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  1. While I agree it's a shame that Wiz-War is not more popular, it also isn't shocking that it lacks the interest fans believe it should have. In this day and age, games that have such direct confrontation aren't popular. This isn't a co-op or multi player solitaire game which typically gets lauded on sites such as BGG. It requires a bit more from players. It celebrates creativity of players within the design space. You have to know how the design works in order to play the game fluently. You also need to appreciate schadenfreude and a sense of humor at your own expense. Not a lot of contemporary games are like that, and not a lot of gamers enjoy this. Games like Survive! even struggle for popularity, and it requires far less from participants. It takes a particular brand of consumer as well. CCG players have an easier time acclimating since they are accustomed to using creativity within a design space to accomplish their goals. But even then, the first couple game are rough as you internalize the cards and the potential they offer. It's a lot more daunting for non CCG players. That's makes this a niche game within a niche market. But, FFG were confident enough in it to not only aquire the license from Chessex before it expired, but to produce 2 more expansions for the game. But it will be a shame for others, who much like you, found out that the game is quite good, only to find it out of print. All because more people didn't buy it enough and FFG decided to let it go out of production due to it not being as popular as Star Wars. [Edit] As for FFG's lack of promotion, this has long been an issue with FFG. They feed into what is already popular, not what needs help to become popular. All it takes is an occasional article posted on their site promoting older and/or less popular titles to possibly increase sales for an item. But they haven't done that as long as I recall. They promote only upon new release and then move on to the next thing thrown against the wall to see if it sticks without any help. It's frustrating, but that's how they seem to market stuff.
  2. I haven't played coc in 5 ish years and am shocked to see that they still haven't released them in pod. It's this sort of crap that killed the game in the first place. A lack of acknowledgement and respect for their customers and their own word. But they have star wars, so screw everything else.
  3. It seems fairly cut and dried. All cards are magic cards. But only neutral, attack and counter magic cards are spells. Energy and item magic cards are not spells. Thus, you cannot use dispel against an item.
  4. Judging how its been nearly two years since the last expansion was released, I'm sad to postulate that other expansions may never come. FFG are making too much money with Star Wars and other high profile IPs right now, add to that I assume it didn't sell well enough to warrant further expansions. Though I do know the base game has been sold out and reprinted and the malefic curses expansion is currently oop... Sad, since this is the only remaining game that FFG makes that still looms in my library. A critical favorite of ours as well. I don't really mourn the loss of a 6th player, but would really like some more spell cards. It could be print on demand for all I care, I just want more spells. As for your arena type of idea, maybe this idea created by Kuhrusty on BGG that I made into an optional rule card might do the trick? More of this type of stuff may be found HERE
  5. There has always been much discussion and corresponding opinions given in order to find a standardized way to play FFG's version of Wiz-War. The topic most often discussed that I have seen is which optional rules to include, and how to best construct the magic deck. While I haven't witnessed much in the way of a consensualy agreed upon standard for these topics, I have seen that the 'Big book of spells' optional rule be a pretty consistent recommendation. Mostly because of ease of setup. A common complaint I have seen in real life is that game setup should be simple in order for new gamers to buy then play a game. But as expansions are added, the unwieldy size and dilution of the deck becomes a problem. Even without expansions, dilution can be an issue. The following article is our groups attempt at addressing this issue, for new and veteran players alike. To form a single standardized magic deck of 85-100 cards following the content rubric found in the classic game, that still allows room to be tweaked similar to how FFG has set up their schools of magic. While also addressing some other common complaints; like too many counterspells, spell redundancy, and cards that seem too situational when used in such a large deck. Streamlined Magic Deck for Wiz-War There are a few other game tweaks for Wiz-War such as spellbook themed tuck boxes for cards, 3D hirst arts Wiz-War boards, random labyrinth generators, etc. that can be seen through this link: Wiz-War game pimps Constructive feedback is always welcome.
  6. +1. Agreed. I think the more generic that the utility options are in the magic cards, the better the overall play experience is. I enjoy cards that offer obstructions, and it would be nice to see a few more of those offered. Perhaps this is why I find the Conjuring school nearly compulsory in construction of the magic deck. I would like to see Animate Object brought back, to break the rule that you cannot create an object in the same square as another immovable object (like Glue does). A walking Stone Block, or Rosebush, etc. with little feet sticking out from underneath it would be not only humorous, but pretty fun. Items are rather rare in the expansions. I am ok with Relics playing a minor role as they are really powerful, but we could use a few more items and immoveable obstructions. My main gripe with how this is progressing is magic card redundancy. It's kind of a drag. For the price asked, I would hope they could offer a bit more than the same card nearly twice in each school. I know FFG can do better than that, especially with such a large pre-existing pool of classic cards to choose from. If there could be only one request that I was allowed to make of FFG in order to influence how its produced, it would be to stop the profane amount of card redundancy.
  7. It makes me wonder where future expansions will contain. I think its a safe bet that next expansion would be the sixth (and hopefully final) player. But that only covers that single facet of that expansion. What of the design space will they pursue? Will they dredge deeper into some fine older cards, or insist on completely new stuff like we saw in the totem school? You raise a good point that the transformations are lackluster, with creatures driving home how much so. I wouldn't be opposed to the werewolf and the golem being retconned a bit. The most actual useful transformations seem to be the big man and the gnome. There is some good design space still to explore, along with some brilliant cards from the past that can be brought back. I wish I were a fly on the wall to know what we can expect.
  8. I dunno. I don't find it so weird or unintuitive. Granted, this isn't really delineated as such in the rules, but I can see and agree with the stance that there is a distinction between actual movement, and movement points themselves. Such a clarification is certainly worthy of a faq entry in the future. I look at it like this thematically. A stunned wizard leans against a wall, clearly dazed. But still has enough mental fortitude to command a creature mentally under his geas to do his bidding, freeing up his mental reserves to cast an attack spell. But as you noted, its an official response, so even if it is disagreed with, it helps consistency in the community so that a good thing.
  9. I am 12 plays in with bestial forces. It really is a fantastic expansion. I'm not liking the totem school for certain types of play though, such as big book of spells. It gets too diluted, and for a school which relies on playing with itself to make its own effects culminate, it has a lackluster showing there. When using the FFG magic deck method, along with specialization (especially as a school chosen for specialization), it functions much better. Totem doesn't feel very wizwar to me, but that's ok. There should be something in the game catering to various tastes. The use of creatures is adding a new dimension that is really swingey to the game. The genie, as predicted, is a pain in the ass especially since we know that creatures get more hit points added to them from wizards cutting themselves in order to even to conjure them. The boggart is pretty fun too for certain strategies (strategy... heh... now there's a word you don't hear very often associated with wizwar). I believe that creatures have indeed added strategy to the game, in its own minimal fashion, especially combined with the specialization optional rule. It offers something for everyone. For the counterspell haters and lovers, for those who hate and love treasure running too. Adding a new dimension to play, yet still sticking largely with what makes wizwar so good already. It is leagues better than malefic curses, even at this early stage of experience with this expansion. Very fun. The only real criticism I have is that magic cards are _far_ too often duplicated inside the schools, so the novelty wears thin a bit with their predictabilty of draws within the decks(s), and a couple cards from the base set made it into this expansion adding further fuel to the duplication criticism. It doesn't suffer for that, but I feel ffg could have handled that better and thus a twinge of dissapointment creeps in. A definite must buy and I consider it a compulsory purchase.
  10. Full card list for bestial forces now available to peruse. Enjoy. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1225695/so-who-bought-bestial-forces-gen-con
  11. Glad to hear it lived up to your expectations based on your experience from previous editions.
  12. In fairness to FFG, even though CP has stated that all games get equal attention ( riiiiight) Descent, X-Wing, etc make way more cash for them and thus get more attention. I find that reasonable. I am just fricking happy that we have gotten two expansions for Wiz-War within the same year. But I wouldnt mind one last teaser before the (assumed) release near Gencon. They really do, do a lot for driving excitement for their games. Which makes one wonder if they promoted their other games as well as they do for Netrunner, Descent, etc. would they do better? Limited personel resources for marketing are a bugger to manage.
  13. You can put up a new preview for the bestial forces expansion anytime now, FFG. We won't mind this at all, I promise.
  14. 1) Rusty posted a great tongue in cheek review of the FFG edition from the perspective of a grumpy old change resistent codger that you might appreciate. 2) As rusty noted in his review, not owning Wiz-war is not a serious option. Or any option at all in my opinion. Better sooner than later.
  15. AUCodeMonkey said: I have to say that my biggest disappointment out of this set has to be the Cthulhu cards. I'm not a huge fan of the "sacrifice something to get your opponent to sacrifice something of theirs" tactic. I mean, c'mon, this is the Miskatonic expansion! They are the biggest thwarters of this mechanic in the game! You tell the missus to cry me a river over that one for me please? lol
  16. COCLCG said: obviously its been a while since anyones read the original response. it was direct critical analysis of the deck as he saw it cloaked in the cherry flavoured 'in my opinion'. but. whatever. go. read it again. tell me i'm wrong, once more. Yeah, I read it. I reread the entire thread in fact. Sounds like he has some pretty sage advice. It's a shame that you cannot get past not wanting anyone to have an 'opinion' (quoted as you like to do) on your deck about valid deck building strategies, that you think the poster is patronizing you. You share ideas. We share ideas. it is how it works. I am not sure exactly how you think his comments are patronizing, but since you do think they are, then it may be time to contemplate why you think they are so patronizing. Dated April 4th of 2012: COCLCG said: Hi guys. Ever since I saw the movie 'DAGON' when I was a kid I've been an Innsmouth fan. My first deck (that I made tonight - new to the game, not the genre) is definately an Innsmouth one. A 'Pure' Cthulhu deck with 6 neutrals. It's waaaaaaay different though. Would love to explain but I'm taking it to the Australian Championships on June 3rd but will definately let you know how I go and post the list after that. Wish my scaly one's the best! RE: Australian Nationals: COCLCG said: …there were only 3 of us (with 1 extra late arrival who then got to challenge the winner just to see if it would've mattered), so doesn't feel like i earned any accolades. we played a simple round robin until an evident winner was realised. with lady lucks help i went undefeated and then defeated the late challenger as well (mono - cthulhu)everyone seemed to have an enjoyable day, lots of banter about tactics and expanding the game down here, and we were quite happy to watch each others games and even lend advice in non critical situations. probably not to be regarded as a strict tournament under set conditions of FFG, but laid back is what we australians do best!!! With that in mind, you responded: COCLCG said: yeah. sorry. you just came over like someone being very condescending about what YOU would do and how YOU would change it, when youre talking to a national tournament winner here. i know how to build decks. i know the weaknesses and flaws. and i can use 'sub optimal' cards in ways you'd never dream of. So in the short span of 6 whole months, your decklists are so perfect that they are beyond comment in a public forum where you posted them? Because you won a tourney with 4 people in it? It is really hard not to think of your quote directly above in the terms the esteemed Mr. Wonka would remark on: People share ideas in order to learn and evolve. To deny such discourse is stagnation. I wont say you are 'wrong', but I will say that you are seriously mistaken and need to relax more. If you can see the pic above and at least laugh a little at yourself, then there is hope yet to stop taking yourself and other so seriously to see conflict around every corner. I really do beleive you have read more into it than was stated or intended. I would also say that this is a common trend for you and why we got off on the wrong foot originally even after defending you that people were telling you to stop posting decklists. But then again, likely not as your response is: "But. Whatever". You get as much respect as you give. Demanding it because you wont a tourney against 4 people after you have been playing for 6 months is not likely to garner you much sympathy.
  17. In this case, Pan overrides Campbell. Campbell states that Arcane icons are used to determine who wins a terror struggle, but Pan states that skill is used INSTEAD to determine all icon struggles.
  18. COCLCG said: Hellfury said: If you post your deck list here then expect discussion as that is the entire point of public fora. To discuss a topic. yeah. i think thats my problem, and im finally starting to realise it. i see the forum in a different light to others i guess. i post MY decks so that anyone who's interested in seeing whats being made can have a look. these are MY decks, and im not interested in what others would do to them as they are exactly that. MY decks. there is no room for opinions or discussion about what can be done to them, as then they would cease to be just that. if there's a problem, i'll come across it in game play and modify it based on my own decisions. so, now that the objective of forums has been explained to me ( this is my first and only one ive ever contributed to ), i'll cease posting decks as i can see that responses will be a problem for me and accept that this is my issue. i should have come to this conclusion last time i was posting decks and the same thing happened, but hey, i finally got the point. COCLCG said: Hellfury said: If you post your deck list here then expect discussion as that is the entire point of public fora. To discuss a topic. i post MY decks so that anyone who's interested in seeing whats being made can have a look. these are MY decks, and im not interested in what others would do to them as they are exactly that. MY decks. there is no room for opinions or discussion about what can be done to them, as then they would cease to be just that. Then there is little point to posting your decks in forums if all you want to do is quash discussion surrounding them. Which is odd because I have seen you bemoan the fact that nobody commented on some decks that you have posted in the past. So which is it then? Do you want to engage in discussion about the finer points of deck design and why you made those choices and why others would make different choices, or do you just want people to line up and congratulate you on a job well done throwing cards together? If you want people to just bask in your glory, then make a website that is read-only and display your stuff there. Make a blog and turn off the capacity for the public to make comments. That's the best suggestion I can give you if you don't want anyone remarking on your decklists other than to say how phenominal they are.
  19. dboeren said: As a native English speaker all my life (American though, not Australian as COCLCG), the word "opinion" doesn't carry any special meaning over here. It just means "that's what I think about something". Not offensive, not strong, and no hidden implications.I think the latter is what he's actually stuck on. He's imagining someone saying "in my opinion" in a smug voice, as if the speaker wishes to hint that his opinion is BETTER than everyone else's opinion. He started off on the wrong foot already when he stumbled on the word competitive and the mistook Konx's claim to be a good player as if it were a personal challenge. In that frame of mind, he went on to inject sarcasm that was not actually intended. It's a mistake, whether caused by paranoia or just being in the wrong mood when he read it. Just about everyone here is at least a pretty good player. This is not a highly populated forum. We wouldn't be here if we weren't really into the game, so it's a pretty safe assumption that anyone whose name you recognize as having been around for a while knows what they're doing. Suggestions from anyone you know here should be treated with respect, and it's really not necessary to try to compare who has more imaginary tournament points or whatever. Ideas should stand on their own merits, not on whether you think you outrank the person who said it. I agree with that entire post. An opinion is just that, someone's opinion. There are no nefarious implications. It's just an opinion, of which everyone is entitled to have. If you post your deck list here then expect discussion as that is the entire point of public fora. To discuss a topic. So I would not worry one iota about how you are communicating, Konx. COCLCG said: are you on drugs ?? ( or perhaps its that mind eater sucking out any rational thoughts from your brain ). And this is where communication breaks down. You made opinions and disagreed about a definition in a manner that could be discussed, then you just had to go an add this, as if the ad hominem somehow adds more validity to your assertion. Just do without the instigatory (not a real word, but it should be as it perfectly reflects the inflammatory) remarks, and then you are suddenly a contributing member whose views are valued. Your entire argument crumbles when such tactics are used, and for no point. The very same thing you accuse others of doing in this thread. Note, there is nothing hostile in my tone, nor in the way I have expressed myself. I am just expressing an opinion in a manner that can be debated. The only reason why I am adding my remark is to give my viewpoint and to help others understand. So please keep that in mind..
  20. That's a funny thread. Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory. I highly doubt it. He may make a lot of proud remarks about his association with Mr. Stone, but from my own occasional dealings with Damon at the FFG EC, I just don't see the connection. They communicate much differently. I am not sure why if he was at Arkham Nights that he did not play in the CoC tourney. It doesn't appear that he introduced himself to anyone as that username if he did go. I wasn't there the whole weekend though, only for the constructed CoC tourney. One thing those fish monger wives fail to take into consideration is that Damon would be risking his job if he was posting like that. From what Steve Horvath told me in person, the only people allowed to go chit chat like that without asking permission from Christian Peterson and Steve Horvath are Christian Peterson and Steve Horvath. Because of that, the likelihood of that conspiracy scenario is next to nil.
  21. Yipe said: My favorite is playing a Highlander deck against competitive standard-format decks. It's just so much fun, especially if I win, heh-heh. I have done this a few times by accident. Grabbing a deck without realizing it is highlander, only to realize that my tempo is waaaaaay off by the middle of the game. It is surprising how well I do sometimes with them. I groan at first, then I sit up straight and get into the mood for a real puzzle to solve, Testing the limits it has.
  22. Yipe said: In fact, I think the added challenge this variant provides made for some of the best Call of Cthulhu games I've had yet. This. I am obviously biased towards the highlander format with all the harping and proselytizing that I have done, but I really could not agree more.
  23. cmdrcody said: Harleequin said: Baphomet69 said: @Harleequin - your point is valid, but diminished by the attitude. Count to ten, man. Baphomet69 said: @Harleequin - your point is valid, but diminished by the attitude. Count to ten, man. As someone who owns an eBay store, works 2 part time jobs, and merchants other goods for a living on various websites, customers like this who feel self entitled to everything, and expects way to much, really bother me. What Ebay store is yours? I would like to know too, so I can avoid it as if it contained the black plague.
  24. Looks like it was a lot of fun. Makes me wish I lived in Seattle again. One of these days…
  25. Erratik said: I understand that FFG has stated that this was not a misprint and so forth… Actually they have admitted it was a misprint. They also said you can treat it as a miskatonic character if you so wish in your casual games. But for ease of play and to avoid confusion, he is now officially an agency character.
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