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Whatever you do, for God's sake, don't listen to any advice from Geordan.
Listen to Jeff.
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Have a look at the X-Wing Tournament Rules; you'll find tables of recommended rounds of Swiss and top cuts for a given number of participants. (A quick rule of thumb is that you do about log2(n) rounds of Swiss for n players, e.g. for 16 players you'd do 4 rounds.)
Each round takes up to 75 minutes, and then there's usually 15 or so minutes between each round for the organizers to figure out who's paired up for the next round. If the tournament is large enough, there may be a food break in the middle.
After the Swiss rounds are done, a cut (if any) to single elimination happens. Up to 16 players there is no cut, so that's your best bet if you want to be done in 6 hours. Above that and you're looking at 8 rounds or more, if you make it all the way to the final table.ObiWonka and Vorpal Sword reacted to this -
If you say so? I mean, it's a pointless exercise to argue with someone who ignores counterpoints and is incapable of conceding anything.
If you're going to try to argue "facts" please back them up with, uh, facts.
That wasn't directed at you. You actually provided numbers, which is great! I apologize for not acknowledging the List Juggler numbers. I didn't say anything because I looked at it, went "aha" and continued. So I accept that point. (But I'll come back to that in a second.)
As for your other point, about Rebel Veterans - that's true! Good point! Maybe FFG is changing their practice going forward! But it doesn't change what has already happened with the Transport and Tantive. And as I have already said, Y-wings got some attention already in the form of BTL-A4 titles, Bomb Loadouts, and EPT astromechs.
But I could say likewise regarding the Interceptor, which got Royal Guard TIE in Imperial Aces and Autothrusters in
Most WantedWave 6 (it also helps A-wings, but boy did it help Fel more than anyone else -- Chiraneau/Fel dominated Regionals for a good long time). Y-wings and Interceptors both got boosts in the meta, and I don't think one was stronger than the other, looking at the tail end of Regionals and going into Nationals.If you want to continue believing that FFG doesn't prioritize Rebels over Imperials, then go ahead. I have nothing else to present to you.
All we both have at this point is conjecture. I don't know what goes on behind closed doors at FFG when they decide what to release next. (I mean, c'mon, no Assault Gunboat or Missile Boat?) I expect you don't either. I go with the simplest explanation: FFG comes up with something cool to put into the game, be it Rebel, Imperial, or Scum. I really don't think there's a Rebel-tilted agenda going on.
What we can do is make a prediction, which is what you sort of did in your hypothetical -- and we see that FFG doesn't always put the Rebel version of an expansion out first.
I don't consider "Actually, scratch that. Just to make your question invalid, I'm going to vote Scum!" to be logic nor reasoning.
I was trying to make a funny

(And honestly, Scum really could use an Aces pack.)
Regarding using List Juggler data: I was thinking about this one some more, and I don't think it conclusively tells us what the market wants in terms of factions. What we do know is: of the lists that were entered into tournaments that were entered into List Juggler, 46% were Rebel, 36% were Imperial, etc. The problem is that tournament play differs from casual play; I posit that in tournaments, people are more likely to fly a list that they think will win, and not necessarily of the faction they have a preference for. And if there is a prevailing perception that Rebels are stronger/more likely to do well in tournaments, you'll see more of them (the groupthink effect).
I'm not saying this is the only reason for the numbers. I'm saying that they're not conclusive enough for us to deduce what player preference really is. We have basically no data on casual/kitchen table games.
Edit: Most Wanted is not the name of Wave 6, yo
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Well, there clearly isn't any point in arguing further with you.
Okay. I guess you have way more invested in this than I do.
But you seem to be making the point that FFG would, on balance, release a Rebel expansion before its Imperial counterpart. However, FFG just announced Imperial Veterans which is not in response to a Rebel expansion; by your hypothesis, FFG would have released Rebel Veterans first.
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One subset of results in a set of facts does not make your numbers accurate.
I don't even know what this means
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I said the majority of nationals is won by rebels... Fact (just because you only looked at 2015 doesn't make this true)
Um, okay.
https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/110928-2014-nationals-results/
2014 Nationals
Rebels: 6
Empire: 7
Scum: Did not exist
Don't think we have 2013 nationals results.
If you're going to try to argue "facts" please back them up with, uh, facts.
Okay let me put it this way... let's say FFG only had time to develop one ship before Christmas 2016 and the counterpart ship would be released in 2017. Which would be first: Rebel or Imperial?
IMO they would almost certainly release a Rebel ship first. Or would they flip a coin?
I think they'd pick whatever ship would be cool.
(Actually, scratch that. Just to make your question invalid, I'm going to vote Scum!)
What I am saying is that Rebels get priority and more attention than Imperials (most likely due to the market's preference for that faction).
Where do you get the market's preference for Rebels? If anything, reading these forums makes me think the preference is largely (and quite vocally) for Imperials.
There really wasn't much flip to that coin..... lol
I think that was the joke.
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I was referring to Rebel Transport and Tantive releases before anything was developed for Imperials.
As Vanor pointed out, the Gozanti and Raider didn't exist at the time, but it still didn't mean they had to go ahead with two releases and new X-wing pilots.
That's my opinion at least.
I think that's looking for bias (or however you wish to word it) where there is none. The most likely reason is not some FFG execs twirling their mustaches at the thought of Imperial players crying, but rather the lack of canon Imperial ships in the 300 meter range. And X-wings were largely obsoleted with the release of the B-wing, so an X-wing pack-in with the transport probably seemed like a good idea at the time.
Should they have fixed an Imperial ship back then? Maybe. But I actually think the experience they've gained since then has actually paid off in the more recent expansions; consider that no one actually flies the X-wing pilots in Rebel Transport (really, the only card you see is R3-A2). Compare that to the pack-in TIE Advanced fixes in Raider, which brought back TIE Advanced in a huge way.
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Right, so I think I misused "bias." I wasn't implying that FFG wants Rebels to be stronger, but instead that Rebels have advantages like prioritized releases or broader selection of competitive ships (which I would argue have indirectly made them slightly stronger). I don't believe OP was implying the former either.
What do you mean by "prioritized releases"?
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Maybe the fact rebels have won every worlds since the first, most nationals and regionals and major jugglers stats show a clear rebel win percent. Which clearly shows rebels as a stronger faction.
Really?
Here's Major Juggler's stats for nationals: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/178660-2015-nationals-results
Here are the winner counts:
Rebels: 3
Empire: 4
Scum: 6
Please check your definitions for one or more of the following words: "fact," "clear," and "win."
(I don't know why I keep getting into these discussions over and over)
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Crabbok pls
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Folks, we're all focusing on the wrong thing. Let's cut to the meat of this post.
Storage is very easy. Plano tackle box and cut out the inside top for to binders:one for ships and one for upgrades. Two 9 pocket binders side sleeve holding.
I used to use the Plano 1354, but after the YV-666 came out it just wasn't able to fit all my stuff. I'm currently using a KR Multicase for ships and a zip binder to carry cards, but I still use the Plano 5231 to carry just my tournament stuff.
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Meh, just usually you get to be squad leader by being really really good. I don't know the character at all, if they are one of those people from the EU. It was just idle thought really.
Come to think of it, Garven Dreis (Red Leader) is only PS6, lower than his squadmates Porkins, Luke, and Wedge.
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Well, that's the thing - I think it is not the 'whole, cohesive build', but that builds iterate in the same way anything in the game does.
Is that so? Well then! *rubs hands*
- Let's take Keyan Farlander
- Equip B-Wing/E2, granting a Crew slot
- Equip Ezra crew
- I changed my mind, I didn't want B-Wing/E2 (but Ezra crew stays)
- No, wait, I want to equip B-Wing/E2 after all
- Equip C-3PO crew
- I changed my mind, I didn't want B-Wing/E2 (but C-3PO crew stays)
- No, wait, I want to equip B-Wing/E2 after all
- Equip Chewbacca crew
- I changed my mind...
- ad nauseam
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And honestly, the Phantom changed the game because the Rebel players didn't adapt.
Statements like this obliterate any credibility you may have had.
People can complain all they like, say silly things like "Imperials control the meta" all they like, but that doesn't change the fact that the champion players all win with Rebel lists for a reason.
- UK Nationals Champion: Brobots
- German / Austrian / Swiss Nationals Champion: Brobots
- Slovakia/Czech Republic Nationals Champion: Brobots
- Dutch Nationals Champion: Soontir Fel + Obsidian swarm
- French Nationals Champion: 4 AP + 4 Obsidians
- Australian Nationals Champion: Brobots
- Polish Nationals Champion: Thug Life
- Spanish Nationals Champion: Thug Life
- NZ Nationals Champion: Whisper/Vader/Colzet
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I'm not sure, but the abilities and call signs just don't jive for me. Wampa is ok, flavorful call and ok ability. "Youngster" is a humorous call sign but doesn't really fit with Howlrunner, Dark Curse, Night Beast...
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Youngster
/shrug
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Since you measure range closest corner to closest corner, ...
Gonna stop you right there.
You measure closest point to closest point (in arc for non-turreted ships), not corner to corner. Sometimes that means the shortest line between two bases is from one base's corner to the side of the other base. (And because of geometry, if the shortest line touches the side of the base, that line must be perpendicular to the side.)
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I keep all card text here: https://github.com/geordanr/xwing/blob/master/coffeescripts/cards-en.coffee
Not immediately machine parseable but can be with some light editing. For manual searching it should be sufficient.digitalbusker and bgFish reacted to this -
Geordan?! Make it so! I gots some lists to build.
I'll get to it tonight.
Except for Ordnance Tubes; that one reveals a significant design flaw in my builder, in that it doesn't properly track two halves of a huge ship together. That may take some time, if I can coax it in at all.
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This is what had reminded me. I'm pretty interested if tlt spam is what won.
Not so much.
https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/192577-2015-worlds-results/page-41#entry1891448
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On the other hand, I'm a startlingly mediocre player, so anyone who chooses to can dismiss my input pretty easily.
When I grow up I want to be mediocre like you, Jeff.
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Yep, Drew and I got a decent matchup against the 16 TLTs: 4 HLC defenders, 3 assault missile bombers with jonus, 3 shadows+Howlie, and Kagi. All PS3+. Landing a couple Assault missiles that did 7 splash damage was glorious
. Oh, and Drew's Defenders evaded TLTs like a boss.The aftermath of the assault missile and HLC volley (so long, shields!):

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I heard that the only ships not represented at Worlds were M3-A Interceptor and the Tie Bomber.
I for sure thought there was a Serissu there.
I can confirm that one of our group did in fact fly Serissu at Worlds.

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It's not that bad.
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It was a little bad.