That's exactly what i was trying to explain across the surprisingly overly negative forums, that for all we know, FFG might have a dedicated team working on more Journeys 2nd edition (since it sells so well) or a 3rd edition with new Overlord and random dungeon crawling mechanics.
Some are way too quick  to drop the ball. The game isn't even out and at this alarming rate, it will  be already dead - all stores stuck with countless copies that nobody wants , like Atari's E.T. in the 80s.
Might as well prepare another landfill in New Mexico to dump the boxes in, by the truck.
I want to play this very bad, and the whole three acts of it!

Agreed.
And also do not forget, this ain't Descent 3rd Edition. FFG specified in their article that Descent:LotD is a new line of games set into Terrinoth.
I am pretty certain they had a long discussion about the inclusion of an Overlord. Perhaps they left it to the already existing line of Descent games.

That's exactly what i was trying to explain across the surprisingly overly negative forums, that for all we know, FFG might have a dedicated team working on more Journeys 2nd edition (since it sells so well) or a 3rd edition with new Overlord and random dungeon crawling mechanics.
Some are way too quick  to drop the ball. The game isn't even out and at this alarming rate, it will  be already dead - all stores stuck with countless copies that nobody wants , like Atari's E.T. in the 80s.
Might as well prepare another landfill in New Mexico to dump the boxes in, by the truck.
I want to play this very bad, and the whole three acts of it!

For me, the printed layer of several Gloomhaven board pieces peeled off entirely, so i had to fix it with a glue stick. Apart from a few "bumps" and corners coming off once in a while, it looks okay now. I understand this is a kickstarter product and quality mishaps such as this can happen, especially with games of epic proportions such as Gloomhaven.
Not the end of the world but still, i never had that kind of problem with FFG tiles. Top quality, always. Also, boards rarely warp, if ever. I had plenty of warping with Gloomhaven and other KS products; perhaps warping caused the boards to get damaged in the first place, causing the integrity of the already fragile surface layer to be compromised because of humidity and overall temperature. I never had to worry about this with FFG products. I played Descent 2nd Edition many times, yet the board pieces are still holding strong.

Ok...
I never wished for any game to fail, even the Munchkin series and Cards Against Humanity which i both hate.
What about the way others like their games?
In what world should yours supersede mine, or others' ?

Ok...
I never wished for any game to fail, even the Munchkin series and Cards Against Humanity which i both hate.
What about the way others like their games?
In what world should yours supersede mine, or others' ?

Is it dead really, or because you want it so?
I'll take it with a grain of salt

You guys are killing the chicken within the egg, before it even hatched...
According  to all the negativity here and other posts, FFG should simply cancel the release of this game, declare bankruptcy and submit to their Kickstarter Overlords.
Kickstarter games also have their good deal of balance issues which i won't be debating here, but i am looking at you Sword & Sorcery!
After watching the Live stream and reading up the articles a few times, i can see several new, really interesting concepts such as crafting with numerous resources tracked within the app, unlocking random abilities to weapons and armor, giving it a Diablo feel. Also the mechanic of readying weapons, armor, skills and abilities with back to back, upgradable and interchangeable cards seem really clever.
Just how the app will be managing all of that while keeping the focus and balance on what's on the table is a challenge i know FFG can overcome. They did with JIME but i would have prefered dice, which is the case with Descent:LotD. Attack dice defined by your hero, but effects and damage across different weapons and abilities unlocked within the app. Very exciting - at least for me and hopefully, a few others.
I would wait for a little bit more before all of us get to punch the red button...

That's exactly what i was trying to explain across the surprisingly overly negative forums, that for all we know, FFG might have a dedicated team working on more Journeys 2nd edition (since it sells so well) or a 3rd edition with new Overlord and random dungeon crawling mechanics.
Some are way too quick  to drop the ball. The game isn't even out and at this alarming rate, it will  be already dead - all stores stuck with countless copies that nobody wants , like Atari's E.T. in the 80s.
Might as well prepare another landfill in New Mexico to dump the boxes in, by the truck.
I want to play this very bad, and the whole three acts of it!

https://youtu.be/tnZPwT6PH4M?t=4580
 
re 1 - The context of this is that the three acts are a whole complete entity rather than something which will have an unknown number of expansions for an unknown timespan- the three boxes are basically the complete campaign / story, a contained story of three acts.
 
This echoes the change discussed before where in a more crowded market they're thinking more of a planned range from the off rather than we may/ may not do expansions and not doing loads of expansions.
 
It could actually have quite a few benefits- maybe balance, avoiding pitfalls such as new things introduced not breaking earlier ones and imbalance bloat (expansions not planned from day one throwing in some unintended imbalance etc)
 
the 2. means there could be some things tacked on which could be alternative heroes to play, and of course they could do another contained story campaign series that is its own complete thing etc etc
 
It may also be hopeful for the 'journeys' branch of Descent, this could run its course then they might do more for that, but they could do anything else.
 
 

You guys are killing the chicken within the egg, before it even hatched...
According  to all the negativity here and other posts, FFG should simply cancel the release of this game, declare bankruptcy and submit to their Kickstarter Overlords.
Kickstarter games also have their good deal of balance issues which i won't be debating here, but i am looking at you Sword & Sorcery!
After watching the Live stream and reading up the articles a few times, i can see several new, really interesting concepts such as crafting with numerous resources tracked within the app, unlocking random abilities to weapons and armor, giving it a Diablo feel. Also the mechanic of readying weapons, armor, skills and abilities with back to back, upgradable and interchangeable cards seem really clever.
Just how the app will be managing all of that while keeping the focus and balance on what's on the table is a challenge i know FFG can overcome. They did with JIME but i would have prefered dice, which is the case with Descent:LotD. Attack dice defined by your hero, but effects and damage across different weapons and abilities unlocked within the app. Very exciting - at least for me and hopefully, a few others.
I would wait for a little bit more before all of us get to punch the red button...

You guys are killing the chicken within the egg, before it even hatched...
According  to all the negativity here and other posts, FFG should simply cancel the release of this game, declare bankruptcy and submit to their Kickstarter Overlords.
Kickstarter games also have their good deal of balance issues which i won't be debating here, but i am looking at you Sword & Sorcery!
After watching the Live stream and reading up the articles a few times, i can see several new, really interesting concepts such as crafting with numerous resources tracked within the app, unlocking random abilities to weapons and armor, giving it a Diablo feel. Also the mechanic of readying weapons, armor, skills and abilities with back to back, upgradable and interchangeable cards seem really clever.
Just how the app will be managing all of that while keeping the focus and balance on what's on the table is a challenge i know FFG can overcome. They did with JIME but i would have prefered dice, which is the case with Descent:LotD. Attack dice defined by your hero, but effects and damage across different weapons and abilities unlocked within the app. Very exciting - at least for me and hopefully, a few others.
I would wait for a little bit more before all of us get to punch the red button...

It looked good to me too. I am actually excited about having an app for this game. It certainly made Mansions of Madness 2e better. Crafting could be awesome.

You guys are killing the chicken within the egg, before it even hatched...
According  to all the negativity here and other posts, FFG should simply cancel the release of this game, declare bankruptcy and submit to their Kickstarter Overlords.
Kickstarter games also have their good deal of balance issues which i won't be debating here, but i am looking at you Sword & Sorcery!
After watching the Live stream and reading up the articles a few times, i can see several new, really interesting concepts such as crafting with numerous resources tracked within the app, unlocking random abilities to weapons and armor, giving it a Diablo feel. Also the mechanic of readying weapons, armor, skills and abilities with back to back, upgradable and interchangeable cards seem really clever.
Just how the app will be managing all of that while keeping the focus and balance on what's on the table is a challenge i know FFG can overcome. They did with JIME but i would have prefered dice, which is the case with Descent:LotD. Attack dice defined by your hero, but effects and damage across different weapons and abilities unlocked within the app. Very exciting - at least for me and hopefully, a few others.
I would wait for a little bit more before all of us get to punch the red button...

I really like your constructive criticism 😃
Are you aware? FFG said we'll also be able to interact with 3D terrain.
I also wonder how climbing up different levels of terrain will be brought.

I entirely agree with you.
I had the same problem with video games, so i can relate. I do tend to play video games less and less, replaced with board gaming time which i enjoy and get immersed into more.
Still, i never really felt like the use of an app like Road To Legend removed any of the magical feel into the game; i feel like it enhanced, or even brought a new interesting approach to it. The same magic i felt as a teenager while playing Advanced D&D (1st Ed) by myself with my own boundless imagination, the excitement of discovery after you tap a door and the app tells you to setup this tile and that tile, with this many monster and terrain features, plus a potential special event. Paper and cardboard can't come up with that except with some random card mechanic and thick adventure books who keep piling up as new expansions get released - though i admit,  i'd perfectly fine with that too. I did collect everything from Descent 1st and 2nd Ed and i DO enjoy the adventure books, cards and even the older, overly complex, brought out of the bat Road To Legend campaign system from 1st Ed with just too much stuff to keep track of! I am neither pro nor anti app driven games, as long as it is well integrated into the game, which seems to also be the case with Descent:LotD.
They obviously appear to have put a lot of effort into the development of this app and, from what i've heard in their recent Twitch stream, there will be good amount of side quests too! Plenty of things to do outside the main quest line, as they said. Also apparently, you'll have the ability to interact with 3D terrain, such as climbing trees, or topple a stone column on a monsters, or use it as a bridge over a gap!
Why not?
There are types of games, or mechanics which i don't enjoy such as card drafting or semi-coop games; Still, i accept them being on the market. You not enjoying it doesn't mean others don't.

Okay...
Sorry, but i just can't agree with you on any points here, though i understand it's mainly a matter of taste and personal opinion.
I think this is the future of boardgames and most people will really enjoy it, some others won't as much.
Just give it time will you? more will be revealed soon.
Personally, i find it all very exciting 😃

I entirely agree with you.
I had the same problem with video games, so i can relate. I do tend to play video games less and less, replaced with board gaming time which i enjoy and get immersed into more.
Still, i never really felt like the use of an app like Road To Legend removed any of the magical feel into the game; i feel like it enhanced, or even brought a new interesting approach to it. The same magic i felt as a teenager while playing Advanced D&D (1st Ed) by myself with my own boundless imagination, the excitement of discovery after you tap a door and the app tells you to setup this tile and that tile, with this many monster and terrain features, plus a potential special event. Paper and cardboard can't come up with that except with some random card mechanic and thick adventure books who keep piling up as new expansions get released - though i admit,  i'd perfectly fine with that too. I did collect everything from Descent 1st and 2nd Ed and i DO enjoy the adventure books, cards and even the older, overly complex, brought out of the bat Road To Legend campaign system from 1st Ed with just too much stuff to keep track of! I am neither pro nor anti app driven games, as long as it is well integrated into the game, which seems to also be the case with Descent:LotD.
They obviously appear to have put a lot of effort into the development of this app and, from what i've heard in their recent Twitch stream, there will be good amount of side quests too! Plenty of things to do outside the main quest line, as they said. Also apparently, you'll have the ability to interact with 3D terrain, such as climbing trees, or topple a stone column on a monsters, or use it as a bridge over a gap!
Why not?
There are types of games, or mechanics which i don't enjoy such as card drafting or semi-coop games; Still, i accept them being on the market. You not enjoying it doesn't mean others don't.

Okay...
Sorry, but i just can't agree with you on any points here, though i understand it's mainly a matter of taste and personal opinion.
I think this is the future of boardgames and most people will really enjoy it, some others won't as much.
Just give it time will you? more will be revealed soon.
Personally, i find it all very exciting 😃

Okay...
Sorry, but i just can't agree with you on any points here, though i understand it's mainly a matter of taste and personal opinion.
I think this is the future of boardgames and most people will really enjoy it, some others won't as much.
Just give it time will you? more will be revealed soon.
Personally, i find it all very exciting 😃

One company is not the whole hobby.. I mean if you are disillusioned fair enough, there's a big world out there and plenty of other hobbies to get involved in...
My experience in tabletop gaming is that its never been as good... Kickstarter has injected life into board games and tabletop gaming that I wouldn't have dreamed of just 15 years ago.. Kickstarter has its quirks and many issues but what its done for the tabletop gaming industry is revolutionary... Games coming out have never been as good, as detailed and as niche... even 10 years ago everyone was pushing for streamlined simple fast games, then Kingdom Death Dropped and my prayers were answered, its gritty, its deep and its so over produced I was in love.. but its $400 board game that would never be a viable sell to a retailer prior to its success... now we have tons of campaign games but everything is fully co-op, and at some point someones going to jump on a produce something that's one verses many or co-op supported that blows the competition away by its flexability... its not if its when.. and thats exciting.. Even in the Covid age, board games and hobby games sales are at all time highs, its recession proof or resistent and its a fantastic time for long time hobbyists like myself, though I'm buying what I can now in case the market changes and the options disappear, so I've got a back log of amazing titles.. which if the market doesn't disappear could be a problem but its a good problem to have....

I entirely agree with you.
I had the same problem with video games, so i can relate. I do tend to play video games less and less, replaced with board gaming time which i enjoy and get immersed into more.
Still, i never really felt like the use of an app like Road To Legend removed any of the magical feel into the game; i feel like it enhanced, or even brought a new interesting approach to it. The same magic i felt as a teenager while playing Advanced D&D (1st Ed) by myself with my own boundless imagination, the excitement of discovery after you tap a door and the app tells you to setup this tile and that tile, with this many monster and terrain features, plus a potential special event. Paper and cardboard can't come up with that except with some random card mechanic and thick adventure books who keep piling up as new expansions get released - though i admit,  i'd perfectly fine with that too. I did collect everything from Descent 1st and 2nd Ed and i DO enjoy the adventure books, cards and even the older, overly complex, brought out of the bat Road To Legend campaign system from 1st Ed with just too much stuff to keep track of! I am neither pro nor anti app driven games, as long as it is well integrated into the game, which seems to also be the case with Descent:LotD.
They obviously appear to have put a lot of effort into the development of this app and, from what i've heard in their recent Twitch stream, there will be good amount of side quests too! Plenty of things to do outside the main quest line, as they said. Also apparently, you'll have the ability to interact with 3D terrain, such as climbing trees, or topple a stone column on a monsters, or use it as a bridge over a gap!
Why not?
There are types of games, or mechanics which i don't enjoy such as card drafting or semi-coop games; Still, i accept them being on the market. You not enjoying it doesn't mean others don't.

Okay...
Sorry, but i just can't agree with you on any points here, though i understand it's mainly a matter of taste and personal opinion.
I think this is the future of boardgames and most people will really enjoy it, some others won't as much.
Just give it time will you? more will be revealed soon.
Personally, i find it all very exciting 😃

Okay...
Sorry, but i just can't agree with you on any points here, though i understand it's mainly a matter of taste and personal opinion.
I think this is the future of boardgames and most people will really enjoy it, some others won't as much.
Just give it time will you? more will be revealed soon.
Personally, i find it all very exciting 😃

I can understand 😃
It is still a big shock to us all, good or bad!