z0m4d
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It's a fad.
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They must travel farther due to their large base, making it easy for small base opponents to tail unless you can outwit them. A turret that can be shot at is a wasted turret.
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You do realize that smart turret play means staying out of other ships' firing arcs, right? (Hint: so they can't fire on you.) I don't know where people got the idea that just because you have 360 degree firing that you suddenly get to disregard flying altogether. It's nonsense.
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I like how you linked to the very thing that was quoted as a bad example of death star turbolasers...
I didn't see that. Why are they a bad example?
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I wouldn't mind them selling a decent death star mat (one that doesn't hurt your eyes and brain like the GF9 one) and a pack of well made turbolaser turrets with official rule cards
I imagine if the FFG X-wing mat sells well then i have no doubt that a death star surface will be next.
Hopefully they will make a nice turret box set too
http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=287&CategoryID=13170&PageIndex=3
Scroll down to Space Station Lasers, a GF9 Battlefield in a Box.
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Fat Turrets are not overpowered. They can be an advantage in a timed environment when MOV matters. Other than that, they're just an expensive ship that can die just like any other.
Jacob
I agree with this statement.
Fat Turrets are NOT overpowered. One single 3 (or 4 at range one/with Dash) dice 360 attack for 50+ points is not overpowered in any way, shape or form.
What they are, however, is forgiving. The 360 turret gives you so much freedom when choosing moves on your dial - you don't have to worry so much about getting an enemy ship in arc as you do about dodging theirs. And even if you can't manage to dodge your opponents arc (with a strong, fast dial and likely Engine Upgrade or Barrel Roll on Dash on top), you have a lot of hull to chew through and a couple of ways of mitigating damage.
Fat Turrets are not taken because they're overpowered. You can do a LOT more damage per turn with an equivalent number of points of small base ships than you can with a Fat Turret. Fat Turrets are taken because they're forgiving. Because they're less risky. Because in a competitive environment, you don't want to be one-shotted and you don't want to find yourself without a shot.
They're taken because they're a crutch.
That doesn't make them overpowered, it just makes them easy to use.
Stop making sense. We don't take kindly to that 'round here.
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He's not ranting because he said he's not.
no no, I'm ranting because you say I am. That makes much more sense.
I never said you're ranting.
He's not ranting because he said he's not.
you're batting real low on the whole constructive post thing, zom. please at least give the barest hint of effort if you're going to stick around
Turrets don't need coping. You need coping. Constructive.
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He's not ranting because he said he's not.
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A: I don't hate chocolate ice cream and don't think it's too popular, but I'm going to share with you reasons and ways to avoid it.
B: Not another chocolate ice cream hater.
A: I clearly stated I didn't hate chocolate ice cream or think it's too popular.
B: ...
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It's fairly implicit, which is why so many have railed, "Not again. Can we please just have one day off?"It can be assumed to be due to his stance, but he's at least offering solutions to it rather than claiming they're unbeatable.
The original poster writing to the effect of, "But I didn't actually SAY I hated turrets and think they're OP," is thinly veiled when it's obvious from the context.
dungeonfish reacted to this -
Ficklegreendice, you've defended and red planned yourself many times in this thread, and accused others of misunderstand your original post. Is it really all of them or only you?
Edit: phone auto correct; "red planned" should be "reexplained".
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You would need another modification slot for the ace pilots to be able to spend all the freed up points ...
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Why??
He's proposing this a Defender title not a modification
Because the Defender might not need it. No one should prejudge the Twin Ion Engines before we see the firsthand experience and impact to the meta.
ShakeZoola72 reacted to this -
Length by stretching plausibility. There may have been a New Yorker who brought a baby alligator home and then flushed it, but that doesn't mean there are alligators in the NYC sewers.
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Empire vs Empire or Rebel vs Rebel can't be avoided fairly in a tournament setting. Allowing anachronistic Separatists vs Rebel or Republic vs Empire is avoidable. It's too ridiculous for me.
The ARC-170 is an ugly flapping insect and the N-1 is is a glittering mosquito, but the avoidable absurdity would be too much for me.
The CEO stated his intentions not to include them. But if you think he's making a mistake because you happen like them, then by all means continue to believe he'll change his mind.
Separatists vs Rebel, Separatists vs Empire, Republic verus Rebels Republic vs Empire actually can be justified in story IMO, especially given that the game is still Legends material.
According to the Essential Guide to Warfare there were still Separatist holdout groups active during the OT era and while many of these stayed out of the Alliance's way and vice versa there was at least one sector where the GCW was a three way fight between the Empire, the Alliance, and the local Separatist holdout forces.
Republic verus Rebel could be explained as rebels operating in a low priority Imperial area which never received the newer ships. Imperial verus Republic could be explained as the Empire facing a rebel force which still has the older hardware. Where it would be a little more complicated would be a three or four way game with Rebellion, Empire, and Republic forces all facing each other but still not impossible to explain. The Republic ships could be from an independent resistance force that distrusts the Alliance enough to be willing to fight both Alliance and Empire. Perhaps they used to be part of the Alliance and feel it betrayed them somehow, most likely by not answering a call for help from the resistance force for some reason.
If you have to go to such great lengths to suspend my disbelief, you haven't.
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Empire vs Empire or Rebel vs Rebel can't be avoided fairly in a tournament setting. Allowing anachronistic Separatists vs Rebel or Republic vs Empire is avoidable. It's too ridiculous for me.
The ARC-170 is an ugly flapping insect and the N-1 is is a glittering mosquito, but the avoidable absurdity would be too much for me.
The CEO stated his intentions not to include them. But if you think he's making a mistake because you happen like them, then by all means continue to believe he'll change his mind.
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Empire Day? You realize the colonists rebelled when they signed the Declaration of Independence. So you have it backwards.
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So, for those reasons, among others, I think that expanding the number of factions is not just commercially inevitable for FFG, but also beneficial for the game. I hope it goes ahead, personally. Any other thoughts?Oh, and yes, I know it makes no narrative sense that, in this scenario, you could have Separatists vs First Order, or Republic vs Rebels. So what?No.
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More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward...
From CEO Christian Peterson: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/114870-no-prequel-ships-settled/
Vorpal Sword reacted to this -
Is it possible for someone to order a set if they happen to have more money than sense?
Certainly. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/treybert
Thanks. Each product is for just one die?
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Don't feed the troll.
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Surviving the Tyrancy of Turrets and Tricksy Dice
in X-Wing
Posted · Edited by z0m4d
You're glossing over that a tight turn on a large ship includes a large ship base. Small base ships can follow.
Focus fire with mutliples and kill. Or take its escorts and evade it the rest of the game. Back to basics stuff, man. You know this, you just don't like it, and you're confusing dislike with broken.