especially with a time limit.  I think most of the tournament games I've played, it came down to the wire, if I didn't have a running tally going already, it would have been easy to lose track of points, or easy to have discrepancies at the very least.

Keeping score is not taking notes. They means writing actual notes- statements, maths, etc.

[Sigh.. three days of fubar Worlds sign ups. I tried.]

I think they should open up for one game at a time. Don't make the X-wing crowd and the Netrunner crowd fight over the server.

Seems to make sense, no rush right now why not stagger them?

[Sigh.. three days of fubar Worlds sign ups. I tried.]

Time to bit the bullet to satisfy the demand.  Take it down to Vegas in a mega convention hall even with a slight bump up in price.  After all, November in Minnesota or November in Vegas?

[FFG bring Jedi Starfighter to X-Wing.]

 

How could anybody say no to that beauty?  Look how pointy it is!

Didnt the R2 not even ft?