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  1. Yes, the DLT can shoot and the rebels have heavy cover. Range and cover is always measured from the leader only, LOS is measured per model.
  2. There is no such thing as "realism" in a made up world. Call them Hostile environment Troopers instead of Snowtrooper. Maybe there are dangerous fumes in the jungle or heavy sandstorms in the desert. Paint them green/brown and you're fine. Only thing I see a bit weird is half naked models (which don't exist yet) on Hoth. But then say they wear thermal bandages 😉
  3. I absolutely agree that we need new missions to mix up the meta a bit. A killpoint scenario would be a good way, but also other missions which prefer tough units (vehicles!) over sneaky claim actions. But I don't see that Legion or the Meta is in a bad place atm. I actually like the fact, that the core units are strong and used very extensively. I know so many games where you take the absolute bare minimum of crappy core units to save as many points as possible for the overpowered elite slots. And nearly every games top meta is built by taking the best unit to the limit, then the next best unit, then the next best unit, until you run out of points. The trick is, to balance the game, where the best choices aren't obvious. Looking at the top placings of tournaments, we actually have some variety. Yes we have the obvious Twins lists which haven't changed since commandos came out, but at Adapticon for example a Han/Leia Chewie List came in second, Fleet Troopers and Pathfinders were included in the list placing 3rd and also multiple Veers/Boba/Snowtroopers builds as well as an Emperor list made it top 7. So it is not a fact, that you face the same copy paste lists in every game on a tournament. Also not everybody going to tournaments has the approach of playing the one popular list at the time. Some will try to counter metalists and many will just play what models they like / have painted. So there is a large variety already but we only talk about the few winning lists, also ignoring the fact, that David Kingsley is a really good player who prefers to play the wonder twins atm and he would probably also get top placements with a different list. What I see as a bit of a problem at the moment are sniper teams. As stated already, they are cheap thus helping the unit count go up, and very safe to play. They only get countered by other snipers and Veers/Leias 1-pip cards. Once you won the sniper war, you have the unit activation advantage and a very reliable wound/kill every round. They are a major reason why some more expensive units are almost unplayable (Deathtroopers). I am looking forward to the smoke greanades and hope they help counter snipers a bit (presumably placing los blockers). Also The mortars may help here, though I don't think that crit fishing is a reliably way of getting rid of sniper teams. As for activation delaying / passing options, I bet there will be some way in the future. They introduced it in Imperial Assault and in Armada, sooner or later it will come for Legion. My money is on a command upgrade (5P-ish) where you can pass if you have fewer activations left. It is exhaustable and refreshes each round.
  4. I can say with good confidence that at least this statement is bantha poodoo. Considering all possible deployment zones leaves us with only 1/3 of space that is in no deployment zone. If we follow the rule of 1/4 of space covered with terrain, every table would have a very dense pile of terrain in the center and a lot of free space everywhere else ...
  5. I agree. Though it's hard to avoid two of those FDs ... Just one last advice: Don't get cocky 😉
  6. At least the list sounds like a lot of fun! I hope you'll report how it fared on the tournament. I would definitely exchange Sabotaged Communications for Coordinated Bombardment (There is no better way to start a battle than with 2 Dodge tokens on Chewie and Han each and a shot an all enemy Sniper teams) and with only 3 core units (one of which can't really shoot) Covering Fire can easily be exchanged for Change of Plans.
  7. SailorMeni

    Panic

    You played everything correctly and Luke would have run off the board had he failed to remove any suppression. But in fact there are a lot more options to prevent units with lots of suppression tokens to run away. One would be to use the inspire keyword. Then there are some tricks with command cards: Jyn's Complete the mission ignores panic, Leia's No Time For Sorrows might push you far enough away from the edget to not run off the board, Luke's Return of the Jedi card removes Suppression (yes, also his own), ... To actually scare Luke off the board is quite hard, but panicking in general is a solid and impactful part of the game.
  8. You can break it down to two issues: 1) the army list 2) how you use the units/terrain/objectives 1) to be honest, I think the list is rather weak. I tend to win most games in my community but wouldn't see me doing nearly as good with that. Without going into detail, I advise you to browse through lists in the internet (for example: https://swlegionodds.com/2019/02/10/lvo-top-6-lists-and-brief-reca/) to find strong and successful lists. 2) The game is won by objectives. Every action you take in the game should first and foremost help you win the objective. Never run out in the open unless it is necessary to give you an advantage in winning the game. Stay in cover when possible, don't shoot at units if it is not likely it gives you a benefit (hard cover + dodge is not a good target). Hiding behind terrain and waiting for an opportunity can often be the better choice. Look what units you opponent has and try to find a counter. Han is bothering you? Try entangling him in Close combat (doubly move to to that is fine!), he will be occupied for some time. Snipers are bothering you? Use Veers 1-pip to get rid of a unit in round 1. Fleet Troopers are piercing you to pieces? The have only range 2: wait for them to come to you and position yourself in a way, that they have to go into the open to do so. Walking carpet? Wound him with your units and time the kill for Boba to get the bounty! Believe us and the statistics, the fractions are very well balanced. Don't blame the rebels being overpowered but look at what you can change to even the odds. Also talk with your opponents after the game. What do they think you could have done better. What situations were they affraid of? You could even do a list swap some time and look if your opponent can outplay you with imperials as well. Maybe the rebel playstyle is more suited for you and you would like to play them more often. And most of all: don't focus on winning the game, focus on having fun!
  9. It often boils down do personal preferences and experience. If you don't find a way to make Boba effective with your playstyle, don't use him. I for example used Han already a lot and it doesn't seem to really work out. In my first game, he ran off the board on turn 2 (my mistake ...) but since then he most of the time is just hiding around, doing very little because whenever he goes out in the open (and by open I mean visible in heavy cover) he takes a beating immediately. I just don't seem to be able to roll anything but blanks with his defense dice. On paper it looks good and all and I really like his command cards but on the table it doesn't work out for me. Fett on the other hand is a defining player in all my games that's why I can't think of a list without him (when I aim for efficiency).
  10. Even in the ideal situation where Boba jumps out in the open, gets shot by the FD with barrage and aim twice before boba jumps out again, he gets 3 wounds and still survives and can hide the rest of the game. But since Boba is not stupid, he would at least take heavy cover, reducing the damage to barely 2 wounds. If he is a clever dude, he even brings medics and/or guards and takes 1 wound (if even) and is perfectly save. When I'm playing Boba and there is Chewbacca on the other side, I'm very likely to do some happy dance. There is no easier Bounty than him. every hit translates into wounds (he even takes wounds when shooting at other stuff), he runs towards action and mid game even loses suppression-cover. The tricky part is to not kill the carpet with something else before Fett can do it 😆.
  11. Did you use his Command Cards? The rockets make him deal an averager of 3 wounds on range 3, ignoring cover. The flamethrower wipes an entire unit and the 1-pip card imobilizes one unit (hello Luke!). And during the rest of the game he reliably kills 1 trooper (range 3) or 2 troopers (range 2) and then there is the bounty. His save is good but you are not supposed to move him in the open and wait for him to be shot. You stay away or in cover and if need be "guard" or heal him. In my opinion he is the second best model in the game, only topped by Luke.
  12. In my experience there are two types of Legion Games: One where one side hase a huge advantage (either by list, play experience or sometimes just luck with the dice) where the game is decided after 3 rounds and one side gives up. This also happenes when one or both sides act recklessly and figures are taken from the board with shovels. The other is where two equally skilled players with equally potent lists face each other and every activaction counts and could turn the tide. Both players play defensively and think twice about every move and very few models actually die because there is so much positioning, hiding, and dodging. These games often last 4+ hours but are the most fun and intense games (and don't feel like they are dragging forever). Most Tournament games are of the latter kind.
  13. This topic comes up every other week and I pretty sure there will be no Points increase in the near future and very likely not ever. The game is balanced for 800P and very good in my opinion. I have a feeling that the mostly driving reason for wanting 1000P is because 1000 feels like a nice number. I'm pretty convinced that if everything in Legion was priced 20% higher and 1000P would be the standard there would be no question of whether we should increase to 1250 Points. I tried writing a 1000P list for an upcoming ground assault event and I always wound up creating a 800P list I'm comfortable with and then adding some (and then worrying about activation control). It's mostly what you are accustomed to. If you played already some 1000P games you'll of course feel more comfortable with it. I like it as it is and see no reason to change it. Everybody is of course to play however they like. But the standard is 800P, it's not going to change and please don't try to force it on anybode else.
  14. I played two round of Operation Take the Hill yesterday and it was a blast! It works really well and makes for quick and fun games (both games were decided at the start of round 3 after less than 1h). You have to definitely take the Battle Builder rules from there because the battle-cards for the large game don't scale down to 3x3. You might wanna tweak some monor things (Key positions as per FAQ of the Battlecard, Secure the drone reprogram actions per round) and maybe cut them out to use them as Battlecards to mix up the selected scenarios if you are playing it regularly.
  15. The backdraw of Covering Fire is that you can only order Corps units. But you can add Comms Relay to a Corps unit to relay the order to another type (Luke). So you benefit from the Covering Fire effekt while still being able to give Luke an order to activate him whenever needed.
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