The discussion is not for everyone but rest assured that we get back to more familiar territory after the flight deck with some good talk about the Mist Hunter and then the rest of The Force Awakens.
It was how it was conducted that bothered me. I'll eventually get bored and go back to it I'm sure.
As I said earlier in the Thread, I felt a little blindsided by the topic on the show as we had no prep for it like we would have if it were a regular segment not a part of the flight deck, no ones fault but the choice was to either only put one side across or to try to present counter points and a chose the latter.
Right. I agree with you. You did the right thing. It was the talking over and cutting others off that bothered me. Most of this was bob being a bit to shall we say eager to make his point.
Well, frankly, that is because often others were attempting to make a counter argument that didn't understand the point Bob was making. He was (I think) attempting to say "you didn't understand what I said, so let's not go down that direction". Or, he could have sat there while Sean droned on and on for 45 minutes, because basically the entire cast spoke about how wrong he was while he said very little. (As a side note: For **** sake, somebody interrupt Sean every once in a while).
Sorry, I've been catching up on podcasts, and realize I'm bringing up a week old thread... but this really bothered me too. I actually enjoyed the back and forth between Bob and Kris, as I thought they were making interesting points and counterpoints. While I do appreciate Sean's perspective as a TO on the amount of work involved, I reached the point where I just kept skipping ahead 10 seconds at a pop hoping not to hear Sean's voice. I've been hesitant to say anything because I don't like to call out one person, but I felt like he was basically lecturing Bob about how he should just get over it. It was almost like Sean was feeding off of Kris' energy, trading 1-2 punches. I took Kris' argument to be more "the small instances where it would have an impact don't make it worth the trouble it would cause," where as once Sean sank his teeth into this rather ironic idea (considering how much the rules have changed since the game started) that you shouldn't try to improve the rules, he just wouldn't let it go, and just kept lecturing Bob and the rest of us about accepting imperfection because that's just how things are - which to me, didn't seem to be Kris' point at all, and didn't add much to the discussion - but consumed a lot of it.
And I feel bad critiquing Sean directly, but honestly, it has made it hard to listen to the rest of the episode...
I have to say many of the above posts echoes my own feelings exactly, but I'm not sure they go far enough. I have been listening to Nova since the beginning, you guys have been one of my favorite podcasts for a long time. I apologize if this sounds harsh, but in my opinion the last few episodes have been way below your usually high standards. I have 2 major issues with the cast that are causing me to consider removing it from my listening queue.
1) The last 2 or 3 episodes I have been have been actively skipping through the parts of the podcast when Sean is talking. He NEEDS to find a way to be more concise with his thoughts, and make sure he has something new to add to the discussion. At this point you can listen to the first sentence he says, fast forward 5 minutes, and feel confident the only thing you missed was him saying the same thing over and over with a slight re-wording.
2) I cannot for the life of me figure out why Kris feels the need to attack EVERYTHING Bob says. For the millionth time we all already know MathWing isn’t a perfect representation of the actual competitive value of a ship, to my knowledge Bob has never claimed it to be. His sharp angry tone while arguing against Bob's competitive scoring suggestion was bizarre and unprovoked. It’s not simply that Kris disagrees with Bob and is playing devil’s advocate for entertainment value (or if he is then it isn’t working), his attacks consistently sound personal in nature and way over-the-top. It has gotten to the point where I can almost feel Bob’s frustration oozing out of my car stereo as he patiently explains, over and over again, the point he is trying to make while Kris spews vitriol and counter-arguments that indicate he doesn’t understand what Bob is trying to say and it makes him angry. It feels like there are some behind the scenes issues between the two of them that keep spilling over into the podcast.
At this point I am torn as to what to do. I like Ed, Chris, and the gang and both understand and appreciate the work they put into the podcast. But currently the only reason to listen is to hear Bob talk or hope and pray that Paul Heaver makes an appearance. After listening to this specific episode I thought for sure it would be Bob’s last. I honestly don’t understand why he puts up with how he is treated. If I were in his shoes I would move to another podcast with people who can engage him on a similar intellectual level instead of railing against his attempts to move the competative X-Wing community forward by helping analyze ship point values and exploring ways to improve tournament rules.
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