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[Victory Bridge: Bridge in Sight - LOS question]

Dakkon426 said:

The rules for line of sight are that a unit can only see out of a building from a square with an "exit" and only in the direction of that exit(s). The exit is an opening in the building wall and there are two types, large and small. The small are less then a full square and will block line of site and movement diagonaly from the the exit. A large exit is at least one square in length and will not block the diagonal line of site and walkers may pass through this type of entrance. 

In your case a squad in the green square cannot see out of the building, this is because a unit may only see outside of a building  from a square that depicts an exit. The observer unit would have to move 1 square to the right to see the (D) deployment zone of the bridge. also the observer must have line of site to call an artillery strike on a target.

Quote from rev core set rule book page 17:
*In order for a unit inside a structure to attack an enemy unit outside a structure, the
attacking unit must be on a space that shows an exit in the direction of the attack.

*In order for a unit outside a structure to attack an enemy unit inside a structure, the
enemy unit must be on a space that shows an exit.

 

 

And this is where I was at yesterday during the game, *but* the rules here are talking about ATTACKING, and the counter point is merely SEEING. If a unit can see you, but not attack, can he call in artillery? Is the act of using a skill the equivalent of an attack?

Don't get me wrong, I'm merely playing devils advocate and tend to be in the camp of "LOS = Attack" and that there is no LOS in my example, because no attack can take place, *BUT* the whole Artillery Strike (Skill) ... 

The player in question tends to latch onto rules, and if it's not specifically said that you can't, he therefore assumes you can. 

[Victory Bridge: Bridge in Sight - LOS question]

 Cool ... I agree. So by that definition even though they can't attack each other, they CAN call in artillery (or use other sight-based skills) ... it would seem to imply that they could.

[Victory Bridge: Bridge in Sight - LOS question]

 Hey guys - my boyfriend bought me this game for Christmas and we all played it yesterday for the first time: it ROCKS ... really enjoying it. 

I've been reading this forums closely this morning as - inevitably - a couple of questions emerged, the main one being around the scenario Victory Bridge: Bridge in Sight.

On the map below, can a unit with the artillery skill positioned in the green square (like a command squad) *see* the Allies Deployment squares covering the bridge, and therefore call in artillery strikes from an artillery equipped walker positioned behind the building?

One part of our group said "no. A unit has to be near the wall/exit to fire out and be fired upon."

Another part of our group said "what you can fire upon has nothing to do with LOS, and nothing here blocks LOS, therefore the Artillery skill can be used."

Something I read on this forum this morning has me leaning towards the latter, even though every fiber of my being says this is wrong. And if the Observer can see 'out' from here and use skills (like artillery), this would effectively mean that even though someone on the bridge could see them back, they could not fire upon them, so the observer would be impervious to anything but raiding the building.