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Hi folks,
it's been a while since I posted last time, but I haven't stopped playing this lovely, addicting game.
I just started playing with the Lurker expansion, which i really like (the Relationship cards really help making games easier, thus balancing 3-players games with, say, the Innsmouth board).
But.
But we got a problem here, Houston.
Say, Dexter Drake with his personal story accomplished, OR that lame-going Daisy Walker (who we removed from the box, but you never know).
Add the Heal spell.
Add the Blood pact.
What you get is a combination even lamer than Cloud memory + Heal.
It really happened to us, and were almost disgusted with how easy the game became for Dexter.
Ok, having too much Power tokens might be dangerous, but that allowed him to gain huge amounts of wanna-be clues that he could spend like to Crush Dholes bare-handed or so.
I think the the developers (who keep changing, if you noticed) lost sight of the game's balancement and original mood.
I bet we're going to savagely home-rule this and other issues.
This game should never have gone further than Dholes, Flying polyps and Tommy-Guns.
It's starting to look like a 1920s Dragon Ball game.
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Talking about Arkham Horror- 1987 Edition:
mattherobot said:
In other words, no, haven't played it -- but from what I've read, it is far less advanced than the current edition.
You shouldn't believe to what other people say: the 1987 edition *IS* a lor more "basic" than the current one, but that doesn't mean it is less amusing: it is easier to learn, quicker to run and still funny to play.
Furthermore, monster movement, and damages to Sanity / Stamina were better balanced.
Oh and it was even harder somehow: there only were a few Elder Signs and no clue tokens: Victories were only scored by closing all gates, so Elder signs just helped in preventing a few gates from opening, but nothing else.
Check it out. I got two copies of that game and sometimes we still play it.
dj2.0 said:
but yeah, I still got mine
It has been played with many many times over rainy days (Im from Britain, so no shortage). The box cover is still awesome
The GOOs could show up on turn 1! And yet the game would roll on...What do you mean with "Britain = no shortage"? Is the game still printed there?
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mattherobot said:
I've got to agree. Even though we treat Final Battle wins as a win, Yig is still higher up than Azathoth for us. We tend to pass on both whenever we draw them randomly, but at least with Yig his Epic Battle cards can be meddlesome. Azathoth is just kinda meh.
Have you whiniy guys ever played the very first edition of Arkham Horror, far back in 1987?
'Cause it worked just like Azathoth does now: if the Doom Track hit 13, Arkham was dooomed and the whole town collapsed and shredded into time and space.
Uh, and there were no GOOs: they actually were monster pawns.
I remember playing a game in 2006 where Ghatanothoa, Cthulhu, Shub-Niggurath and Yog-Sothoth spawned at the Silver Twilight Lodge after a few monster surges.
And we managed to win

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I'm amazed. The top 5 GOOs are my very personal top 5 ones.

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Which expansion? Well, I mostly recommend three:
- Dark Pharaoh: it's very thematic and flavoured BUT makes the game kind of easier. That might be both an advantage or a disadvantage, you decide.
-King in Yellow: veeeery flavoured and enjoyable. Adds more stuff than Dark Pharaoh but turns the game into a hell on earth, so beware!
- Innsmouth Horror: a must have if you like spitting your own blood on the game board. Very challenging. Veeeery interesting Great Old Ones. And you get personal stories for investigators too. And adds the most challenging extra game board.
Now it's up to your tastes.
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oh mamma santissima mia I'm going to feel guilty about this. I mean, i'd love to have any of these as a pet.
Eihort is great. I love the terrifying idea of being infested by its wormy brood. It's my playing group's favourite KH GOO.
And Ghatanothoa... well, along with Quachil and Eihort is in my top 3.

Last vote: Solan
Hurt... oh boy I kind of don't want to do this but... I'll hurt Glaaki: I loooooove it as a GOO and its AH version, but its effects often do not even come into play in most of our games.
Eihort 3
Ghatanothoa 4
Glaaki 2THE BANISHED
4th Quachil Uttaus
5th Shub-Niggurath
6th Bokrug
7th Yog-Sothoth
8th Abhoth
9th Y'Golonac
10th Zhar
11th Cthulhu
12th Cthugha
13th Shudde M'ell
14th Nyogtha
15th Yibb-Tstll
16th Chaugnar Faugn
17th Nyarlathotep
18th Tsathoggua
19th Hastur
20th Azathoth
21st Ithaqua
22nd Rhan-Tegoth
23rd Atlach-Nacha
24th Yig -
Mariana the Ex-Nun Cultist said:
Hurt: Gott
Gott 0
Quachil Uttaus 6
Shub-Niggurath 5
Yog-Sothoth 5THE BANISHED
7th Gott
8th Abhoth
9th Y'Golonac
10th Zhar
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(Are we down to only 1 "hurt" per posting?)
Last vote: Flamethrower49
Hurt: Yog-soap- except for it, all the remaining GOOs are among my very favorites.
Bokrug 2
Eihort 7
Ghatanothoa 8
Glaaki 7
Quachil Uttaus 6
Shub-Niggurath 5
Yog-Sothoth 5THE BANISHED
8th Abhoth
9th Y'Golonac
10th Zhar
11th Cthulhu
12th Cthugha
13th Shudde M'ell
14th Nyogtha
15th Yibb-Tstll
16th Chaugnar Faugn
17th Nyarlathotep
18th Tsathoggua
19th Hastur
20th Azathoth
21st Ithaqua
22nd Rhan-Tegoth
23rd Atlach-Nacha
24th Yig -
What's wrong with Quachil uttaus, you wimpies?

The game's name is "Arkham Horror".
Do you get it? Arkham. Horror.
I'ts not "Hello Kitty's Happy Picnic in Arkham".
That said, that's why I think Quachil Uttaus and Ghatanothoa are great: they're scary.
And the're not so difficult to beat. Come on, there's no big deal in being devoured, unless you're counting victory points, or you had a great equipment (I usually happen to lose much of it, so I'm glad to be devoured 51% of the times it occurs). When it occurs, you just start a new investigator. Period.
If we're collecting so many monster trophy, why don't we give them a minimal chance at least?

In my opinion, Quachil is somehow even more enjoyable than Ghata: it makes you feel the "Damocles sword". It hunts you down ruthlessly.
You can even scale its difficulty up or down my deciding that, say, you only have to spend 1 clue to avoid drawing his cards, or that you draw 1 dust card eveytime you draw (or read?) a Tome- which feels a bit more the original short story.
I wish Kevin and other developers had been so creative from the very beginning of this new edition of Arkham Horror: Cthulhu, Hastur and other GOOs would not have been that big disappointment then.
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Edited. Thanks for noticing that.
I was quite excited you know.
I'm off to the range this afternoon, so don't try anything funny with Quachil, or I'll spare a few rounds for...

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So, here's my list and my very reasons:
AH:
---like---
Michael McGlen. Reason: I'm Italian.
Joe Diamond. Reason: I like **** Tracy and trench coats.
Dexter Drake. Reason: I like his attitude.
Darrell Simmons. Reason: explorig and having encounters is my favourite part of the game.
Monterey Jack. Reason: he's very difficult to play- which I call challenging- and I love his special ability.
Bob Jenkins. Reason: his skills and starting possessions make him one of the best all-round characters.
Jenny Barnes. Reason: Bank Loan strategy.
Carolyn Fern. Reason: probably the best spellcaster so far (since I just *removed* Daisy from the game).
---dislike---
Amanda Sharpe. Reason: I never get to use her ability more than once every 3-4 games. And she sucks at about everything.
Sister Mary. Reason: a nun casting such obscure spells deserves getting LITAS straight away! And I don't like her God mumbo-jumbo plot.
Vincent Lee. Reason: slow. Useless. Boring.
Kate Wintrop. Reason: what's the fun in preventing gates from opening?
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Last vote : AXALARA
HEAL: Quachil Uttaus
HURT: Yog-Bubbles
HURT: Cthulhu (What a honor!
)Abhoth 4
Bokrug 3
Cthulhu 0- I'm gonna have squid & chips for lunch.
Eihort 7
Ghatanothoa 8
Glaaki 8
Quachil Uttaus 7
Shub-Niggurath 5
Y'Golonac 2
Yog-Sothoth 7
Zhar 2THE BANISHED
11th Cthulhu
12th Cthugha
13th Shudde M'ell
14th Nyogtha
15th Yibb-Tstll
16th Chaugnar Faugn
17th Nyarlathotep
18th Tsathoggua
19th Hastur
20th Azathoth
21st Ithaqua
22nd Rhan-Tegoth
23rd Atlach-Nacha
24th Yig -
thecorinthian said:
Jesus! Wait, what? Is that from the Innsmouth rulebook? Those bloody "notes"! First Quachil Uttaus, now this guy? Are there ANY interesting AOs in Innsmouth who aren't made less interesting by the clarifications?My group has been playing it according to the text on Ghathanathoa itself, which says that when you turn over the deadly Visage token, it still doesn't 'reset' the other tokens. So if someone is devoured by the first of eight tokens, you can be sure that you get three safe clue-pickups before you flip the tokens and risk devouring again. That was my favourite aspect of it - it seemed like a nice counterbalance. Not that Ghathanathoa hasn't wupped our asses every time anyway.
Well, I strongly disagree with you.
I started LOVING Ghatanothoa for the same reason you criticise it: because it is an investigator-maiming machine. It's pure sadism. It's pure HORROR.
And it's easy to home-rule it so that you reset the tokens after drawing, say, 2, or 6 according to the difficulty you want to have.
You could even change its effect into forcing such investigator to draw a Madness or Injury card.
I mean, you could even say "ok guys, if you flip its visage up, then you gain $10"- get what I mean?

Best GOO ever.

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Interesting: except for the ones I'm hurting and Y'golonac, all my favourite GOOs are still in game (oh well, I love hastur too, but not the way it's been developed in AH
)Last Vote: Mageith
Hurt: Yog-bubbles
Hurt: Cthugha
Heal: Quachil Uttaus- It really manages in making us feeling the chill!
Abhoth 3
Bokrug 4
Cthugha 3
Cthulhu 3
Eihort 7
Ghatanothoa 9
Glaaki 7
Quachil Uttaus 7
Shub-Niggurath 5
Y'Golonac 4
Yog-Sothoth 7
Zhar 2THE BANISHED
13th Shudde M'ell
14th Nyogtha
15th Yibb-Tstll
16th Chaugnar Faugn
17th Nyarlathotep
18th Tsathoggua
19th Hastur
20th Azathoth
21st Ithaqua
22nd Rhan-Tegoth
23rd Atlach-Nacha
24th Yig -
Ohhhh I'm so glad of getting back at home after working 12 hours and seeing that Leo won!
I don't know whether he is the best (I mean, a balance of power, style, playability and stuff) or not, but he's always been among my favourities.
So glad, I am.

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Dam said:
Means you need 2 successes to pass the check. So at least 3 Luck or Clues. Pages 12 and 13 in the rules.
Actually, a Skill(-1)[2] check would require at least a score of 3 (so that 3-1= 2 dice rolled), or TWO Clue Tokens (since clues do not suffer penalties- should you be asked to roll a Luck(-999) check, you could still spend 1 clue to roll 1 die.)
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Last: Cim
Hurt: Yog-Sothoth
Hurt: Cthugha
Heal: Quachil Uttaus
Abhoth 5
Bokrug 6
Cthugha 3
Cthulhu 4
Eihort 8
Ghatanothoa 9
Glaaki 8
Nyogtha 1
Quachil Uttaus 8
Shub-Niggurath 5
Shudde M'ell 6
Y'Golonac 6
Yog-Sothoth 6
Zhar 4THE BANISHED
15th Yibb-Tstll
16th Chaugnar Faugn
17th Nyarlathotep
18th Tsathoggua
19th Hastur
20th Azathoth
21st Ithaqua
22nd Rhan-Tegoth
23rd Atlach-Nacha
24th Yig -
Last Vote: Cimmerz
Hurt: Sister Mary
Agnes Baker, the Waitress 3
Diana Stanley, the Redeemed Cultist 2
Finn Edwards, the Bootlegger 2
Harvey Walters, the Professor 1
Joe Diamond, the Private Eye 2
Leo Anderson, the Expedition Leader 2
Sister Mary, the Nun 1
Skids O'Toole, the Ex-Convict 1THE DEVOURED
9th Tommy Muldoon, the Rookie Cop
10th William Yorick, the Gravedigger
11th Roland Banks, the Fed
12th Mark Harrigan, the Soldier
13th Norman Withers, the Astronomer
14th Dexter Drake, the Magician
15th Silas Marsh, the Sailor
16th Luke Robinson, the Dreamer
17th Hank Samson, the Farmhand
18th Trish Scarborough, the Spy
19th Wilson Richards, the Handyman
20th Jacqueline Fine, the Psychic
21st Ursula Downs, the Explorer
22nd Jenny Barnes, the Dilettante
23rd Ashcan Pete, the Drifter
24th Monterey Jack, the Archeologist
25th Darrell Simmons, the Photographer
26th Michael McGlen, the Gangster
27th Wendy Adams, the Urchin
28th Marie Lambeau, the Entertainer
29th Tony Morgan, the Bounty Hunter
30th Carolyn Fern, the Psychologist
31st Akachi Onyele, the Shaman
32nd Rex Murphy, the Reporter
33rd Zoey Samaras, the Chef
34th Bob Jenkins, the Salesman
35th Rita Young, the Athlete
36th Mandy Thompson, the Researcher
37th Minh Thi Phan, the Secretary
38th Lola Hayes, the Actress
39th Charlie Kane, the Politician
40th Lily Chen, the Martial Artist
41st Jim Culver, the Musician
42nd Patrice Hathaway, the Violinist
43rd George Barnaby, the Lawyer
44th Kate Winthrop, the Scientist
45th Gloria Goldberg, the Author
46th Amanda Sharpe, the Student
47th Daisy Walker, the Librarian
48th Vincent Lee, the Doctor -
mageith said:
Dam said:
Wait, mageith's post arrived at 13:44, but Gott's at 13:42 and Gott's is the last post
???Somebody (next voter?) edit!
Mageith's post used matttherobot's stats and modified correctly, Gott's post needs to be included into mageith's stats.
For some reason Gott skipped two voters. If Gott's still on he can edit.
Y'know, I am the Key, I am the Gate



I noticed that lag problem too. That's why I can't edit 90% of my posts.
That said,
see you yesterday.



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Last vote: Cim
HURT: Sister Mary- so much for your pope excommunicating me.
HURT: Diana Stanley- I really love her, but while her Personal Story is so difficult, it's almost not worth the effort at all. And I really hate her speed of 3.
HEAL: Leo Anderson- This guy is amazingly useful. Also, for some strange reason, every time I play him I get to gather some 4-5 allies for no apparent reason O___O'''
Agnes Baker, the Waitress 4
Diana Stanley, the Redeemed Cultist 3
Finn Edwards, the Bootlegger 3
Harvey Walters, the Professor 3
Joe Diamond, the Private Eye 4
Leo Anderson, the Expedition Leader 4
Mark Harrigan, the Soldier 2
Roland Banks, the Fed 3
Sister Mary, the Nun 2
Skids O'Toole, the Ex-Convict 3
Tommy Muldoon, the Rookie Cop 3
William Yorick, the Gravedigger 2fTHE DEVOURED
13th Norman Withers, the Astronomer
14th Dexter Drake, the Magician
15th Silas Marsh, the Sailor
16th Luke Robinson, the Dreamer
17th Hank Samson, the Farmhand
18th Trish Scarborough, the Spy
19th Wilson Richards, the Handyman
20th Jacqueline Fine, the Psychic
21st Ursula Downs, the Explorer
22nd Jenny Barnes, the Dilettante
23rd Ashcan Pete, the Drifter
24th Monterey Jack, the Archeologist
25th Darrell Simmons, the Photographer
26th Michael McGlen, the Gangster
27th Wendy Adams, the Urchin
28th Marie Lambeau, the Entertainer
29th Tony Morgan, the Bounty Hunter
30th Carolyn Fern, the Psychologist
31st Akachi Onyele, the Shaman
32nd Rex Murphy, the Reporter
33rd Zoey Samaras, the Chef
34th Bob Jenkins, the Salesman
35th Rita Young, the Athlete
36th Mandy Thompson, the Researcher
37th Minh Thi Phan, the Secretary
38th Lola Hayes, the Actress
39th Charlie Kane, the Politician
40th Lily Chen, the Martial Artist
41st Jim Culver, the Musician
42nd Patrice Hathaway, the Violinist
43rd George Barnaby, the Lawyer
44th Kate Winthrop, the Scientist
45th Gloria Goldberg, the Author
46th Amanda Sharpe, the Student
47th Daisy Walker, the Librarian
48th Vincent Lee, the Doctor -
(I'M CORRECTING CIM'S ERROR- SO CTHULHU IS AT 6)
Last Vote: Cim
Hurt: Y'Golonac
Hurt: Cthugha- Just a boring clone of Ithaqua- speaking of which, I can't understand why he got banished so quickly.
Heal: Ghatanothoa- I love both it and Quachil Uttaus, but I love Gathanathoa's Sinister Plot cards.
Abhoth 5
Bokrug 8
Chaugnar Faugn 2
Cthugha 4
Cthulhu 6
Eihort 7
Ghatanothoa 9
Glaaki 9
Nyarlathotep 2
Nyogtha 3
Quachil Uttaus 8
Shub-Niggurath 7
Shudde M'ell 7
Y'Golonac 5
Yibb-Tstll 4
Yog-Sothoth 7
Zhar 5THE BANISHED
18th Tsathoggua
19th Hastur
20th Azathoth
21st Ithaqua
22nd Rhan-Tegoth
23rd Atlach-Nacha
24th Yig
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Late vote: Solan
Hurt: Yog-Sothoth
Hurt: Y'Golonac
Heal: Quachil Uttaus. no GOO scared the creep out of me more than him- You guys should read the novel

Abhoth 6
Bokrug 7
Chaugnar Faugn 4
Cthugha 4
Cthulhu 7
Eihort 7
Ghatanothoa 9
Glaaki 9
Nyarlathotep 5
Nyogtha 4
Quachil Uttaus 8
Shub-Niggurath 8
Shudde M'ell 8
Y'Golonac 8
Yibb-Tstll 6
Yog-Sothoth 7
Zhar 6THE BANISHED
18th Tsathoggua
19th Hastur
20th Azathoth
21st Ithaqua
22nd Rhan-Tegoth
23rd Atlach-Nacha
24th Yig -
Sorry pals but I'm working like 12 hours per day now.
I'm afraid I'll be able to vote just every now and then

Last vote: Avec
Hurt: Sister Mary- How can a nun start with Voice of ra and Dread Curse of Azathoth???
Hurt: Silas. As I said, I love pirates but I hate expansion-bound characters.
Heal: Dexter.- I want one of those hats. Can i have his, if he gets devoured?

Agnes Baker, the Waitress 5
Dexter Drake, the Magician 4
Diana Stanley, the Redeemed Cultist 4
Finn Edwards, the Bootlegger 4
Harvey Walters, the Professor 6
Joe Diamond, the Private Eye 4
Leo Anderson, the Expedition Leader 6
Mark Harrigan, the Soldier 2
Norman Withers, the Astronomer 3
Roland Banks, the Fed 4
Silas Marsh, the Sailor 1
Sister Mary, the Nun 4
Skids O'Toole, the Ex-Convict 4
Tommy Muldoon, the Rookie Cop 4
William Yorick, the Gravedigger 5THE DEVOURED
16th Luke Robinson, the Dreamer
17th Hank Samson, the Farmhand
18th Trish Scarborough, the Spy
19th Wilson Richards, the Handyman
20th Jacqueline Fine, the Psychic
21st Ursula Downs, the Explorer
22nd Jenny Barnes, the Dilettante
23rd Ashcan Pete, the Drifter
24th Monterey Jack, the Archeologist
25th Darrell Simmons, the Photographer
26th Michael McGlen, the Gangster
27th Wendy Adams, the Urchin
28th Marie Lambeau, the Entertainer
29th Tony Morgan, the Bounty Hunter
30th Carolyn Fern, the Psychologist
31st Akachi Onyele, the Shaman
32nd Rex Murphy, the Reporter
33rd Zoey Samaras, the Chef
34th Bob Jenkins, the Salesman
35th Rita Young, the Athlete
36th Mandy Thompson, the Researcher
37th Minh Thi Phan, the Secretary
38th Lola Hayes, the Actress
39th Charlie Kane, the Politician
40th Lily Chen, the Martial Artist
41st Jim Culver, the Musician
42nd Patrice Hathaway, the Violinist
43rd George Barnaby, the Lawyer
44th Kate Winthrop, the Scientist
45th Gloria Goldberg, the Author
46th Amanda Sharpe, the Student
47th Daisy Walker, the Librarian
48th Vincent Lee, the Doctor -
Hey Ithaqua should be ad 1!
My screwed-up vote put it at 4, then it received 3 more votes down.
Check it out!

Fixing the Lurker up: my results here- add yours!
in Arkham Horror Second Edition
Posted
Sooooo...
I really like this expansion: since it does not add any special Mythos-card-triggered effect (like King in Yellow did), it is easy to add it to any game without messing it up (I usually remove 22 base-game Mythos cards and then add the 22 new ones, so that I won't even know which rumors/headlines/else are going to happen).
But, as many of you already noticede, this expansion is, rule-speaking, quite a mess.
Since I am not going to wait for any FAQ or errata, here is how we home-ruled it. All the following has already been tested and proved challenging, funny and balanced enough:
1) Bound Ally pact: When you gain a bound Ally, put a Power token on it. you may only spend or discard that token by discarding that Ally. Should the Ally be discarded, you still keep the "Bound Ally" card (so you can't get another).
Behind the curtains: this makes players always-or-so having at least one power token which, as you know, is often a "dangerous gift". This makes the pact quite dangerous, thus balancing the heavy ally benefit.
2) Blood pacts /Souls Pacts: you may only have one of each (as the game already says), BUT you must choose only one of the two listed effects when you get the card. The "you may spend a Power token as either 1 clue or 1 sanity" always applies.
This fixes things up pretty much in my group's opinion.
Also, we like removing one random Reckoning card, so that we can't be sure whether a single effect is going to take place or not.
Hope you enjoy