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    gennataos reacted to Boom Owl in ETA Reactions   
    Yea I started there for sure with Ani Pred + Obi Pred + VVV. Has a wild amount of room to play with up to 200 points. 
    Beginning to think through various hyper matchups worth testing against Trip Hull/Pred/Patience 655 ETA specifically. 
    Some combo of the following: 
    2x Tractor Syck + 2x Ion Sycks + 2x Tracer Sycks + Syck  Kylo + 3 Conc Passive SFs  5x ESC Vultures + HMP Dorks + Tri  Han Seasoned Nien + Luke + Pred Jake = 189 Mal SF SF SF SF Rivas  I know the Ani Obi + Gang list can manage any of the swarm matchups.
    Need to sort out how far 655 can go. Suspect its pretty far. 
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    gennataos got a reaction from 5050Saint in ETA Reactions   
    I've played maybe 5-6 games, mostly with ace + gang, and it sure feels like the System Phase reposition (along with dial, high init and force) catapults them into the highest of ace tiers.  
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    gennataos got a reaction from theBitterFig in ETA Reactions   
    I've played maybe 5-6 games, mostly with ace + gang, and it sure feels like the System Phase reposition (along with dial, high init and force) catapults them into the highest of ace tiers.  
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    gennataos reacted to Boom Owl in ETA Reactions   
    This doesn’t line up with the games I have played (all hyperspace only). Ani definitely can get by without patience (3 force is a ridiculous starting amount) but adding it makes him that much more forgiving. You will eventually need to defend against multiple shots. Patience makes a bunch of different scenarios substantially less sketchy. Lets you regen and stay in the fight. 
    The ETAs party trick is not taking damage and spiking damage in key moments. Every extra purple charge helps. 
    For 2 pts it gives a ridiculous amount of tactical flexibility and you definitely don't need to use it every activation round to get value.
    If an init kill is there for the taking and your not under threat after than you make decisions based on the board state. Given the phase Patience triggers you have all the info you need to make those calls.
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    gennataos reacted to Boom Owl in ETA Reactions   
    Updating with some way to early reactions: 
    Limited # of games all hyperspace only. Played a couple test games of the following, more with the second list than the first: 
    Ani Obi Aayla with 3x copies of Patience Predator Hull for 189  Ani Obi + VVV with 2x copies of Patience for 190  An Pred + Obi Pred + V + V Besh Thermal + V Besh Thermal 200  Initial impression are basically this:
    Predator makes their offense super reliable. Definitely getting multiple 3-4 dice shots a game from each individual ETA.  Makes Evade the default action unless I am not defending or repositioning out of arc   Gives you "full" offensive mods while bonked  Reduces the need to ever Purple Lock  I feel like they offer similar offensive threat to Fang Fighters but more flexibility  Dangerous from various ranges with far better time on target and less predictable movement
      Patience makes force management pretty easy Getting to Range 1 bullseye and Depleting for 3 dice is pretty normal and advisable  Even depleting down to 2 dice at R`1 outside of bullseye is a reasonable thing to do  The fact it is not range dependent is incredible 
      Hull upgrade is gravy Adding this makes the ETA feel like a hybrid between Whisper and Fang Fighter  Similar and often better offensive fire power, improved defense and mobility  Every one of these ships feels like Whisper in terms of offensive output with better mobility and defense 
      Purple Talon Rolls  Again with Patience you worry less about using this and should have the force to use it  The boost into talon lets you go a bunch of different places. Being able to roll or boost or action after the Talon is massively useful 
      Purple Target Locks Setting up target locks is possible since these recycle flank well and have the opportunity to regularly Predator sort of replaces this out right and makes it a Lock if you can, ignore it otherwise type deal  You rarely "need" to target lock with these things 
      System Phase Repositions Should be familiar territory for everyone. Can't emphasize enough how much this keeps your dial open turn to turn  I find the availability of Predator and low cost of Patience make me use this much more aggressively than I probably would otherwise  Building flanks is largely trivial since you can pretty easily modify your positioning/distance/angle leading up to engagements  Escaping via Double Reposition is slightly more difficult but its still a single repo ship with boost or roll. These absolutely arc dodge.  Engagements play out the way they normally do for Whisper.  Multiple ETAs can move like Phantoms + the added boost making it simple to create recycled kill boxes.  The 2 bank instead of 1 bank brings them closer to the fight but thats ok and can work around it with boost instead of roll and hard 1 turns  More or less ETAs are really good at leaving open a bunch of options open round to round and escape routes (though you can still get trapped kinda) During the planning phase opponents definitely have to choose to "threaten" pretty wide areas and process a bunch of possible options 
      Ani and Obi can likely handle a bunch of matchups Need to do more testing but 4 hull Pred Patience Ani and Obi are strong enough to manage a variety of 2v4 matchups. Its early but the pair definitely felt like more than 109-127 points on the table  Both of their abilities are strong with Ani tossing locks, stress, deplete, strain out the airlock and Obi tossing clutch focus tokens  Dedicated i3 Vs seem like their friend if points/bid allow  Running the pair in lists up to 200 points seems like it gives a ton of options for dealing with hyper swarm matchups (though 200 pts probably isn't necessary). 
      Aayla's ability is incredible Seriously spikes durability converting blanks to eyes given all the force charges available Durable on her own and still a serious offensive threat with Pred + i5 + 4 dice shots + 2 force etc.  Thanks to patience she can work around having 1 less charge than the Ani/Obi  
      I don't know what the correct list will be because I don't know what the matchups will be  However Patience/Predator/Hull feels like the correct upgrade combo unless your making room for more ships  Way to early to say what the matchups look like against various other Hyperspace things  So yea overall I am not surprised by the price given how cheap CLT Athers already were. I am surprised that the ETA has both a Talent and a Mod slot. Seems to mitigate a bunch of the constraints that I enjoyed playing around during pre-points proxy testing. Next Hyperspace ETA list I think I will try is Pred Ani + Pred Obi + Pred Shaak + Ric for 200. I am guessing that is not optimal though and that there are ETA lists that can afford to bid without risking to much in terms of matchups. 
    TLDR: I need to do more matchup testing from both sides of the table but it seems good in Hyperspace. 
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    gennataos reacted to Ryuneke in Ryunekes Battle Reports   
    You're right, that is a bold statement. I said that because when you play a list I think you rather quickly get a feeling if it is bad, good or really strong. After 7 games with this list (5 are in this thread) I think it can be really strong if you put enough reps in. It sure has some tough matchups (i.e. bombs). But I'd rather play this against swarms than any other aces list because IC makes these things nearly unblockable. 
    I also faced another CIS swarm lately. The potential to dance around behind gas clouds and to lure your opponent into certain positions is pretty powerful. I only killed two vultures but lost only 1hp. If your opponent can't focus fire he/she won't get any damage through. Having IC means you can block enemy ships in the system phase or get into a position where your opponent can't block your maneuver later. This is why I think the ship is so powerful. Oh yeah, and the Stealth Device. If it would lose the mod slot it becomes different ship 😉
    What comes to my mind as well: The 3 ETA list requires a really defensive playstyle. But this isn't the way everybody wants or can play the game. I am still struggling with this as well. 
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    gennataos got a reaction from Ryuneke in Ryunekes Battle Reports   
    Are all of your games in this thread?  Just curious if you've played against beef, swarms or much stuff with bombs.  The emboldened part of the quote seems like a pretty, uh...bold statement.   
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    gennataos got a reaction from Hoarder of Garlic Bread in Ryunekes Battle Reports   
    Are all of your games in this thread?  Just curious if you've played against beef, swarms or much stuff with bombs.  The emboldened part of the quote seems like a pretty, uh...bold statement.   
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    gennataos got a reaction from GreenDragoon in Ryunekes Battle Reports   
    Are all of your games in this thread?  Just curious if you've played against beef, swarms or much stuff with bombs.  The emboldened part of the quote seems like a pretty, uh...bold statement.   
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    gennataos reacted to Ryuneke in ETA Reactions   
    I really think it's to early to assume the chassis needs changes. Let's give the ship some time first and see how it'll do in the meta and in larger tournaments. I talked to a lot of people lately who tried the ship and failed pretty hard. I played two games yesterday and recognized how fragile it is when you make mistakes or your dice fail you once (which will happen)
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    gennataos got a reaction from Archangelspiv in ETA Reactions   
    Unless I'm missing something, they have one way to natively stress themselves (4K), so can probably drop the R4s and do something else with those points.
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    gennataos reacted to Cpt ObVus in ETA Reactions   
    I think that just means BB-8 ought to be a lot cheaper.
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    gennataos got a reaction from 5050Saint in ETA Reactions   
    Naked, I have a hard time believing in most of them.  Include a few upgrades and it seems like some could be the most slippery aces in the game.  I haven't played any yet to develop a real opinion, but plan to.  Those MFers get BB-8 built in.  SO MAD.
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    gennataos reacted to GreenDragoon in ETA Reactions   
    Just pointing out that ETAs don't have to take an evade when they arc dodge everyone.
    Also the comparison to Soontir is really obvious. Reposition before or after maneuver is different, but both are strong.
    If 3 hull were that fragile then so was Soontir
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    gennataos reacted to Three Eye Joe in Tosche Station Radio: An X-wing Podcast   
    Episode 28!
    EDITOR'S NOTE: We had a number of audio issues with this recording, and our apologies for any choppy edits. We found mynocks chewing through our cables, it's been a mess here, but we're pulling through. Thanks for the support and the patience!
    FFG out! AMG in! New points! New Hyperspace! Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, listen to us as we guide you through this chaos with our best takes on all the changes going on recently in X-Wing.
    https://lixbwu.podbean.com/e/tosche-station-radio-episode28/?fbclid=IwAR3ChUvHKnjMV-R8bns8s7RxiQ_GWOvk0q1qmqLGYw-R_HKn-K9hCXjSp_g
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    gennataos reacted to underling in Hyperspace: No, sod off. Full stop.   
    ^^^^^ This.
    I mean, I wouldn't even *think* about running six interceptors in Extended...  
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    gennataos got a reaction from Boom Owl in New Hyperspace Is Neat - Thanks FFG   
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    gennataos reacted to Cuz05 in Hyperspace: No, sod off. Full stop.   
    Sad lockdown noises.
    My experience jars hard with the bolded.
    Our season ran thusly- Every week, one of several relatively local stores would run a tourney, periodically there will be a trial, then we'll get an Open. All of this was HS. Once or twice a week, I'll get together with some folks and play, obviously testing HS lists.
    Occasionally, some larger random event will come along, this might be Extended. And there will be a few Nationals, Extended.
    We had a brief period where nearly normal service was resumed. There were 3 or 4 local tourneys I could have gone to, all were HS.
    So basically, I barely play anything but Hyperspace when it comes to OP.
    There are some round here that complain about that. 
    Current timeline of X Wing only happening on TTS and being all Extended is something of an anomaly.
     
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    gennataos got a reaction from theBitterFig in Hyperspace: No, sod off. Full stop.   
    I’d agreed with hyperspace being the superior competitive format since its inception...until now. I’m glad the format exists.  It is cool to have a format which forces choices.  To suggested it’s currently a well-balanced competitive format seems fairly disingenuous.  
     
    I’m happy to be proven wrong, but I don’t think that’ll happen.  Many vocal proponents of the Hyperspace format basically summarily dismissed GSP extended data for various reasons, so I’m not sure how Hyperspace data could end up being any more relevant. 
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    gennataos got a reaction from SabineKey in Hyperspace: No, sod off. Full stop.   
    I’d agreed with hyperspace being the superior competitive format since its inception...until now. I’m glad the format exists.  It is cool to have a format which forces choices.  To suggested it’s currently a well-balanced competitive format seems fairly disingenuous.  
     
    I’m happy to be proven wrong, but I don’t think that’ll happen.  Many vocal proponents of the Hyperspace format basically summarily dismissed GSP extended data for various reasons, so I’m not sure how Hyperspace data could end up being any more relevant. 
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    gennataos reacted to theBitterFig in Hyperspace: No, sod off. Full stop.   
    Is it?  In Extended, you can fly whatever ship is your favorite.  Will it win or even be competitive?  Well, that's a different story. But you *CAN* play it.  In Hyperspace, that choice can be made for you.  If you're flying ships you don't have fun with in Extended, well, you picked the list.
    This rings truer to me than it ever has.
    Prior to this round of HS, I was inclined to think Hyperspace should be the main competitive format, and Extended ought to be the just-for-fun format.
    That just flipped.
    Again, I think this HS round looks fun to me.  It's OK for folks to like different things.  Of course, I'll probably never actually play it in person, but that's just how it goes these days.
    But I don't think Hyperspace could be seen as a serious format.  (Not serious anymore?  Was it ever serious?)  Anyhow, now clearly Hyperspace is a spice-things-up format.  If that's what some folks want to keep excited about X-Wing, then great!  I'm all for it.  For folks who like it, I think that's great.  But it's a significantly harder ask for folks who don't like it.  Overall, I can't really justify my older view that FFG ought to go to lengths to promote it as the main competitive format.  It's too strange for that now, too skewed. 
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    gennataos reacted to ForceSensitive in Hyperspace: No, sod off. Full stop.   
    @kris40k was just expanding on your point. I'm glad that extended exists for players who want a more static environment.
    I do think Hyperspace is the better format though for competition, for a number of reasons. I've never seen it suggested that design should focus on it, which I agree would be a weird thing. Balancing is of course going to have to be split evenly between the two.
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    gennataos reacted to kris40k in Hyperspace: No, sod off. Full stop.   
    @ForceSensitive Sure, and if you enjoy the Hyperspace format more than Extended, more power to ya.

     
    There is just no reason for insulting players who don't prefer a particular format, or that are upset that they can no longer play the ships or pilots that they enjoy in it, as the particular poster I was responding to was. I'm personally glad that Hyperspace exists, and that its a space for those that enjoy the building constraints with limited lists and shaking up the meta periodically. I just personally enjoy Extended more. I'm also against the occasional statement made by some on the forums that FFG should favor Hyperspace over Extended when it comes to design decisions, balancing, and events. 
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    gennataos got a reaction from theBitterFig in Hyperspace: No, sod off. Full stop.   
    Is someone planning a big hyperspace event?
    I’m not sure why that’s something to laugh at. People play the game, even the competitive game, for different reasons.  
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    gennataos reacted to kris40k in Hyperspace: No, sod off. Full stop.   
    Looking at the table and realizing, "I'm flying ships that I don't enjoy flying. I'm actually not having fun right now" is a legit reason to dislike playing the Hyperspace format.
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