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  1. Based on the original post (which I interpreted as temp increases to wound/strain threshold) I would add control upgrades upgrades to the imbue power. That power is already tailor made to reinforcing a living target, has all your relevant actions, durations, etc. I think that is a natural place to jump off of, and avoids adding too many unnecessary elements to the game.
  2. To respect others I’ll end my part of this conversation with this: if something is not canon, then it is not fact. Even things within canon are open to interpretation. My point is that in a discussion regarding holocron facts there are shockingly few confirmed facts, and a ton of EU wish listing. I’ll avoid “wrong” as a word, but any conclusions reached regarding any SW lore that isn’t based on canon is spurious at best. And like I said, many times, what’s good for your game is awesome and I don’t want to diminish it or tell anyone that there game is wrong. But it's Important to acknowledge non-canon lore is not actually founded in the universe as it is presented. It’s like a house rule; even if it’s a house rule everyone uses (looking at you starship combat) it’s still not actually the rules, and acknowledging that is important. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to consult with my wonka holocron: 50% gobstopper, 50% glass elevator, powered by edible kybers grown in a furnace with the soul of a bad egg that wants the whole world.
  3. Actually, that does mean it was wrong. That’s how canonizing things works.
  4. I would add that if you aren’t depending much on force rating, consider some of the spec from EotE or AoR to play off your character. Body guard could add a lot of durability and group support/defense. Marshal actually plays in nicely depending on how you view your character giving you durability and some good and synergies with your social checks.
  5. Your opinion is yours, but that does mean it’s right. Im just pointing out that we don’t know, officially, much of anything. Protracted debates using unauthoritative sources is a pointless endeavor. I’m not weighing in on whether they are alchemical or not. Because no one knows that (except possibly the story group). Remeber when the reason sith crystals were red was because tgey were pressure molded in a furnace, and their synthetic nature was not “ok” because the Jedi were hippies that needed organic crystals? Up until last year that was the “legend”, but it was dead wrong. So how about we stick to what we know, not what we think it should be, probably will be, or would like it to be when discussing what they actually are, and then give our opinions about what we’ll use in our home games. Those seem like really good topics; if the bane novels are going to possibly be canon in some form is a boring topic.
  6. Sure, but it’s also not “the truth”. If I think all holocrons are made from rock candy, and the soul of a parakeet I’m not really wrong. (Of course I am). For the people who were heavily invested in the arguement of is a holocrons alchemical in nature, the bane books are no longer relevant, in the same way aristotle’s Theory of the elements is not really relevant to chemistry. It’s neat, but it’s just a legendary theory.
  7. Archlyte: you’re doing an awful lot of speculation on the motives of filoni, Lucas, et al at LFL. Let me tell you that Lucas was heavily involved in the mortis story. He was heavily involved in ALL the clone wars. Filoni personally oversees almost every aspect of rebels. These stories are not errant writers who think these things are cool and **** the man, this is the direction of SW, like it or lump it. As far as sourcing the above claim, I have come to understand this through multiple interviews with Filoni, Ashley eckstein (sp?), Freddie prince jr, Sam whitwer, and Lucas himself. I can’t just point to one place, and for that I apologize. You’ll just have to believe me, or not. Having said the above, again, this should have zero impact on 98% of games. Because it has zero impact on 98% of SW. Yoda’s not Concerned about the three; likely he doesn’t know they are real. Ezra interacted with their icons without ever understanding what was happening. Ill say it one last time; you don’t have to like it, you do t have to use it, and ignoring it is not done din against SW or the Fandom. As an example, I don’t like the way gungans were portrayed in Ep 1, but there was an art piece of a gungan force warrior that always looked awesome to me. So I made gungans boss in my games. The town they went to in Ep1, boss nass, etc they were from the deep Louisiana of Naboo. I’d worry less about what you don’t like, and focus on what you do like, and what you can do with that. But that’s just my philosophy.
  8. Sure. Just in a conversation about the official way to do it, not that helpful.
  9. You know those books aren’t part of official canon. It is part of legends. There is very little in new canon that gives specific details.
  10. It’s a lense to view things through. Almost everything in star wars is from a certain point of view right? So this is another. Maybe the son is snoke. Would explain why he’s so enamoured with Vader. But more so, does that matter? Whether he’s the son, the reincarnation of uncle Owen skywalker, or Mace Windu’s remaining left foot, snoke is snoke, and his purpose was to challenge Kylo. Similarly in the mortis series the entities were there to challenge the Jedi and what they think of as real. I wouldn’t sweat defining the truth in all of this. I would sweat what makes a compelling story. Which of course YMMV.
  11. Yeah... Is that a refutation of my statement, or just a non-sequitor off my statement? because quoting me and saying that seems pretty off the wall.
  12. Think of them more like Greek/Norse God’s in a way. They are simultaneously aspirations, warnings, and characters that don’t really exist. One could even question if the Morris clone wars arch even happened. So if you don’t like them, then the story never happened. And I don’t mean dismiss it as “not canon” but who even knows about it? Anikin won’t be discussing it over tea with the PCs, I doubt old Ben would either. But like on rebels, the iconography can permeate a temple or ancient site. You as the GM can decide what the figures represent. The son is not all bad, just passionate, head strong. A lot like Luke. The daughter made naive mistakes even though she thought she was doing the right thing, leading to her death. The father was not aware of how far his children drifted. Sounds like a mono myth to me. i guess just don’t get bogged down in the actual clone wars story. I strongly recommend watching rebels season 4 as an example of how you can use them without necessarily using them. But it’s rule zero: make it your own. Or don’t use it. Your call.
  13. Interesting - never noticed the holocrons looking thing. Although, having just watched that part, the word holocrons is never used. So while it looks like one, it could just be an ornate holo-player. In anycase, my point is do what you want man/person. There is so little about how holocrons are made that you can’t be wrong.
  14. Just pointing out, that storyline was a direct brain child of Lucas himself. While he didn’t write it, he was first and last word on that story. And has been pointed out, they are not “the force” but metaphorical and literal manifestations. I mean if you don’t like it, I wouldn’t worry. I’m not sure I did the literal elements of the clone wars story. But the whole thing pays off nicely in season 4 of rebels IMO, so I’m cool with there existence.
  15. Technically protect can be used as an incidental with the right upgrades.
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