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  3. Posted

    Can I make a suggestion concerning your builder?

     

    Yes!  But be warned: I am exceptionally lazy.

     

    The golden feature would be to transmit some information to cryodex, prior or during a tournament just like we can do with voidstate ID. We save a lot of time by asking players to bring their 6 digit code, but some people inevitably forget, or must redo their squads. Not a biggie when only 1-2 players are found at fault. It can also be done after the tournament. What sucks is that the preferred platform to make squads is through cellphones and voidstate just isn't flexible enough for this. YASB shines through but yet, we can't give the info to cryodex, we have to manually input them all after it's imported in List Juggler. I would so love to have the best of both worlds.

     

    The ideal solution, in my mind, is for Cryodex to support XWS imports.  (It's what XWS was made for!)

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  4. Posted

    I'm trying to enter lists via QR Code to the list juggler but somehow it doesn't work. I get to the page "Juggle it!" and I can only enter the list to an older tournament that I have entered a while ago. If I search for any other tournament the page doesn't find any.

    Did anybode else encounter this problem?

     

    I'd appreciate any help as I'd like to enter a Regional.

     

    Sozin put some fixes in; hopefully it works now.  Let us know if you're still experiencing problems!

  5. Posted · Edited by geordan

    Thats a bit disingenuous isn't it? What's the point in using Inquisitor as a % of lists not even using it?

    The assumption I'm going with (and I'm happy to have this be challenged) is that in a balanced meta, the proportion of a given list archetype (and of factions) should be roughly the same throughout the tournament. So if tournament has, say, 20% Rebels, 35% Imperial, and 45% Scum, then we should expect to see roughly similar numbers in the cut. Similarly, if 15% of Imperial lists have Howlrunner, then we should expect to see Howlrunner in 15% of the Imperial lists that made the cut.

     

    Edit: Oh, I see -- I mistyped in my earlier post.

     

    What I said:

     

    You can see the Inquisitor's representation in the cut (of Imperial lists) is about the same as the proportion of Imperial lists fielded (about 38%).

     

    What I meant to type:

     

    You can see the Inquisitor's representation in the cut (of Imperial lists) is about the same as its proportion of Imperial lists fielded (about 38%).

    That is: the Inquisitor appears in Imperial lists at roughly the same percentage both in tournament entry (~38%) and top cuts (~39%).  (Man, am I having a hard time wording things.  I should eat lunch.)

  6. Posted

    Nothing to do with them being better than anything else, per se, just that there are SO MANY OF THEM out there...

    That's true for the Inquisitor. I've taken available List Juggler data for this year's Regionals and plugged them into this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IdXry8J0tRhMNT251fhmaKRgIZtg6BaWtt7fs0ck7kY/edit#gid=1529626295

     

    You can see the Inquisitor's representation in the cut (of Imperial lists) is about the same as the proportion of Imperial lists fielded (about 38%).

    The JumpMaster, however, has a higher proportion of lists making the cut than lists fielding it (58% of Scum lists field it, but 69% of Scum lists making the cut have a JM5k). The effect is even more pronounced with Palpatine (fielded in 45% of Imperial lists, but 57% of Imperials making the cut have Palpy!).

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  7. Posted

    As to wave 8...I'm not sure it's better, per se - just that it's making the cut "more often" because SO MANY PEOPLE ARE RUNNING IT.  I mean, in the Portland regionals, we had exactly one (1, single) YT-2400 brought to the event.  Is it any wonder a YT-2400 didn't make the top cut?  I don't recall seeing any YT-1300s at all.  While, on the other hand, it seemed like 1/4 of the lists brought a Jumpmaster.  So...yeah, those are going to be over-represented in the top tables.  Not because they are necessarily better than everything else...but just because they were so much more COMMON than everything else.

    People like running the new stuff!

    Portland breakdown:

    - 15 Rebel lists

    - 24 Imperial lists

    - 20 Scum lists

    - 12 Inquisitors

    - 12 Palpatines

    - 11 lists with at least one JumpMaster

    And yes, zero YT-1300s.

  9. Posted · Edited by geordan

    Poetry

    I think you're the only one who's actually worked up about this.

    1. Who's actually using cluster mines

    2. There's usually someone who's got unused cardboard cluster mines who'll let you borrow them if the TO says your acrylic clusters are bad and should feel bad

    3. But seriously, who's actually using cluster mines*

     

    [*] Edit: I checked Store Champs this year in List Juggler.  20 out of 4036 lists, or less than 0.5% of lists

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  13. Posted

    You are quoting me out of context. I replied to someone who took the data you provided and sarcastically implied that this might have to do something with player skill. I just clarified what statements you can make based on that data.

    Whoops. I somehow ignored my quote was embedded in WickedGrey's quote.

    I mean, who listens to that guy anyway?

  14. Posted

    While this data proves that Phantoms are represented at a high level of play, I would be curious to see the same stats for Poe, of Soonrir, or Brobots, etc. Only roughly 25% of Phantoms make top tables. I wonder what the rates on other common meta ships are?

    Showing total number of lists / top 8 / top 4 / top 2 / winner:

    Poe: 373 / 58 / 40 / 18 / 9

    Soontir: 248 / 44 / 35 / 14 / 8

    At least one Aggressor: 177 / 44 / 35 / 20 / 10

  15. Posted

    Well, to be fair, you have no input on player skill which, you know, matters. So for all we know, only very good players might be taking them and winning. The only statement you can make from that is that "Phantoms are present in tournaments" and that "They have chances to make it to the final table". So, you know, they can be really good.

    Um... yes? That was literally the point of my post, as a response to the original post:

     

    Now it's kind of the white elephant of the empire's forces, it's impress traits weighed down by its high cost and extreme fragility making it something of a novelty that is never seen in the top rounds of serious competitive play.

    (Emphasis mine)

    There was discussion about the Phantom appearing at Worlds Top 16 and other reports of it appearing in the cut for Store Champs, and the counterargument (from Princezilla) was that he had been to four tournaments and didn't see Phantoms do well there. So I provided data on the Store Championship scene as a whole using available resources.

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  17. Posted

    At the risk of being considered "uncivil," "immature," or "unintelligent," I present to you this data[1].

     

    Of the Store Championships held this year which had at least 24 players[2] and were entered into List Juggler:

     

    - 175 had at least one TIE Phantom

    - 44 made the Top 8 cut

    - 34 made the Top 4 cut 

    - 21 made the final table

    - 7 won

     

    [1] Yes I checked the dates.

     

    [2] I chose this cutoff because it requires at least 4 rounds of Swiss a top 4 cut, which should give us decent signal.

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  18. Posted

    Augh, I am bad at things.  Not necessarily SQL, but calendars.  I had queried for lists since Wave 8's release date... in 2015.
     
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    So, some corrected numbers:

    It's still 22 JumpMaster lists.

    Otherwise, there was 1 Deadeye Y-wing (on Kavil) and 1 Deadeye Z-95 (on Blount).

    Sorry for the confusion!

  19. Posted

     

     

    ...making it something of a novelty that is never seen in the top rounds of serious competitive play.

     

    [citation needed]

     

    It's a rare Store Championship in SoCal that doesn't have at least one Phantom make the cut.

     

     

    *Looks at the Top 16 at Worlds 2016*

     

    Man.  I don't want to know what constitutes "serious competitive play" in Princezilla's world.

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  20. Posted · Edited by geordan

    I'm wanting to find lists with deadeye that do not have contracted scout. Trying to settle an argument.

    Took a quick peek and of the Store Champs since Wave 8 was released, and for the data that's been entered so far:

     

    Edit: yup, my SQL skills

    - 45 22 have at least one JumpMaster with Deadeye

    But it's not the only ship that carried Deadeye! There were also

    - 10 Z-95 lists

    - 5 B-wing lists

    - 2 Y-wing lists

    - 1 each of A-wing and Kihraxz (!) lists

     

    (Caveat: my SQL skills)

     

    Also edit: These aren't necessarily distinct.  There could have been a list that fielded both a Deadeye B-wing and a Deadeye Z-95, and they would have counted separately.

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  23. Posted

    I have been playing this game for three and a half years. In all that time, players who prefer the Empire have complained constantly that Rebels always had better stuff. This happened even when Imperial lists were taking the vast majority of actual tournaments.

    And even while Imperials are winning, you hear that the Rebels are "dominating." Let's look at the data.

    In the current store championship season, for tournaments of 24 or larger:

    - 42% of lists are Rebels

    - 36.3% of lists are Imperial

    - 21.7% of lists are Scum

    So, slight plurality Rebels.

    But as soon as you get to the cut and beyond, the Imperials have the upper hand.

    - Rebels comprise 38.3% of the Top 8, dropping steadily to 31.6% of winning lists

    - Imperials comprise 41.6% of the Top 8, increasing steadily to 47.4% of winning lists

    - Scum, meanwhile, consistently hold about 21% of lists through the cut and win, which basically tracks their general population.

    Put visually:

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  24. Posted

    TLT Question?   Couldn't figure it out with the website.

     

    So How many store championships and how many 4 TLT, scum and rebel, have finished in the top 8 and how many have won?

     

    How do i get this using the website?

     

    I don't know how you do it via the website, but if you ask sozin nicely you can get the SQL data directly.  However I don't think it stores repeated ships (am I reading the schema wrong, sozin?), so I have to look at the pretty text to determine which lists have 4 TLTs.

     

    For the 159 tournaments entered so far, we have

     

    • Store Championship lists entered this year: 3961
    • Lists we actually have ship data for: 2412
    • With 4xTLT: 49
    • That made top 8 elimination: 19
    • Top 4: 18
    • Top 2: 10
    • Won: 6

     

    ...That doesn't seem right.  I can't believe fewer than 50 quad TLTs have been flown in total -- it seems like it should be an order of magnitude off, but at least here in the SF Bay Area that does seem to be the case (4xTLT is a rarity).  Someone else please check my numbers.

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