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  1. 2 hours ago, Darth Lupine said:

    This. I want a whole fleet. 

    Are you prepared to buy all new miniatures?

    I don't see how you can [reasonably for most people] simulate a whole fleet on the tabletop without reducing the scale. Make CR-90s a flotilla the size of a current squadron so that you can more easily bring the Star Dreadnoughts onto the table. At this scale, squadrons probably aren't modeled separately, they're just part of a capital ship's attack - would that be losing too much of the "Star Wars feel"?

    Also, what is the minimum you consider a fleet? The wikipedia article for naval fleet shows a picture of 10 ships. Was the First Order fielding a fleet in TLJ? Or does it have to be Battle of Endor/Coruscant size?
     


  2. 3 minutes ago, Lemmiwinks86 said:

    Sorry for my english, I think the correct expression is that "is in stores", right? I corrected it :)

    EDIT: also, if someone could explain what "is on stores" means it would be good for me to keep on learning

    "On" would generally mean it is physically sitting on top of something - i.e. on the roof of the store.


  3. 6 minutes ago, JgzMan said:

    In general I won't accept, "the rules don't say we can" without some kind of support.

    Umm... what?

    But... that's like... how ALL of the game rules work. The rules tell us what we CAN do. If the rules had to list everything that you CAN'T do, they would be larger than the collected Encyclopedia Brittanica. Multiple people have listed the exact section of the rulebook that details Command Dial and Token usage, that's the support.


  4. 3 minutes ago, Beatty said:

    Why do the same people make posts about something over and over? I guess because I was here at the beginning and I was fully involved in the large SSD thread and we hashed through it all. And that tread was started to stop the 3+ threads a week on SSD theories. It's an old topic played out to death. 

     

    So I find the fact that new threads appear every time the last one leaves the first page annoying and it's like a train wreck. And it's the same people making the posts.

     

    So I know the real intention has nothing to do with actual discussion at all, it's only brought up again and again because of the rumor that if a subject is brought up enough times on the forums FFG caves in and gives into the loudest voices. It a false rumor but I know these threads are only brought up again and again like a child who thinks if they beg long enough their parents will give in. And I Do Not Want A Sloppy Shotty Model With Game Breaking Rules Just To Make A Loud Minority Happy! That has always been my position and will remain so in every single SSD thread till they stop for an extended period of time. Like take 6 months off.

     

    So if the threads continue I will be keeping it real with the counter arguments. If the threads stop I stop. I never started a thread on SSD's ever so I'm not the one keeping this discussion going, I'm just saying things the pro-SSD crowd hates. 

    The subject line and the original post are perfectly clear. It is a hypothetical that people want to talk about. You didn't have to click on the thread, and you didn't have to insult everyone and call them whiny children. You've basically admitted that you're intentionally trolling just to be a jerk.


  5. 3 hours ago, Beatty said:

    What if the there never was a SSD release? Would these threads eventually stop? 

     

    Probably not. Dreamers will dream and the Executor will remain just out of reach. 

     

    Just a what If, because these what If threads Never Happen... like not by the same people. Ever! It doesn't seem desperate at all. Just a what If. And that's a capital I in If.

     

    (Seriously guys, we have several dozen threads on the SSD and mostly by the same people over and over. Why? I mean just why?)


    Why do you feel the need to show up to every SSD thread just to spit in people's cereal? Some people like talking about it. Let them. You don't have to participate. The OP was exceedingly clear in the first post.


  6. Up through Wave 2, Armada scale follows a logarithmic curve fairly closely. An SSD the size of a play mat would actually be way too big. An SSD that follow the already established scale (again, through Wave 2) would be slightly larger than the XWM CR-90.

    Not my opinion, talking about mathematics and crunching the numbers. Three day weekend coming up, maybe I'll finally measure all the wave 3+ ships and see how the scale graph shapes up...


  7. Relevant section of response I got from FFG software:

    We are aware of some issues with the Elder Sign: Omens store. We are currently in the process of updating this app to 64 bit, and the store fixes are being rolled into this update. I do not currently have an estimated release date, however it is planned to finish before the iOS 11 update.

    So, no immediate fix or workaround, but they know about it and are working on it.


  8. Wait... Tabletop Simulator is *more* user friendly than Vassal?

    When I played, it was **** near impossible to do some of the simplest tasks, and every piece on the board got knocked over or jostled around anytime anything was moved. The only control that seemed to work at all reliably was flip the table ><

    It has been a while though, did I just play a super old version of TTS and it's gotten way better since then? Because the thought of trying to play Armada with such a control scheme is only slightly more pleasant than that of pouring salt in my eyes.


  9. There is one type of scaling formula that makes sense for this application, and it is logarithmic. When I measured the ships, they conformed pretty closely to a logarthmic function (certainly closer overall than any linear function). I did the math before and don't remember the exact numbers, but I want to say the SSD would be in the 24-36" range. I haven't done the math since Wave 2 though, we have a lot more data points now.

    I could measure all the new ships and write up a post on the scaling of Armada based purely on facts and mathematics if people are interested.


  10. So without rereading all 62 previous pages lol...

    does anyone know how off-scale the other ships are? IE, the CR90 is clearly not to scale with the ISD...which one is off?

    Armada doesn't have a single linear scale like XWM (or two linear scales if you count the Epic ships).

    The ships up through Wave 2 followed a logarithmic curve fairly nicely, but I haven't taken measurements of all the new stuff and gone through the math again.


  11. I like it! It's a giant X-Wing :) Is there a gap left on the bottom from removal of the bottom piece?

    I was thinking about the Zentraedi color scheme (from Macross/Robotech) for the Assault Frigates and Mon Cals, but I want my fleet to match and I don't think the CR-90 or Neb-B make passable Zentraedi ships...


  12. I've been wondering how difficult / expensive it would be to make modular ships. There's the Immobilizer/Vindicator, and the Imperial could fill in the hangar bay to become a Tector pretty easily. It seems like it would just be a matter of not gluing a couple pieces together, but I'm sure it is more complicated in reality.

    I thought it would be awesome to have an Assault Frigate Mark 1 box with modular components allowing all six variants, three for each side... or four now and two more in the third faction box ;)


  13. Unfortunately, there isn't a nice long vertical piece for me to use for comparison, so getting height values is more difficult. Using photo techniques, I get numbers from 56-94 mm, not very consistent. If we assume the length/height ratio of the ISD is the same as the VSD, and assume that the ISD length is 215mm, that gives a height of about 63mm... which is within the range, but the range is kinda terrible. So in this case, I think your eyes will give as good an estimate as this technique, sorry.


  14. I know that we won't get 100% accurate results from scaling photographs, and I have tried to be clear where I have made assumptions and estimates. 

     
    However, I think I am getting pretty close. I went back and used the same technique on the ships we already know, and got estimates of 56mm for the CR-90, 89mm for the Neb-B, and 143mm for the VSD. When I estimate the Raider from the pic, I got 57mm, so right in line with the CR-90. All less than 5% off of the actual value.

    This is really just me following along with where some simple estimation techniques and math take me. I find it interesting, so I plan to keep up with it as more stuff comes out. I am not saying this model is right or wrong, rather, it is the best cohesive explanation for the available evidence I have right now. Another explanation could be that FFG is treating every model individually with no overarching system, in which case it is just an amazing coincidence and my bad luck that the first few models coincide so neatly with a logarithmic scale ;)

  15. The ships we know for sure (measurements taken from my Core Set):
    CR90 - 150m - 58mm - 2.6

    NebB - 300m - 93mm - 3.2
    VSD - 900m - 140mm - 6.4

    The scale factors are all different, and they increase as the ship size increases. The change in the scale factor is also increasing with ship size. I'm sure artistic license comes into play here, so I don't expect every ship to conform exactly. Ship sizes might also be adjusted in order to fit onto a certain size base properly.

    The logarithmic scale accounts for all known data and the new ship estimates, so it seems reasonable to me based on the current evidence.

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