Ok, I understand all your opinions. What bothers me is that I spend 450 $ per Set, and after a year or two the set rotates out, what means you can't play it and you can't sell it, because you are not allowed to play it. So it is worthless. So I technically throw 450 $ out of the window. Yeah maybe there will be a legacy format. I would like the idea. I know that magic has a lot of different formats. Including one with rotation, modern which is without rotation and a few more. Yu-Gi for example has no rotation just a banned list. Maybe it is necessary but it doesn't feel good to me.

Hey guys, A guy told me that FFG decided to rotate sets out after two years, is that true? I really love the game but I don't wanna spend thousands of bucks just to realize that older sets aren't playable anymore after a specific time. Do you have any informations for me about that? I really hope they are going to balance things with a banned list if necessary. What do you guys think?

The HWK and Y-wing can carry turrets; why aren't they dangerous to a Phantom? And I've flown the Firespray successfully against Phantoms several times. I'm more willing to believe the Phantom is the problem then that C-3PO has single-handedly unbalanced the game, but I still don't completely buy it. If it were a Rock-Paper-Scissors situation, where the Phantom is difficult to beat and has just a single hard counter, then where are the counters to Han that we all know exist? Because while Falcons are keeping the Phantom mostly suppressed, there's an opportunity to be exploited, and no one is doing it. The phantom has cloaked 4 defense die and even if you hit you'll deal 1 damage with an ion turret. That isn't enough while there are lot of TIE-Fighter around it. The Blaster Turret can theoretical deal 3 damage but a combo to make use of this is very expensive. Sure there are builds out there to kill those lists, featuring Wedge, Wes or other high PS ships. The trick is to win against both lists, fat Han and common Whisper, without using Han or Whisper yourself. I can't see a Strategie wich can do that, without very hot dice. Btw I didn't try it, but I fear rebel aces will bring us more fat Han pain. Han Solo 46 Gunner 5 MF 1 EU 4 C-3PO 2x Green Squadron Pilot 19 C. Refit -2 PTL 3

The HWK and Y-wing can carry turrets; why aren't they dangerous to a Phantom? And I've flown the Firespray successfully against Phantoms several times. I'm more willing to believe the Phantom is the problem then that C-3PO has single-handedly unbalanced the game, but I still don't completely buy it. If it were a Rock-Paper-Scissors situation, where the Phantom is difficult to beat and has just a single hard counter, then where are the counters to Han that we all know exist? Because while Falcons are keeping the Phantom mostly suppressed, there's an opportunity to be exploited, and no one is doing it. The phantom has cloaked 4 defense die and even if you hit you'll deal 1 damage with an ion turret. That isn't enough while there are lot of TIE-Fighter around it. The Blaster Turret can theoretical deal 3 damage but a combo to make use of this is very expensive. Sure there are builds out there to kill those lists, featuring Wedge, Wes or other high PS ships. The trick is to win against both lists, fat Han and common Whisper, without using Han or Whisper yourself. I can't see a Strategie wich can do that, without very hot dice.

Sorry for the bad English, but I have to say it. I know fat Han is the scapegoat this days. I think the real problem is the phantom, fat Han is just the answer to the phantom. There are a lot of natural counters out there, which can stop Han. A well flown TIE swarm for example, oh wait, it'll be reaped by the phantom A well flown XXBB or XXXX list will eat the falcon, oh wait those lists get punished by the phantom. In my opinion the phantom is the real problem, not because it has four attack die but it is crazy maneuverability. Natural counter to this is fat Han. I hate the phantom because we won't see a lot of ships again in competitive play. Most of the non-turret ships get raped by whisper, and that is very sad. The Advanced is absolutely dead, HWK and Y-Wing are nearly dead, A-Wing is hard to play, TIE Bomber is hard to play, Shuttle is hard to play, Firespray get smoked by the phantom. A perfectly flown phantom can easily kill 2 - 3 other small ships from the list above. So know we have the option, to get raped by the phantom, or play Han and that's it. I say not, you can't win with an other list than super Han, but I say you'll have a very hard time against whisper. Generally I think a new wave should offer more options to the players and not limit the options like W4 did. Just my two cents.

...when you have a lot sheets of paper at work scratched full with just numbers, because you know the point cost of every single card. It looks like "a beautiful mind". XD

Ok, this thread motivated me, to build a squad around the defender. I never played it before, since I was sure it is not competitive. I'll give it a second chance and a closer look.

I'm absolutely exited. I think the star viper is totally awesome, but I'm a little happier about the Y-Wing, nice to see that this beautiful ship gets a second chance.

I'm really unhappy about the current meta, phantom or falcon seems the only choice. Very glad to see that someone won with Ibtisam.

wow, Talk about a list of squads that lets the Phantom rule. 7 of the 16 list featured the Phantom while only two 360 Turret ships made the top 16. There seems to be not much resistance to the Phantom in this event . I would love to see a break down of all the squads that were played that day. It would seem very few YT-1300 were played. 5 of the top were list that the #3 list could have done well against. what a truly disappointing decision they made to not play the championships rounds. The lack of a single elimination bracket may have contributed to these standings. Absolutely, I got third place with Han. I got sine really worse pairings. Two times against triple BH, I lost a game against triple bounty hunter which is the natural enemy of every falcon list. I got only 2 Phantom matchups what was sad, because Han eats them. But I'm happy with my regionals results, I could win 2 of 5. (Place 2,1,1,3,3). A single elimination is in my opinion the only option when there are more than 32 player.

Nürnberg Germany, 6 rounds of Swiss, no final cut (sadly). I played: Han + VI + MF + EU + Chewbacca + Gunner 3 Tala 3rd place. Nobody has won all 6 games, I got 25 points with 4 other players.

Negativ, just 4 rounds of swiss.

Thanks. 4th place: Lando with Gunner and EH Chewbacca with Gunner and EH 3rd place: Wedge with Swarm Tactics Biggs Two Blue Squadron Pilots

Berlin,Germany, there were only 15 player. I won the event, with Howlrunner, 5 Academy Pilots and a Scimitar Bomber with an Assault Missile. Second place, was Luke with DTF and R2-D2, Biggs and two Rookie Pilots. Some other Lists I can remember: 3 Bounty Hunter 3 Omicron with APL 1 Omicron with Darth Vader, APL and Gunner. Wedge Biggs with R2-D2 2 Rookie Pilot

You are missing one. 21.06.2014 Berlin, Germany. Store: Funtainment Berlin.