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Hello, I have a tournament soon and I cannot decide which of these two lists to play. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
VSD II - Screed, Chiraneau, Flight Controllers, Expanded Bays, XX-9, Corruptor
Glad I - ACM, Demolisher
Soontir Fel
Major Rhymer
Darth Vader
1x TIE Adv
2x TIE Bomber
Precision Strike, Hyperspace Assault, Superior Positions
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Glad 1 - ACM, Engine Techs
Glad 1 - ACM, Engine Techs, Demolisher
Glad 1 - ACM, Engine Techs, Insidious, Screed
Howlrunner
4x TIE Fighter
Opening Salvo, Fleet Ambush, Superior Positions
(I am tempted to drop engine techs from the non-titled Gladiator and grab an extra TIE, or possibly upgrade 2 TIEs to Advs)
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Here is a wave 4 tournament list that does well against phantoms, and against falcons. Initially I was looking for an imperial based list revolving around a firespray with a mini swarm, but I found that the humble y wing fills the role of the phantom counter better than the firespray. So I tinkered with some builds I found online and ended up with a build that Theorist posted on Team Covenant which was 2 adv sensor, hlc, engine upgraded b wings and an engine upgraded, ion turret y wing. It flew very well against falcon lists as expected, and i went about 50/50 vs phantom lists. My issue was if the phantom player target prioritized well the y wing could be dead before it can get a shot on a phantom due to it being a gold squadron pilot. So I considered my options (specifically the same list with roark instead of a y wing), but I felt it came up short due to the fact that low ps pilots just aren't that good at repositioning. Anyways here is what I came up with:
Horton Salm- R2D6
- Veteran Instincts
- Ion Cannon Turret
- Flechette Torpedos
- Engine Upgrade
Airen Cracken
- Ion Pulse Missile
- Veteran Instincts
Tala Squadron Pilot (x3)
So let me know what you think! If someone has already posted this please let me know as I don't want to steal anyone's thunder... I am fairly locked in to the Horton and Airen, but I am unsure about my upgrade choices, specifically taking Talas over Bandits and an engine on Airen (Horton wouldn't get torps).
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I honestly don't play Rebels ever, but upon purchasing an Ewing to ease my OCD completionist side I realized that Etahn would be absolutely deadly in my local area in the escalation format. I have a tournament with some pretty excellent prize payouts coming up (Tantives, transports, etc.) and I really want to come up with a optimized anti-meta list.
So to begin here is the local meta for escalation as far as I can tell from seeing people playtest recently.
1) Swarms (they are pretty great in escalation)
2) Phantom (usually echo with some upgrades) and an interceptor (I think) @ 60
3) Elite Falcon builds with some small ship support
4) Bounty Hunters (didn't get a good look at the couple guys running these as they were only playing 60 points, but they both had Rebel Captives
5) Elite Xwing builds
So here is what I have come up with after reading some posts on these forums and a few blogs.
----------Imperial List----------(Found this list in the Escalation Compendium thread and I can't really find anything to tweak)
60
Whisper - Recon Specialist, Sensor Jammer, Advaced Cloaking Device, Veteran Instincts
Academy Pilot
56/60
90
Whisper - Recon Specialist, Sensor Jammer, Advaced Cloaking Device, Veteran Instincts
Academy Pilot
Bounty Hunter
89/90
120
Whisper - Recon Specialist, Sensor Jammer, Advaced Cloaking Device, Veteran Instincts
Academy Pilot
Bounty Hunter - Ion Cannon, Tactician
Backstabber
110/120
150
Whisper - Recon Specialist, Sensor Jammer, Advaced Cloaking Device, Veteran Instincts
Academy Pilot
Bounty Hunter - Ion Cannon, Tactician
Backstabber
Bounty Hunter - Ion Cannon, Rebel Captive
149/150
The only thing I can see possibly changing is swapping out Backstabber for an Academy Pilot and 2 Seismic Charges to get a bit more control and some anti swarm, I really don't think that there is a right answer here, but it will come down to who my opponent is!
The idea is Whisper is a huge pain in the backside to kill. 60 points the Academy Pilot is the obvious target just to try to pin down Whisper. My only real hard counters here are those Bounty Hunters with Rebel Captives and perhaps a Han + Gunner build, but I think that Whisper should take out an elite falcon pretty easily if the dice gods don't decide otherwise. After this it is just a matter of making juicy targets that can take down Whisper's hard counters.
----------Rebel List----------
Build based on Etahn's ability
60
Blue Squadron Pilot - HLC
Blue Squadron Pilot - HLC
58/60
90
Blue Squadron Pilot - HLC
Blue Squadron Pilot - HLC
Etahn A'baht
90/90
120
Blue Squadron Pilot - HLC
Blue Squadron Pilot - HLC
Etahn A'baht
Kyle Katarn - Blaster Turret, Moldy Crow
118/120
150
Blue Squadron Pilot - HLC
Blue Squadron Pilot - HLC
Etahn A'baht
Kyle Katarn - Blaster Turret, Moldy Crow, Recon Specialist
Blue Squadron Pilot - HLC
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I won a tournament (4-0) with this a couple of weeks ago.
Round 1 (56 Points)
Whisper//Veteran Instincts/Recon Specialist/ Sensor Jammer/Advanced Cloaking Device
Academy Pilot
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Round 2 (89 points)
Whisper//Veteran Instincts/Recon Specialist/ Sensor Jammer/Advanced Cloaking Device
Bounty Hunter
Academy Pilot
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Round 3 (110 Points)
Whisper//Veteran Instincts/Recon Specialist/ Sensor Jammer/Advanced Cloaking Device
Backstabber
Bounty Hunter//Ion Cannon/Tactician
Academy Pilot
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Round 4 (149 Points)
Whisper//Veteran Instincts/Recon Specialist/ Sensor Jammer/Advanced Cloaking Device
Backstabber
Bounty Hunter//Ion Cannon/Tactician
Bounty Hunter//Ion Cannon/Rebel Captive
Academy Pilot
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Something I am playing around with is swapping Backstabber out for an Academy Pilot and grabbing Seismic Charges on the Firesprays. This would add a bit more control, but I am not sure if it makes up for losing Backstabbber. Thoughts?
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Here is a squad idea I have been mulling around in my head since yesterday when I got Imp Aces. Please let me know if there is anything I could tweak.
Royal Guard Pilot - PTL, Royal Guard TIE, Shield and Hull Upgrades (32)
Omni - HLC, Rebel Captive, Intel Agent (32)
3x AP (36)
100 pts
What's your local Meta like?
Oh, and definitely drop the Shield upgrade from the Interceptor to give your Omicron an Engine Upgrade. Dude friggen NEEDS it.
My local meta has a lot of 4X, XXBB, and Falcon lists. I didn't even think to throw that on the shuttle I'll try it out thanks!
What if I dropped the Hull and the Intel Agent instead of the Shield? I have found that if I play a flanking Interceptor list like this he takes a crit far too often as the first hit.
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Here is a squad idea I have been mulling around in my head since yesterday when I got Imp Aces. Please let me know if there is anything I could tweak.
Royal Guard Pilot - PTL, Royal Guard TIE, Shield and Hull Upgrades (32)
Omni - HLC, Rebel Captive, Intel Agent (32)
3x AP (36)
100 pts

Viable rebel fleets without assault frigate
in Star Wars: Armada Fleet Builds
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I have found 3 Nebulons with a Corvette and a couple b-wings to work well.