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JerusalemJones said: Just trying to point out what happened in the book, so you weren't confused about what actually happened Apparently we don't understand each other. I'm talking about lack of full plate armor and water dancing fighting style. You are talking about different things.
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JerusalemJones said: Syrio doesn't put his stick in the eye of Meryn Trant, but one of the guards. So? The point is, Syrio is poor water dancer in the movie. He even used his stick (no lead inside) to smash against the helmet of one of the guards. Yeah, right... Logically he would defeat Trant, because of his "full plate" armor wasn't full. Of course if he was really famous water dancer. Seems not. Apparently Ser Meryn Trant is much better than water dancer.
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FATMOUSE said: Why do you say that? I had no "wow!" at the end as usual (I'm not talking about cliffhanger). Usually I am so happy after watching. This one was not exciting. I was disappointed by many changes and shortenings. The first few minutes when fighting began was cool, then excitement was gone (Syrio scene). Maybe I was thinking too much about stupid changes because of budget or other stupid things (e.g. Syrio was unable to stick his sword in the eye or throat of Ser Meryn?). I guess too many scenes didn't meet my expectations.
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Karazax said: Martin wrote last night's episode himself and I thought it was the best one yet. In my opinion it might be the worst one.
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Welcome! Cypress said: Agenda cards. You will find them in deluxe boxes and chapter packs. There are few databases where you can check their contents. One of such site you can find in my signature. Cypress said: does each player look through their remaining unused plot card and choose one they think is best for the scenario? Yep. Cypress said: once attached to a character, can the attachment be moved to another character later? No. You need specific card effect that allows you to do that.
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Copying effects and limit once per phase
Rogue30 replied to Aegis5's topic in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion
ktom said: There is also the fact that Ours for the Taking specifically tells you to pay the associated costs. Yeah, but when you read Ours for the Taking, you can get something like this: Copy that ability (reminder: pay costs as usual), without kneeling the location (exception). It would be better if it read: Copy that ability. Pay costs of that effect except kneeling the location. - then all would be clear, that I must pay, while normally I don't. My point is that players can't know how it works for sure, with nothing in FAQ and very few cards using two different meanings of "copy" and "effect". When Good for the Gander is revealed, does it matter which plot triggers first? If copy means repeat, then I could have nothing to copy yet. If copy means copy, then it's irrelevant. I guess it's the latter, since it is not a response. ktom said: I'm still not getting you. You already confirmed an answer, but I explain for clarity what I meant. All reponses are written in formula: After something happens, [pay something to] do something. Thus, there is no doubt what are you responding to. Save and cancel responses has no "After something happens" part, because it's obvious when you can play it and what you cancel or save. Maester's Tower is an exception - it's formula is: pay something to do something. Now, someone may argue that you can copy any effect (meeting criteria) on any card in play (not limited to "just triggered"). I know it's probably nitpicking (hence my original question about assuming), but I have seen people trying to trigger To be a Kraken just for standing effect, while there was nothing to cancel. If "just triggered" was there it would be better. -
Copying effects and limit once per phase
Rogue30 replied to Aegis5's topic in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion
ktom said: ??? Are you seriously astonished? You, of all people? A lot of confusion here. Look at the Ours for the Taking: Any Phase: Choose 1 location that would kneel to trigger its effect. Copy that ability (paying any additional costs), without kneeling the location. Is it different, because the word "ability" was used? Ability = cost + effect? The word "effect" can be also read general as effect = cost + effect. And of course ability=effect. ktom said: when you copy an effect, you are only copying the effect. You are not copying the cost or play restrictions of the original effect. Probably I misread that part where you said that effect cannot be copied if it's a Limited Response.ktom said: Why would you think that? Can't you Respond to passive effects? So yes, since Maester's Tower does not specify "just triggered," you can use it to copy passive effects -- like "when revealed" plot text. You misunderstood me. What I mean is that you cannot trigger Maester's Tower in response to, say, killing a character, in the Ours for the Taking manner (coping, not repeating), right? It must be something that returns characters (passive or not) isn't it? The card has no explicite "what I'm responding to" part. -
Copying effects and limit once per phase
Rogue30 replied to Aegis5's topic in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion
ktom said: That's the important thing here: the location is resolving - you are not triggering the copied effect's card a second time. So, Rickon Stark cannot copy plot's effect, because "when revealed" will not be met, correct? ktom said: Because the location's copy effect is a "Response," it must be triggered in the same action window in which you play/trigger/activate the original effect. I'm not sure it's oversight, but Maester's Tower has no "after ... just triggered" requirement. Do we assume that since it's a response, then it can be only triggered when returning effect triggers? -
Ratatoskr said: I have been playing this game since September, and I have a grand total of 86 joust games under my belt, and that includes OCTGN I play for near 2 years and I guess not exceeded 100 games. ~Life sucks. @mathlete: if you would play now, would you still include Fleeing to the wall? Did Raff the Sweetling help you at all? Great report.
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Stag Lord said: it served only to detract from it Maybe it wasn't just your taste. I think this scene was good. Littlefinger owns brothel, we watch Rossie (she finally travelled to King's Landing) all logical, suitable. Rossie is good with pulling out secrets from man (despite "that's what you learn in North?"), so Littlefinger told all his plan more or less. Also we see Littlefinger's twisted morality, teaching and understanding passion and lust. Totally different thing than stupid scene when Dany woodenly get into bathtub, when we see understudy's ass.
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New player still unclear about duplicates
Rogue30 replied to Drew Tuzson's topic in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion
Serazu said: Can playing a Targaryen character as a duplicate trigger the LDChambers' effect? I suppose it can, since, by the time I play the card, it is a Targaryen character. Correct? No, playing duplicate is not considered playing a character. -
Ratatoskr said: BTW, I'm not 100% sure if gained abilities are included. Gained are not "on". We have discussed this in New player still unclear about duplicates thread.
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Stag Lord said: Ep 7 shoudl eb great It is. For me much better than 6th.
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New player still unclear about duplicates
Rogue30 replied to Drew Tuzson's topic in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion
ktom said: Philosophically, are we ever sure of anything? Well, I mean if that was ruling about this plot in the past. -
New player still unclear about duplicates
Rogue30 replied to Drew Tuzson's topic in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion
ktom said: The save Response for dupes are not "on" a character, location, or attachment card. So, "on" it's the same as "printed" here? Are you sure we should read this way? Bowl of Brown ("cannot trigger its abilities") stops dupes, right? -
Things I've learned so far in Regional Season 2011
Rogue30 replied to kpmccoy22's topic in 1. AGoT General Discussion
Katagena said: You disapointed me Rings ~So there IS a little justice on this world, don't you agree rings? -
ktom said: How does Taxed Dry discard itself? I find it funny that income providing card does not provide an income bonus. It could be worded a little better
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Things I've learned so far in Regional Season 2011
Rogue30 replied to kpmccoy22's topic in 1. AGoT General Discussion
rings said: Now that I have offended the other half of the boards ~What, that half didn't watch 3rd episode? There is no such thing as melee tournament! Can we stop this bull about Worlds in Europe? Never gonna happen, so what's the point of this? FFG doesn't care about organized play anyway, so be happy what you got (Stahleck/card design). FFG doesn't care about rules properly and you want them to care about big tournaments? Be serious. They only need some tournays to observe what's currently going on with game (mainly Worlds), otherwise they don't care. As for argument about FFG not considering european results and opinions - maybe you should write more here instead on french forum? Oh and btw: deck lists with card titles in French language? At least worthless. The only real and possible world championships is via OCTGN, and you know what? From what I see most people are not interested. So stop this bull about dreams, because the only result is negativity between USA and European (French?) players. -
~Winter Tax doesn't exist and Taxed Dry discards itself, so why bother?
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fiery followers and game of chivasse and other questions...
Rogue30 replied to thorin_81's topic in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion
perpetual noob said: Can this be done? No. If you want to ambush a card you must do it as your action opportunity. Only responses can be played as a response to action (hence the name). -
OCTGN2 Wippien NETWORK - List of players
Rogue30 replied to Gualdo's topic in 1. AGoT General Discussion
diana olympos said: i don't really understand how this forum work !! Nobody does. This forum is weird. -
OCTGN2 Wippien NETWORK - List of players
Rogue30 replied to Gualdo's topic in 1. AGoT General Discussion
@diana olympos: maybe after editing post above, you could write normal post too - this way the icon "unread" will not shine forever (at least I hope it won't). -
When does Tywin Lannister gain gold?
Rogue30 replied to the1andonlime's topic in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion
JohnRReynolds said: I'm new to AGoT, so I'm interpreting the rules that the taxation phase would remove the gold from Tywin, so when entering a new round's marshalling phase he wouldn't have any gold on him, right? No. Tywin allows you to spend gold tokens as if they are in your gold pool, but he says nothing about removing them as if they are in your gold pool.
