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Electris got a reaction from twincast in You lost me at $175
I agree the price is too steep. My opinion could change once I know more. But based on what I’ve seen I would spend $100 tops for this product.
Not a big fan of the character artwork either but if the game is fun enough I could work past that.
But that price point. Yikes!
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Electris reacted to rugal in Hmm. Yay?
I did ! Constructive criticism is simple, here you are again ...
1 - Art is ugly, even if some like it, but more than hero art, cards templates, item, and all are really from an old age, and tiles are disapointing. When seeing the terrain and cards, it reminds me of old video games with big tiles set with big pixels and nothing really immerging and art that not even correspond with the game art itself. Miniatures and art are like they comme from different games
2 - App games are either random events with some buffs and race game or either like smart phone game with miniatures to retain position. App should be able to have a real IA, retain miniatures position, health and all to give a real challenge, something only an app can do and for what I saw it could be cards so useless and then should be
3 - Carton 3d objets are fragile, ugly, and useless. Even Mantic's Dungeon saga for 50$ was full of plastic 3d pieces, not to mention that build and unbuild it will broke it if not just by being pressed on inside the box ... These objects remind me of Minecraft style and I cannot stand it, we are on 2020, not in 1980 ...
4 - 3d terrain will break after many play because mini are heavy for just carton things so for 175$, the game will die soon and be no more playable
5 - Having an app knowing all (monster health, attack results of your dice, etc ...) and you nothing as a player may be fun for some but is a pain to me, I'm just like a slave to a game that is omniscient where I'm blind. So, just roll dice, tell the app, then apply results. You see this as "playing" ? I see this as being a useless spectator
6 - Miniatures looks great but I want to see final product, and on top of that, even if I can see good finition, I'm not impressed by many choices (bases, poney tail uthuks ...). Let's say this is personnal things ...
7 - Flipping cards over with differents status is really boring to me, I don't see the idea to it. Seriously, that's boring and a bit complicated and frustrating for nothing really fun. Games should not have mechanics where you manipulate things over and over because it is boring and you forget important rules, make mistakes, and lost track of your tactics
8 - Rules are nothing compared to Descent and game are nothing connected so they should had different names and exist as differents game line. If you know how to play descent, then forget it all, this game as not a simple word connected with ! So why are they both shame the name Descent since not the rules nor the component may be mixed except universe ? Should be another name then !
9 - 175€ dollar is overpriced ! Dungeon Saga had the same amount of components for less than half of the price (areound 50$), needed no app, had a solo play using Overlord card and really simulating an Overlord, where Descent cannot do such
10 - All of my gamer's group hated the game when I presented it to them. It's not as if I was the only one : all ! 10 members ! So, none ever played with me, even begging so I had to test it alone, and all abandonned me when the test time was here. All of them, ten people, and I was really excited at that time, really, until I play ...
Happy with that ?
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Electris reacted to GrandAdmiralCrunch in Hmm. Yay?
Wow. Any enthusiasm I might have had after the sneak peak just evaporated.
The character art is ugly with a capital U. I don't care for this style at all.
App mandatory. No. The great thing about a board game is that it is should be playable straight off the shelf. No power? Light some candles and play. No internet? Cardboard don't need it. Can't find a device that has that specific app, or it needs to update, or just isn't supported anymore? Shouldn't matter with a straight analog game.
$175. One Hundred Seventy Five BUCKS?!?! What are they smoking? No Fraking way
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Electris got a reaction from Zaltyre in Looks like FFG is getting us a new Road to Legend campaign
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
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Electris got a reaction from subtrendy2 in Looks like FFG is getting us a new Road to Legend campaign
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
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Electris got a reaction from twincast in The Future of 2nd Edition
I have to agree with Sidious: I too prefer physical content. Seems like Gloomhaven is the popular game this year. My group will be running thru Gloomhaven starting this Christmas break. Until Descent comes out with more 2nd edition content we won't revisit it.
I won't be on board with a Descent 3rd edition. I've gone thru 1st and 2nd edition Descent and I feel 2nd edition is incomplete. Several heroes are missing from the conversion update. I was expecting more classes too. The app is nice but is not a substitute. If 2nd edition does not get more content I will not trust FFG to treat a 3rd edition any differently. Which is a shame because I was starting to purchase more Imperial Assault content but honestly IA is following a similar pattern of slowing down in content production.
I realize the IA App came out recently and I've seen the old-as-time-itself argument of "The company is busy focusing on <insert product here> and therefore not Descent or IA." That argument is irrelevant to the point. They can choose to focus on specific products and I can choose to keep my wallet closed and open it for another company that continues to focus on a product that performed well. Look at all the posts for Descent compared to other games. This isn't one of the less popular games by any means. They need to invest more into it instead of asking customers to jump ship to another one of their products.
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Electris got a reaction from InfinityBlack14 in The Future of 2nd Edition
I have to agree with Sidious: I too prefer physical content. Seems like Gloomhaven is the popular game this year. My group will be running thru Gloomhaven starting this Christmas break. Until Descent comes out with more 2nd edition content we won't revisit it.
I won't be on board with a Descent 3rd edition. I've gone thru 1st and 2nd edition Descent and I feel 2nd edition is incomplete. Several heroes are missing from the conversion update. I was expecting more classes too. The app is nice but is not a substitute. If 2nd edition does not get more content I will not trust FFG to treat a 3rd edition any differently. Which is a shame because I was starting to purchase more Imperial Assault content but honestly IA is following a similar pattern of slowing down in content production.
I realize the IA App came out recently and I've seen the old-as-time-itself argument of "The company is busy focusing on <insert product here> and therefore not Descent or IA." That argument is irrelevant to the point. They can choose to focus on specific products and I can choose to keep my wallet closed and open it for another company that continues to focus on a product that performed well. Look at all the posts for Descent compared to other games. This isn't one of the less popular games by any means. They need to invest more into it instead of asking customers to jump ship to another one of their products.
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Electris got a reaction from alexbobspoons in The Future of 2nd Edition
I have to agree with Sidious: I too prefer physical content. Seems like Gloomhaven is the popular game this year. My group will be running thru Gloomhaven starting this Christmas break. Until Descent comes out with more 2nd edition content we won't revisit it.
I won't be on board with a Descent 3rd edition. I've gone thru 1st and 2nd edition Descent and I feel 2nd edition is incomplete. Several heroes are missing from the conversion update. I was expecting more classes too. The app is nice but is not a substitute. If 2nd edition does not get more content I will not trust FFG to treat a 3rd edition any differently. Which is a shame because I was starting to purchase more Imperial Assault content but honestly IA is following a similar pattern of slowing down in content production.
I realize the IA App came out recently and I've seen the old-as-time-itself argument of "The company is busy focusing on <insert product here> and therefore not Descent or IA." That argument is irrelevant to the point. They can choose to focus on specific products and I can choose to keep my wallet closed and open it for another company that continues to focus on a product that performed well. Look at all the posts for Descent compared to other games. This isn't one of the less popular games by any means. They need to invest more into it instead of asking customers to jump ship to another one of their products.
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Electris got a reaction from tibia in The Future of 2nd Edition
I have to agree with Sidious: I too prefer physical content. Seems like Gloomhaven is the popular game this year. My group will be running thru Gloomhaven starting this Christmas break. Until Descent comes out with more 2nd edition content we won't revisit it.
I won't be on board with a Descent 3rd edition. I've gone thru 1st and 2nd edition Descent and I feel 2nd edition is incomplete. Several heroes are missing from the conversion update. I was expecting more classes too. The app is nice but is not a substitute. If 2nd edition does not get more content I will not trust FFG to treat a 3rd edition any differently. Which is a shame because I was starting to purchase more Imperial Assault content but honestly IA is following a similar pattern of slowing down in content production.
I realize the IA App came out recently and I've seen the old-as-time-itself argument of "The company is busy focusing on <insert product here> and therefore not Descent or IA." That argument is irrelevant to the point. They can choose to focus on specific products and I can choose to keep my wallet closed and open it for another company that continues to focus on a product that performed well. Look at all the posts for Descent compared to other games. This isn't one of the less popular games by any means. They need to invest more into it instead of asking customers to jump ship to another one of their products.
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Electris got a reaction from Gridash in The Future of 2nd Edition
I have to agree with Sidious: I too prefer physical content. Seems like Gloomhaven is the popular game this year. My group will be running thru Gloomhaven starting this Christmas break. Until Descent comes out with more 2nd edition content we won't revisit it.
I won't be on board with a Descent 3rd edition. I've gone thru 1st and 2nd edition Descent and I feel 2nd edition is incomplete. Several heroes are missing from the conversion update. I was expecting more classes too. The app is nice but is not a substitute. If 2nd edition does not get more content I will not trust FFG to treat a 3rd edition any differently. Which is a shame because I was starting to purchase more Imperial Assault content but honestly IA is following a similar pattern of slowing down in content production.
I realize the IA App came out recently and I've seen the old-as-time-itself argument of "The company is busy focusing on <insert product here> and therefore not Descent or IA." That argument is irrelevant to the point. They can choose to focus on specific products and I can choose to keep my wallet closed and open it for another company that continues to focus on a product that performed well. Look at all the posts for Descent compared to other games. This isn't one of the less popular games by any means. They need to invest more into it instead of asking customers to jump ship to another one of their products.
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Electris got a reaction from benskywalker in The Delve
Seems ludicrous to expect a company to continue to pour resources into developing an app and then offer it for free. They offered the initial base for free so players could see if they like it. But further enhancements would obviously not be free. I thought it was very generous for FF to offer the base app for free. The net effect of more people buying the game and expansions is irrelevant; FFG invested resources into the app and therefore they charge for app addons. It's quite simple. And the opinion of "I'm not paying for it because digital should be free", while not grounded in reality, is your right to choose. I'm certain if you hold that opinion that you also never purchase PC or console games as well. Because those are also digital content. And whether those purchases accompany physical board games is also irrelevant: you paid for digital content.
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Electris got a reaction from maxam in The Delve
Seems ludicrous to expect a company to continue to pour resources into developing an app and then offer it for free. They offered the initial base for free so players could see if they like it. But further enhancements would obviously not be free. I thought it was very generous for FF to offer the base app for free. The net effect of more people buying the game and expansions is irrelevant; FFG invested resources into the app and therefore they charge for app addons. It's quite simple. And the opinion of "I'm not paying for it because digital should be free", while not grounded in reality, is your right to choose. I'm certain if you hold that opinion that you also never purchase PC or console games as well. Because those are also digital content. And whether those purchases accompany physical board games is also irrelevant: you paid for digital content.
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Electris got a reaction from Daedalus in The Delve
Seems ludicrous to expect a company to continue to pour resources into developing an app and then offer it for free. They offered the initial base for free so players could see if they like it. But further enhancements would obviously not be free. I thought it was very generous for FF to offer the base app for free. The net effect of more people buying the game and expansions is irrelevant; FFG invested resources into the app and therefore they charge for app addons. It's quite simple. And the opinion of "I'm not paying for it because digital should be free", while not grounded in reality, is your right to choose. I'm certain if you hold that opinion that you also never purchase PC or console games as well. Because those are also digital content. And whether those purchases accompany physical board games is also irrelevant: you paid for digital content.
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Electris got a reaction from any2cards in The Delve
Seems ludicrous to expect a company to continue to pour resources into developing an app and then offer it for free. They offered the initial base for free so players could see if they like it. But further enhancements would obviously not be free. I thought it was very generous for FF to offer the base app for free. The net effect of more people buying the game and expansions is irrelevant; FFG invested resources into the app and therefore they charge for app addons. It's quite simple. And the opinion of "I'm not paying for it because digital should be free", while not grounded in reality, is your right to choose. I'm certain if you hold that opinion that you also never purchase PC or console games as well. Because those are also digital content. And whether those purchases accompany physical board games is also irrelevant: you paid for digital content.
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Electris got a reaction from cdj0902 in The Delve
Seems ludicrous to expect a company to continue to pour resources into developing an app and then offer it for free. They offered the initial base for free so players could see if they like it. But further enhancements would obviously not be free. I thought it was very generous for FF to offer the base app for free. The net effect of more people buying the game and expansions is irrelevant; FFG invested resources into the app and therefore they charge for app addons. It's quite simple. And the opinion of "I'm not paying for it because digital should be free", while not grounded in reality, is your right to choose. I'm certain if you hold that opinion that you also never purchase PC or console games as well. Because those are also digital content. And whether those purchases accompany physical board games is also irrelevant: you paid for digital content.
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Electris got a reaction from player1454394 in The Delve
Out of everything I've seen this far for 2nd edition I am most excited about this. I am curious how the story telling will fare but the 2 hour randomized mini campaign looks awesome.
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/9/30/delving-deep/
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Electris got a reaction from benskywalker in The Delve
Out of everything I've seen this far for 2nd edition I am most excited about this. I am curious how the story telling will fare but the 2 hour randomized mini campaign looks awesome.
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/9/30/delving-deep/
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Electris got a reaction from keschnell in The Delve
Out of everything I've seen this far for 2nd edition I am most excited about this. I am curious how the story telling will fare but the 2 hour randomized mini campaign looks awesome.
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/9/30/delving-deep/
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Electris got a reaction from Fallenone2016 in The Delve
Out of everything I've seen this far for 2nd edition I am most excited about this. I am curious how the story telling will fare but the 2 hour randomized mini campaign looks awesome.
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/9/30/delving-deep/
