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  1. With heavily discounted starter boxes, anything not in them is going to feel bad. At $36 per expansion, it's in line with Runewars (3 trays instead of 2 per box) so if you want to field a big unit of new unit, it's going to cost.
  2. The loss-leading starter and expensive expansion plan kinda rubs me the wrong way. Feels hard to justify getting a couple boxes of Steel Legion or Marksmen Clones when that's the same price as a whole starter. Decent chance I pick up a box though, $68 is pretty nuts.
  3. 3x1 is certainly the most problematic, which is why I've focused my attention there. In addition to high damage it gets protected, niche mortal strike power, and amazing positional flexibility with marching cornicen. I think the 2x1 could probably use a boost of some sort, but that's a problem for much later. As for Ankaur's champion uprade version, the change would probably be fine and low-impact, but it doesn't register as important right now. I think lots of heroes in units could use tweaking, so we'll do a pass later on once the high priority items are sorted out a bit.
  4. I almost suspect you've fabricated this story to make me feel good about myself, because it is exactly what I was going for. Two points of bid is pretty cool but not game breaking, four points is kind of a big deal when you need to really think about whether you'd be better off with a tempered steel, etc. Golems I often find a similar thing, they amble around for positioning, blocking and threatening lanes, then get to attack once or twice. It feels really bad when they whiff one of those attacks, so boosting the lower end of their damage is just what I want. Thanks for the lovely feedback!
  5. I do think she's too strong (or at least too polar), but not a high enough priority to worry about at this stage. Ultimately I'd like to make her more mobile to reflect her being a scout on foot (free reform after march or shift seems good) in exchange for power from her less interactive knife throwing (reduce range to 1-3 for a start). Shooting at I2 is such a uniquely powerful ability. Not everyone responded to every question. It says how many did below each question - 44 responded to Daqan overperforming, 45 to underperforming, etc. Oddly, no single question has 50 responses.
  6. Hello community! Pursuant to my balance survey, I've put together a package of suggested changes to improve the health of the game. Some are small, sensible, and crowd-sourced, others are larger and more controversial, reinforcing my perceptions of design intent and unit theme. This thread is meant to be a place to share playtest experience more than suggestions for ways to change units, but I'm not a cop, follow your heart. I am concerned that I'm trying for too many changes all at once, but I feel pretty strongly about them all. Outside of Latari, any given list is likely to encounter one or two of them, plus the blanket change to terrain, so I feel it should be manageable. Realistically, we need an impossible amount of feedback to get a real sense of certification for any changes, but I'll take whatever you feel like giving me! As a rough guideline, here's a format to help figure things out: Army List #1: Army List #2: Deployment and Scenario used: Something that really stood out by performing well: Something that really stood out by performing poorly: General impressions:
  7. And we've hit 50! Check out the results here.
  8. It certainly does slow things, and in many cases the attrition rate is insurmountable, but there are a whole swath of boutique minis games out there, some whose parent companies are long dead, which continue to see regular play in many areas. Epic 40k, for example, for which official models have not been available for years, has an oddly thriving worldwide playerbase. Obviously that's partially due to its strong IP, but the fact remains that minis games exist in a weird intersection of game and hobby, so when people invest time and love into an army it can gain legs beyond its actual support. I'm not trying to argue that the end of official support won't hurt the playerbase, but existing metas will be able to weather it to some extent.
  9. Great stuff. Errata: Entering terrain when already in contact RRG 55.3 already provides a way to resolve a collision for cases like this, so technically this should be more of an FAQ item than an errata, but it being pointed out is definitely good. FAQ: Assigning accuracy to a one-rank unit I'd prefer to be able to target models without accuracy in these cases, simply because it works more like you'd expect. If it 1) is in the back rank and 2) wouldn't split the unit then you're good to go is the simple explanation, though I guess 2) is in a tray that, if removed, would split the unit isn't THAT much worse.
  10. Let's just say that although your friend's perspective isn't quite unique, it's pretty close.
  11. We're creeping up on 50 responses, so I figured I'd wait to hit that.
  12. Yeahhh the theme of it really doesn't appeal to me, but in terms of helping him survive in a world with a terrible dial, it's pretty good. I will continue deliberating, see if inspiration strikes.
  13. 22 points and 4 trays of archers, you mean. Getting access to the upgrades is nice, and being able to fit in smaller terrain can sometimes be a big deal, but the fact remains that you're spending points on Ardus instead of on boots. That 2x1 unit is 4 damage from dropping to threat 1 and virtual irrelevance, which most ranged units can manage quite handily, whereas the 2x2 can weather anything but a spike from a 3 threat unit with Tempered. This is more true of melee units than ranged since they'll be up fighting, but certainly the feeling locally has been that the points are better spent on trays than on Ardus (outside of niche builds like double deathcaller).
  14. A source of dials and trays (with slots for common industry bases) would be a big help in getting people to play. A conversion kit for other fantasy armies to work in Runewars.
  15. That's quite clever! In my mind, daqan, waiqar, and latari are pretty close in overall strength, with uthuk leading by a decent chunk. Waiqar has rough internal balance issues, but the rest are mostly alright. I'm working on a playtest package, might be too ambitious, but it's mostly fairly gentle.
  16. Greg at rebel light works is working on some kits to replace ffg op as well, I'm sure he could help!
  17. Coiled Stance reminds me: how many points would you pay for Visored Helms? It's kinda perfect for Golems. 5? 4? Training would be nice, it just doesn't fit thematically very well. Similarly, Scout would really help Golems do what they want to do, but makes no sense.
  18. Yeah, fair enough. Thing is his dial is already pretty bad and awkward to use, so forcing him to spend his action to activate an ability feels bad. Have you played with Hawthorne much? He's got a cool and useful ability, but it doesn't feel all that good to use because it grounds him so hard. Now Hawthorne has an amazing dial and is quite good at catching up on turn two, but Ardus needs absolutely every action available to him. Plus, I think there's a reasonable contingent of people that want their cool armored skeleton commander to get stuck in and do some chopping, so forcing such a hard choice doesn't appeal to me. Needing to stay at range 3 of Ardus is indeed a choice that has to be planned around. Rather than choosing whether to dial in the powerful thing, you have to choose your maneuvers in such a way that he's close enough to both the units you want to buff and the units that buff him. It's possible that range 3 isn't correct for making that an interesting gameplay mechanic, but it's a start. You're not wrong about the under-utilized skill action, but it's also largely an artifact of core set game design. You can see that on more modern heroes, powerful skill actions come on the modifier dial, so it certainly seems like they abandoned the idea of dials like Ardus and Kari. And it still CAN be used for scenario objectives and such (though low initiative is explicitly bad for seize the artifacts at least). So, I want it to be a static ability because I want to be moving him into a better position or fighting with him literally every turn (or really, I want my opponent to do so) and because I want to add an explicit, deliberate boost to his power level.
  19. Hm, when the golem charges it makes fine sense, but I feel less good about the theme of the golem being charged and handing out a stun. Plus, it feels weirdly doubled up with the skill action and copy/pasted from Scions... As for gameplay, it certainly wouldn't hurt, though if a golem is getting charged it almost assuredly needs to armor up next turn. Nice on the charge, but those are tough to set up. Overall, I think I prefer a pure damage buff in the vein of reroll 1 die if there are at least two natural runes. Loops that third rune in like it seems it should.
  20. Hm, why should it be a skill action? What if he just gives lethal 1 to other allies at range 1-3 all the time? Be an interesting foil to the way he borrows surge abilities. I wonder how that would be with a gunline. Host of crows lets you take fire rune on 2x1 reanimate archers, and we already know double dipping on lethal is good...
  21. For those familiar with Warhammer Fantasy, I always expected waiqar to get something like danse macabre. For reference, it is a spell that lets a unit March straight ahead, and counts as a charge if it impacts. This was the foil to the shambling undead's slow speed. You could argue that it's a better fit for ankaur, but it's also a command that is unique to the game and suits ardus fairly well. Say, a unit gets a speed two march which counts as a charge but doesn't give panic for failing to contact. Initiative two is a very awkward time for that though, so it may not be worth much...
  22. I think I'll let it sit for a week or so, then work on a set of recommendations for playtesting. Probably 1-2 things per army, small changes. Tell your friends to vote!
  23. I don't immediately love it. I think it's fairly rare that I get more than one unit at range 2 of a golem, so I think this is closer to a nerf than a buff. That said, it's an interesting direction to take them, with more utility. Something I'm also trying to keep in mind is the theme of the unit. Golems look like they're slow, tough, and devastating in melee, so those are the areas I'm currently concentrating.
  24. I definitely agree on the I7, that introduces a bunch of cool gameplay. Warsprinter introduces a bunch of very good action economy, and it's very difficult to add sensible restrictions without also stripping the stuff that makes it good. I wonder if it just needs to cost 7-8 points, make it a real risk to take. Then again one of the things I'm complaining about is how swingy it is in tournament play, so that doesn't really help that issue! It's awkward, but how about this: "When you reveal your dial, you may perform a speed-[unstable] march. If you do, cancel your modifier dial." It eliminates the reform+charge, but is probably too limiting when combined with the proposed Aggressive change, and also opens the possibility of charge+attack, which might be even worse than the current combo! Also charge+disengage. Yeah, let's not do this.
  25. Host of Crows is tough, because it enables builds and saves points. At present, I believe you're always better off spending Ardus's points on the larger unit when you want those higher upgrade tiers, because he personally is so weak. He should be at least pretty good in specific builds. If we assume the dial is off-limits, these are my favourite ideas: Plain old points drop. If he started at 32 or so, he would feel much better. A commander ability in the vein of Prince Faolan (Etharyon of the Ailatar) or Th'Uk Tar. His skill is on his left dial so he's worse at it, and it feels a bit silly to have a similar ability in three of four factions, but it is thematic. I do not think it should violate initiative order so severely as having the unit activate next. Make him tougher! He can't outmaneuver anyone, so he may as well be able to take a hit. Plus, if he gets +1 defense flat, he can take Shield of Margath, and that's an interesting item and role. An aura buff. He already has a strong theme of army synergy, so imagine "other friendly units at range 1-3 gain Lethal 1." Makes bunching up around him more rewarding, changes the calculus of list building (MSU takes advantage of the lethal better), and suits his theme. I should also note that I think Waiqar as a faction is a bit weak, and being propped up by Vorun'thul.
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