I don't own any I just wanted to put that out there. I'm weird like that.

Splig is the best!

This might be my game! Hope it has cool components like Descent. Looks like it does. Fast past! Whew hope its a sweet game.

Haha, I feel you! My group is the same and to be honest I do the same thing as well when playing as the heroes. Im almost thinking about trying to house rule some kind of time limit to keep the game sessions shorter 4vs1 campaign is the only way and the loooongest way to play it. D1 was longer then this one? Ouch!

I'll put what we played few weeks ago Base game: (LotW also) Wildlander Jain (she was fun) Disciple Avric (helpful) Berserker Grisban (slow)

Seems like the only way to play this game is the 4vs1 player campaign only. Why would anybody play just a one off quest? I don't seem the fun in that at all with this particular game.

I've never played 2vs1 but a friend of mine said heroes always seem behind. Is this true? If it is then I can see why you want something good at the start.

I'm guessing you we're in a hurry when you wrote that? What is your "excuse" Silverhelm? Lol. I agree with it though.

Whitewing? Edit: "I am your farther" been wanting to do that for awhile...Power Creep yeah bad,bad stuff we need to be careful it could be contagious. I typed that because I had the TIME to.

I disagree. Just because most of these players speak in hyperbole doesn't mean that it should be encouraged. If you follow actual game design professionals (particularly for big-league games), they'll say the same thing Whitewing says. Don't forget this is a forum. And not nearly as bad as some I've seen(Community wise). Most people here including me aren't typing or talking to the best of are abilities or even spell check. This is a game forum and nothing here is even all that important. If this was a resume' then people would CARE more. If you don't even care enough about the things you love or do as a hobby, then why should anyone take anything you ever do seriously? I try to make my posts legible and clear, and while I will readily state that my opinions are opinions and aren't always right, I do my best to argue my position in a way that others can know what I'm trying to actually say. Hyperbole runs counter to that notion, and is primarily a tool of rhetoric, which is counter productive. Obviously you care enough to come on here and spend a portion of your day reading others posts and commenting yourself. If you care enough to do that, why not care enough to make the discussion the best it can be with a small amount of additional effort? I wouldn't call it a hobby personally for me. After all I did give it away for free.

I disagree. Just because most of these players speak in hyperbole doesn't mean that it should be encouraged. If you follow actual game design professionals (particularly for big-league games), they'll say the same thing Whitewing says.Don't forget this is a forum. And not nearly as bad as some I've seen(Community wise). Most people here including me aren't typing or talking to the best of are abilities or even spell check. This is a game forum and nothing here is even all that important. If this was a resume' then people would CARE more. If you don't even care enough about the things you love or do as a hobby, then why should anyone take anything you ever do seriously? I try to make my posts legible and clear, and while I will readily state that my opinions are opinions and aren't always right, I do my best to argue my position in a way that others can know what I'm trying to actually say. Hyperbole runs counter to that notion, and is primarily a tool of rhetoric, which is counter productive. Obviously you care enough to come on here and spend a portion of your day reading others posts and commenting yourself. If you care enough to do that, why not care enough to make the discussion the best it can be with a small amount of additional effort? Policing people how they talk, or want to talk is ridiculous. You obviously understand what people are saying but your nit picking what you think "game breaking" means? That's all I REALLY see. It's not always about caring it's about time and time limits the amount of care involved or subject matter. Most people do more in there lives then a game (not saying you don't). If it takes less time to punctuate,spell check ect ect. And people are limited on time then that's what people are going to do. You can call it what you like but its what people do no matter the country. Speaking of country it could also be because of poor English skills. I see people on here trying to say what they got to say but I find it hard to understand because they are still learning the language. If you want to teach grammar a game forum isn't the place. Their not here to learn grammar they have something else going on in there life that is teaching them. In fact you could be unintentionally insulting them. Not everybody is from the same culture as you and you should respect that.

I disagree. Just because most of these players speak in hyperbole doesn't mean that it should be encouraged. If you follow actual game design professionals (particularly for big-league games), they'll say the same thing Whitewing says. Don't forget this is a forum. And not nearly as bad as some I've seen(Community wise). Most people here including me aren't typing or talking to the best of are abilities or even spell check. This is a game forum and nothing here is even all that important. If this was a resume' then people would CARE more.

You can lose every single quest up until the finale and you can still win the overall campaign[/u], so get over the fact that heroes have a decent Act 1 armor. There's still a whole act left to play, and your playing field is level. @plainwhitebread Don't even get me started on the "why" I don't like this game much. But I do like this part of your post. That part of your post describes the over all feel of the game well. Diablo race game where the end game is all that matters. In my opinion instead of a shop system they could of done something more interesting before the end game. Maybe explore to find gear instead. What's lurking around the corner is missing from about 90% of the game. 90% of the game should be exciting until the very end. Instead it's a diablo clone and a poor one. They should of stayed true to D1 but made it better,faster whatever their goal was in making D2. "But the game is not designed like that" well 90% or so of the game is a total drag and could of been designed better. All I see with this game is they took exploration out and replaced it with some horrible "tactical" (questionable) machanic. My friends don't even know I get on here and nit pick things but they know I don't like it much as long as they produce beer and chips I can tolerate it and get some laughs. Power creep is just a small problem that can get worse.

It should be hard to get not automatically acquired at the end of act 1. Either they need to take the rule go through act 1 items and pick and buy (after interlude)out. Or they need to make items like that act 2 only. What they mean by game breaker is you can acquire Runeplate after any act 1 campaign which is to powerful at that stage of the game. If heroes relied more on randomness of the deck then it would be ok. Edit: With that rule your just gaining a jump on the OL and it can only get worse with the amount of stuff they keep making for the game. 4 player game not a real big deal there is 3 others OL can deal with. 3 player, (which I've played) it's a problem and a game breaker. 2 player I see a problem there..

Tomorrow has arrived for you guys and gals.