Caleb writes me an answer to my question by mail. To trigger "leave play"-moments a card must physically moved out of play .. same for come into play. So no, Sword-thain does not trigger such reaktions for a leaving ally.

@Lecitadin & Grandspleen: youre right .. but after "promoting" your ally to hero status your quantity of heroes is increased and of your allies is decreased. So someone could interpret that an ally has left play and a hero has joined play, right?

the card has not physically left play, that's right, but with sneak attack you bring an ally into play, with sword thain you change the card type from ally to hero, after that the ally is no longer in play... so where is the ally when he does not leave play? Changing the cardtype from ally to hero feels a little like ally X leaves play and hero X joins play without doing it physically. after some thoughts about this, i think using the resonse of Valiant Sacrifice could be legal but using Horn of Gondor will not, because the character itself is still in play.

Hi folks, perhaps you can help me with some rulings about Schwert-Than (Sword-thain) in another thread Caleb was quoted that an ally which is put into play by Sneak attack and then switched to be a hero by Sword-thain must not get back into your hand because the ally played by Sneak attack is no longer in play. As a result of this quote .. the ally leaves play somehow, right? so, what about using responses which triggers if a character or ally leaves play? can i use such responses if Sword-Thain is used? e.g. Heldenhaftes Opfer (Valiant Sacrifice) Horn von Gondor (Horn of Gondor) Éomer (Éomer)

tricky .. without the cancel effect i would say 2 resources. But as cmabr002 says .. it feels like quick ears and wingfoot.

Nice idea, but how do you shuffle such a playercard into your deck? .. a double-sided hero will work, but an ally? And .. if this Beorn Ally is in your Hand, which side do you play?

It's interesting... you need the truchsess first, then lord of morthond -> Dunedain hunter let you draw a card. to play sprit and lore cards you need Celebrian's Stone and Ring of Barahir attached to Aragorn .. now you can play Master of the forge to dig for your snares. A long way... Galadriel should help with this. For thread reduction aka Lore Aragorn i would take sneakattack with Gandalf. Perhaps you can delete some Master of force from the decklist because of the setup to play them.

It is a attachment limitation like "Limit 1 per character or hero" .. but now it's for a players thread dial so you can only have one of these attachments on your thread dial at a time.

I think Arwen with Song of Wisdom fits perfectly into this deck. I've tried it with Eowyn + Song of Wisdom (because my friend uses Galadriel in his silvan deck) and it was ok .. exhaust Eowyn + a not-discarded card by Silver Harp makes 5 WIL or 6 if my friend discards one. So, Willpower will be better. But instead you loose the opportunity to reduce your thread by Galadriel. Playing this deck without spirit will cause you to discard cards by Hama, which is not wanted. But playing with leadership will bring you more flexibilities like Sneak Mablung, Steward and Tighten your belts. Perhaps using a dwarf like Gloin or Balin with Narvi's Belt could be good.

This was my intention by playing only one more attack. In worst case you have a stack of attacks to resolve but the game instructs you to discard all shadow cards before the next attack get resolved.. so how remember? i thought the game has no memory ..

Doomed is the magic word ...

Thanks Mazarbul, very nice action.

You get a card spoiler of his ability? Can you share it?

Thanks.... then we played it wrong.

Not sure, if my question fits into this topic ... played The Antlered Crown and an enemy got Raven Village as a shadowcard, which adds two more shadowcards from the ravendeck to the enemy. Both new shadowcards are dunland berserkers which reads: Shadow: Attacking enemy makes an additional attack after this one. Question: How many attacks make the enemy after his first? We ruled one, because both cards say "makes an additional attack after this one" .. "makes an additional attack."

If i understand the VoI-rulesheet correctly you do not have to refresh the time counters after the last counter is removed .. except the effect instructs you to do so?

- 3x Campfire Tales - 3x Herald of Anorien - 1x Celebrian's Stone - 1x Visionary Leadership - 1x Steward of Gondor And you have the 50 cards

The "Resticted"-Keyword and the limitation "Limit 1 Mount per character" should apply to all Mounts currently in the game and for the future. Or.. do you remember Eomer above Firefoot and a Rohan Warhorse?

Mmm .. is there an offical statement that you can't play an ally or attachment by Vilya? You only put an ally or attachment into play?

But 3 copies of test of will and feint?

So.. problems solved... try 1 and 3.

We got multiple scenarios in which enemies engage and attack in the questphase - cloak is perfect for this.

.. another question about Silver Harp and Emery. If i have to discard her in reference to her Action ( i have discarded some non-spirit-cards) .. can i get her back into my hand by using the silver harp? I think not .. because she left my hand, lies on the table and gets discarded... right?

No problem .. i have no work todo yet .. its on Frank to make my decks visible for you

Nice.. can you edit your deck above?