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  1. There's something I wanted to bring up in regards to the rotated B-Wing, but sat back to see if anybody brought it up which nobody did. The rotated B-Wing occupies a different amount of space than the standard vertical model. It is in fact extending beyond the base where it normally would. In this game where you have miniatures moving very close together, who hasn't had plenty of collisions with their hands vs models as they try to move something along a maneuver template path? When you have a ship with an altered shape or orientation you now have a ship that can possibly adversely affect the micro-orientation of the ships on the field. What if a player constantly has his angled B-Wing moving in to other ships "Oh, I have Advanced sensors so I can do an action first, now I move, oops my model touched yours, let me move it slightly back to the position it was in, oh look, it's now inside this firing arc, that's weird, oh well!" To me this is my biggest problem with ship modifications in a tournament. It is altered from it's original shape / orientation in a way that was not intended by FFG when they had the mold printed. And minute changes can make big differences. I have seen many players use laser guides to determine if a ship is in or out of a firing arc, I myself make use of a tool. And a slight change could push just that little bit of a base's corner into an arc, with a "Ooops, sorry I nudged it a little let me put it back where I thought it was" action. I should say that ships with broken pieces would actually occupy less space, and ships are often mismolded or bent right out of a box, and that should be forgiven But I think it is a personal contradiction to say that "A is okay but B is not" if both scenarios violate the same rule, which is an alteration to the physical size or shape of a ship, then both scenarios should be equally reported, and again, up to the TO's discretion. With that out of the way... Yes, my intent in calling a TO over absolutely is to get your equipment scrutinized, and if you get disqualified then that is just fine with me. I would have to concede that there is really no reason for me to call a TO over if that is not a desired outcome. However, I would absolutely not do this in the middle of a game, to me that is a very disingenuous act as I would offer my opponent the same respect that I expect. I would raise this concern before play began. (I have been at tournaments where suddenly, mid-game, people call a TO over for a perceived disqualifying violation in an attempt to win over their opponent, and I am not a fan of that behavior). I know people are going to pass judgment on me and say that I'm a particular type of person. But I feel that if a person shows up to a tournament, flagrantly violating rules that I am obeying and that others are obeying, and is not prepared to have a backup option when they are called on that violation, then that person has already shown a lack of respect for others in the community and the tournament, and is no longer due kind consideration. I am aware of what people think that makes me, but those that think that, I think cannot see both sides of an issue. I came to a tournament to win. I have been in quite a few (besides just Xwing tournaments), and I have too often seen kindness treated as weakness and people lose because of it. I believe that if I am following the rules at a tournament, then others should as well, and people circumventing those rules, in any shape or form, are showing disrespect to the others around them that do. And that is a person that I do not think belongs in the tournament, I will submit my complaint, I will not pursue a campaign against them, even if the rest of the tournament they continue to harass me because I believed that they were violating the rules and the TO said they did not.
  2. Another inference. I chose to highlight what I felt was best representative of your discussion. It is not all I got from it.
  3. This little attitude right here: That is why I would go directly to a TO. Because people become very defensive when confronted by someone they do not perceive to have the authority to affect them. I would absolutely go to the TO first. If they are breaking a rule, the people who adjudicate those rules should be notified. Your manners are not my manners. Because for me, it's bad manners to show up flagrantly violating tournament rules. But go ahead and keep making inferences about the kind of person I am, I'm not here to talk about my character, again I'm just pointing to what the rules say. I "fly casual" when I'm playing with friends. When I'm in a tournament I "fly to win". Whatever tournament I'm in. I'm not putting time and money down to walk in and go "ho hum, aw shucks let's all hug it out."
  4. You have a lot of things to say about me and insults to infer without knowing me at all. A ship with broken wings and bits is technically under that rule bit. So, yes, I would bring it up and let the TO decide. Why are people showing up to tournaments with broken bits? Would a golfer show up to a tournament with busted clubs? And I'm still not sure how playing by the rules makes me a bad guy. And, CJKeys, you realize you are claiming I'm copy pasta to suit my needs but you just showed the same rules I showed... http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/131046-have-you-ever-seen-a-converted-shup-actually-get-banned-from-competitive-play/page-3#entry1396990 That's my post, unedited, you posted the exact same rules I posted, how am I "copy pasting to (suit) (my) needs"? So, what is a shape modification? Is the shape of the ship modified when the angle is changed from the original position? I think it is, I think the shape of how the ship occupies physical space has been altered. But that's my interpretation, and I'd again let a TO decide. Again, I do not understand why I am being vilified because I am adhering to the rules, or why you want to imply that it means something that "isn't flattering".
  5. Going through life hoping everyone else is going to be pleasant is naive. And I doubt I'll be asked to leave a tournament for abiding by the rules. But hey, let's bend the rules. Modified ships, sure why not. It's close to what the original looks like. Hey, I have a 105 point ship list for a 100 point tournament, 105 points is pretty close to 100, so that's fine, right? Hey B is in the alphabet with Z, so they're pretty close, I'll use a B Wing's card but pay Z wing points for it. You are trying to make me look like a villain for respecting the rules. If the rules mentioned modified ships were okay then I would have no problem respecting that as well. And time and time again I have said that I abide by letting the TO decide as the rules say. I can have fun playing, but my fun is hampered when people flout the rules that I am playing by, the standardized rules for the tournaments. Are you really fine with watching someone disregard rules and win?
  6. Here's what the rules say: Yes, I absolutely would bring this up to a TO based on both that B Wing and E Wing that you showed me. I would point out the rule that asks for a component to have a replacement, then whatever the TO says I'll abide. These are the rules for the tournaments, players should abide by the rules. If I came in breaking a rule like that I should expect someone else would do the same for me. I don't want to lose to someone who got an exception because "meh". Because when you start bending one rule, you start bending others, then none of the rules mean anything. What would you do if you noticed someone with a slightly damaged model? I know I've seen my share of bent/broken lasers, cracked/flaked resin, etc. and sometimes it just doesn't seem worth it to bother FFG for a replacement. But technically those models would be "modified". Couldn't disagree with your general philosophy more, btw. You've never crossed an empty street against the light? Had a beer before your 18th/19th/21st? How about attack the argument instead of the person? All I'm doing is pointing to the rules. Upper gun is removed and replaced with an exposed astromech. Which, according to the rules is expressly forbidden. Which I would bring up to the TO, and let the TO decide.
  7. Casual play is friendly. People don't enter a tournament to have laughs and giggles, they are entering to win. People spend time and money for that chance. Painting is not the issue, ship modifications are. The rules say modifications that alter the physical shape or size are not allowed. The rules say the TO has final say. I will bring it up to the TO, mention the rules, and allow the TO to decide. If someone wants to concede the match or the tournament because their opponent had a problem with the way they were bending the rules, then that's fine with me and everyone else there, I guarantee it.
  8. Here's what the rules say: Yes, I absolutely would bring this up to a TO based on both that B Wing and E Wing that you showed me. I would point out the rule that asks for a component to have a replacement, then whatever the TO says I'll abide. These are the rules for the tournaments, players should abide by the rules. If I came in breaking a rule like that I should expect someone else would do the same for me. I don't want to lose to someone who got an exception because "meh". Because when you start bending one rule, you start bending others, then none of the rules mean anything.
  9. I would be that guy... The rules are rules, when exceptions start getting handed out the rules no longer mean anything.
  10. O_0 You should not, you really should not. Medieval Medicine went away for so many good reason.
  11. I know Chewbacca and Lando YT1300 lists were popular within the last year. I remember a tournament I played in June, I think the guy running that list came in first at the store. A good list is only part of the equation. IMO, Xwing is like, 1/3 List Strength, 1/3 Player Knowledge/Skill and 1/3 Dice Karma.
  12. I came up with a pretty similar list, wondering what all the Dash and Corran hubbub was about. I took Experimental Interface instead, with the idea that Dash could perform an action bar action, then EI with Lando to grab a couple of bonus tokens. (I ran Kyle Katarn with Lando as a crew member, and loved it! So many bonus focus tokens, but would have preferred a few more evades XD ) I put Stay on Target on Corran Horn and R2 Unit, swapping your Fire Control System with Advanced Sensors, with the idea that when it matters, Corran can keep on an enemy to shoot and can easily destress in the next round. I also like the idea of advanced sensors allowing you an action before Stay on Target assigns stress. Interested to see how your list does though. I haven't had the chance to play this one yet.
  13. Stuff like that makes Wedge a prime target. Which is why you'll see people fly a Biggs right next to him, to give your big guns more time to shoot.
  14. I'm sure the rules forbidding physical alterations are in place to minimize the problems with handling the ships. As it is, ships often collide because their models touch and not their bases. The restriction on physical alterations is likely to cut down on that issue at a table, as well as banning "proxy" items. What if someone wants to make their own knockoffs? I'm sure FFG would much rather they buy an official product.
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