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  1. "Only YOU can face Vader." "That boy is our only hope" Blah, blah, blah, "chosen one," blah, "bring down the dark side," blah, blah, blah, "fulfill the prophecy" ... throughout the prequels. The very name RETURN OF THE JEDI for Episode VI. Look, like I typed to Daeglan, you also seem to be a good dude. So I'm fine at this point with agreeing to disagree. Plus, we have DS9 to watch (and work to pretend to do). Later!
  2. Look, you seem like a good dude (or lady?)... So we'll just have to agree to disagree. Cool? 😎
  3. I'm also watching DS9 on BBC while I'm working (or supposed to be working)! Ha. 😎 Anyway... We find out in a future episode that the Enterprise is indeed fighting the war. Its name is thrown out there with a few others like the Musashi or whatever. And the events of Insurrection (however terrible that film is) are indeed meant to occur within the Dominion War timeframe. As for the TNG cast not showing up for Worf's wedding? Well, that was a logistical issue obviously. The producers could have gotten Riker and LaForge (as Frakes and Burton were directing Trek at that point), but none of the others. So why bother? In animation, anything is possible. But that doesn't mean it should be possible.
  4. You're missing the point. If other Jedi are actively assisting the Rebellion? Then what makes Luke (and possibly Leia) the last hope for the galaxy? Why would Obi-Wan and Yoda lie in wait? Why would Episode VI be titled "Return of the Jedi?" If other Jedi are active in the years before Episode IV, then you've broken the core premise of the OT.
  5. The "mentor figure" is very different from the "active participant." Yoda, again, is integral to the premise; he, in no way, harms it. I wasn't aware the new Marvel comics were canonical. Ha. Marvel's publishing division is going down the toilet, as evidenced by sales figures and the fan blowback to agenda-driven storylines. So I, personally, would never use that material as back up. I mean, you're dealing with artists/activists working on material produced AFTER Rebels. As for Legends? Take your time. I'll admit I didn't read any of the novels taking place between Episodes III and IV, but I did read a bunch of the comics coming out during those Dark Horse days. I sincerely do not recall that many Jedi surviving Vader's purge other than Quin. (Although the propaganda angle is actually pretty clever. But even if we take that at face value, those Jedi who did survive, again, should have become nobodies. They should not have become active participants in the ongoing war against the Empire during Luke's formative years, and, like Vos, should have lived far away from the Jedi teachings.)
  6. And the problem I see is... If there are other Force users out there aiding the Rebellion - in this HUUUUUUUUUUGE galaxy - then why don't they take on Vader or Palpatine? Because that would break the prophecy that Luke is the galaxy's ONLY hope. (Yes, yes... Leia is "another.") Thus, the OT's core premise is ruined... ...again, if you happen to believe there are all these other Jedi out there doin' their thing!
  7. Other than Quinlan Vos? And maybe Rahm Kota (if you count Force Unleashed as canonical)? Who's out there? And even if there are other Jedi in hiding? They're clearly not involved with the Rebellion, Vader, or have anything to do with a prophecy. They've become "nobodies" after Order 66, and, as far as the Star Wars audience is concerned, they're going to remain nobodies ... at least until after Return of the Jedi. Kanan, Ezra, and Ahsoka, on the other hand, were out there "making a difference!" And interacting with, as I already pointed out, major players just one year before the events of Episode IV. Ugh. [EDITED to replace Shaak Ti - who was killed - with Rahm Kota. He survived the events of Force Unleashed, didn't he?]
  8. For episodic (and sometimes serialized) TV, yeah, I get it. For a serialized show that's part of a much larger universe that includes known "rules" and prophecies? No, your excuse/line-of-reasoning doesn't quite cut it. And how does Yoda break the premise?!? He's there to train and mentor the last hope for the galaxy. Yoda is integral to the premise, as is Obi-Wan.
  9. After Order 66, Quinlan Vos put aside the Jedi to raise a family and disappeared. We know Yoda and Obi-Wan went into hiding, waiting for the day the Skywalker twins would be ready. (Obi-Wan, of course, hung around Tatooine keeping watch on Luke.) Maul became a seldom-seen crime lord who used "lieutenants" to run his "businesses." And Vader and Palpatine ran the Empire. As someone else who watched all of the OT in theaters, I sincerely believe this is it. Yep, no other Jedi (or Sith) in existence. In my view, Vader and his troops did indeed hunt down and destroy all remaining Jedi, Jedi padawans, and known Force users throughout the known galaxy. ...leaving Luke (and possibly Leia) as the galaxy's only hope.
  10. I'll be honest and say I'm not too sure what happened with Ahsoka, but from what I understand? Ezra gets "lost in time" or something like that. Nevertheless, the kid is still supposed to be some kind of amazing Jedi-in-the-making and looked upon as some sort of future savior... Which, again, ruins the premise of the OT. I mean, of course Filoni had to clear the board for Episode IV. However, that does not mean he (and his team and possibly higher-up "suits" who might have mandated this stuff) made some boneheaded decisions along the way. The mere presence of so many Force users hanging around major players just one year(!) before the events of the first Star Wars film GREATLY lessens the uniqueness of the Skywalker prophecy and the ultimate return of the Jedi.
  11. Ohhhhhh,,,! OK, yeah, so Rebels straight-up ignored the premise of the OT that there was only one hope for the fall of the Empire - Luke Skywalker, the last of the Jedi. Obi-Wan and Yoda remained in hiding, knowing full well there would come a day when they would be called upon to train and mentor Luke (or, if that didn't work out, Leia). Prophecy and all that. Also, Tarkin remarks to Vader, "you are the last of that ancient religion; their fire has gone out of the galaxy." (I'm paraphrasing here.) So we're made aware the Jedi are extinct. But, again, there is Luke who is indeed trained and readied ... well, until he runs off half-cocked and gets a major wake-up call. But our future galactic savior escapes, trains some more, builds his own lightsaber, visits his mentors, and ultimately sets off to face his destiny of bringing down Vader and Palpatine. This marks the return of the Jedi to this galaxy. Luke is special. He is the last hope (other than his "another" brother sister). But... According to this new kids show? There are at least(!) three Jedi or Jedi padawans already hanging around the Rebellion, including this kid spitfire! And the lightsaber he builds also doubles as a stun blaster! And it turns out he's pretty amazing with the Force! Oh, and he's always going up against other Force wielders called The Spanish Inquisition who fly around on helicopter-lightsabers! And this boy and his circus troupe get to meet Force dogs/wolves/furry animals! And other Force animals! And all of this is taking place just a few years (to maybe one decade) before Luke's entrance... ...and, um, no. Rebels seems like a roleplaying group - three Jedi, a couple of badass soldiers, an even spunkier astromech than R2-D2, and a Mandalorian (natch!). But it does not feel like something that actually occurred between Episodes III and IV. Now, there might be moments of greatness such as Ahsoka facing Vader and Maul facing Obi-Wan. But Ahsoka really shouldn't be around during the OT. (Maul, of course, finally met his maker.) I'm sure there are a bunch of other things that irritate longtime fans like me that really shouldn't matter like B-Wings and TIE Defenders showing up that early or Thrawn being watered down for a children's series... But those items, while certainly bringing down the quality of Rebels, do not infringe on the core premise of the OT.
  12. Sorry. Guess I misunderstood your question. If you'd like to rephrase it? Or just add a bit of clarification? I'll do my best to respond.
  13. Would you think it would be tough to see over the R4 or R5 unit, specifically in one of The Clone Wars-style Jedi starfighters with the astromech plugged in directly in front of the pilot's cockpit? I'm with you in saying let the players use what droid they want... But, again, I'm just a bit concerned over the actual practicality of using the R4/R5 over the R2/R3. If I could find just one picture or one passage that shows astro droids other than R2 units being used, it sure would help ease my mind.
  14. From Mandalore of the Rings: "As I said above you can't say something is objectively bad when a) it's pretty subjective and b) you haven't even watched it. No one is forcing you to watch anything. Tell us your opinions on something else, or come back and join in when you've watched it." ...and... "It actually makes Rebels seem pretty good. Lots of people here like it except this one guy thinks it's crap, but then again he hasn't even watched it." There are multiple claims that I'm making blanket statements about objectivity. However, as I pointed out through the use of prior posts, I did state that art was still pretty much subjective. (I do believe, however, that from a critical standpoint I could make the case Rebels is indeed objectively bad ... using instances of narrative structure, characterization, tropes, cliches, animation quality, artistic decisions, internal consistency, and continuity within its shared universe.) Also, again, I did watch a full quarter of the show and then went on to watch handfuls of episodes from the remaining three seasons in order to give the series a chance. Yet people keep remarking that I didn't watch the show. Honestly, you know what might actually work against my seemingly "bold" assertion(s)? If someone were to actually lay out WHY and HOW Rebels got considerably better and better in subsequent seasons. I mean, it's telling that I have yet to see that kind of bulleted list come to fruition despite all of the complaining about my (alleged) offensive behavior... 🤔 Note: To be fair, many of you (maybe most of you?) have been very Cool Daddy-O regarding our disagreements. Please know it's appreciated. Oh, one more thing to consider... Think about Rebels. Now remove Ahsoka and Rex. What do you think of the series now? If your love of Rebels is based on either of these two characters from The Clone Wars, then maybe you're really just in love with The Clone Wars. *shrug*
  15. You were absolutely referring to me. P-47 called you on it. That's why I typed that post about my love of SW. And it's also absolutely relevant to discuss how you agree with another poster who believes there shouldn't be any more animated series (at least for a while) because most of them have been pretty bad. Yep, that's how this whole thing started. I agreed with Yaccarus and stated why I also found some of the animated series - specifically the two most recent, Rebels and Resistance - to be painful to watch. (I also shared my fond memories of Droids.)
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