4th Edition City Questions, movement and the Tinkerer

[4th Edition City Questions, movement and the Tinkerer]

The_Warlock said:

You don't have to leave the City if you don't want to. You only have to move following the arrows. When you reach the City Gate again, you can begin another circle in the Street Area.

Thank you for clarifying this. This is what I believed wen reading the rules, others in my group insisted that the drawings of the movement in the manual contradicted this notion.

The_Warlock said:

The Tinkerer of course will create such problems in all interactions between Objects and Followers. One by one they will be found and examined. This Transmute case is quite interesting, as the wording of the Spell don't contemplate such a case. I would say that the Weapons and Armour are still transmuted into wood and discarded, as the state of automated Follower doesn't cancel their Weapon and Armour traits (they still count as Weapons and Armours). But they are not Magic Objects anymore, they're Followers, so the former Magic Weapons and Armours CAN be trasmuted now. This should be clarified by FFG, if possible.

Another case is the combination with Cursed Glade, Destroy Magic or Magic Shell. As the automated Followers are not Objects or Magic Objects anymore, I suppose the Tinkerer can use them in all these cases.

Well as far as interactions with followers I know that they will never be treated as followers other than the Tinkerer and they are no longer treated as Objects to anyone, including the Tinkerer. The issue comes from the wording on the cards, like "Weapon" or "Armor" as that clasification is not changed, like you mentioned, and specifically states on the Tinkerer card they should still be clasified as that, even if they are considered followers. What you brought up that they are no longer considered Magic Objects is abnother layer of complexity altogether.

Does this mean that any enemy/creature that needs a magic object to be defeated can not be defeaed by an Item turned into an Automaton by the tinkerer? Sheesh this is getting very confusing.

How do I contact FFG about this, would love to see if there could be an official rulling on this. We hate to homebrew rules and try to keep anything official.

[4th Edition City Questions, movement and the Tinkerer]

Our group recently introduced the latest city expansion for Talisman and has come up with some questions which we would love to have clarified if possible.

First comes the movement in the city, we understand that we must follow the arrows around the city and can’t normally go backwards, that much is clear, what we are debating on is whether or not we MUST leave the city after one full circle has been completed. For example, the player starts his next move on the Speakers Corner and rolls a 6 for movement. Is he then forced to move out of the city (landing on either the Fields space closer to the Chapel or the Plains space near the Tavern) or can he continue on within the city past the city gate?

Our next question that needs clarifying is geared toward the Tinkerer’s power to automate objects. Any objects he chooses can be an automaton and follows the special followers rule found in the FAQ. That rule states any such objects are considered followers to the Tinkerer and are no longer Objects. It also states on the tinkerer card that any weapons and armor taken have to follow the limitations of weapons and armor, meaning only one of each can be elected to be used before battle. But does this mean that regular non-magical weapons and armor, such as a sword and helmet, are susceptible to the spell Transmute? The card does state Cast on any character at the start of his turn. All of the character's Weapons and Armour, except Magic Objects, are transmuted into wood and must be discarded.