How would that work?

People play over skype?

I didn't like Octgn. Maybe it's my PC but the stuff on screen was tiny and you could only read it by mousing over it.

Are there any? When do they meet? I know there's some in Bristol but they never seem to want to play. I'm starting to get a little frustrated. I have played the game about 3 times since release! Anyone there?

might just play the Outrider as its fun. Last time i used Dash + Lando + Experimental INterface + HLC + title + VI. Not sure about VI, it's a bit dull but Dash has crappy PS. Not sure what to use with it though. I tried Etan Baht but it didn't work.

I am not, but this isn't Magic - a game that's been going for 20 odd years - and I don't see it as necessary.

Is FFG still going ahead with the planned obsolescence of cards? That, in a year or so, starting with the first pack, cards will be rotated out and thus utterly useless? I really hope not. I cannot express how utterly disastrous an idea I find this. To tell players their purchase, and the content it brings to the game, is no longer viable, just beggars all belief. If they haven't already please reconsider.

Maybe, but that's not the build i was looking for. Saboteur just allows the phantom to annoy people. I suppose you could use Mara Jade the same way.

I don't really see how useful the intelligence agent is given that you're looking at the dial after you've chosen yours

It gives them something to do while cloaked.

Fun times, i've no interest in serious play as it only attracts the tryhards (the sort who moan if you pick up the range ruler at the wrong time or whine if you don't have enough dice in your collection). Either: Vader + Outmaneouver Col Vessery + VI Random Phantom Pilot (sigma squadron?) + Saboteur and Stygium Thingy (free evade). Or: Oicun + Mara, Jerjerrod, Predator, and Ysanne Kath Scarlett + Lone Wolf and Rebel Captive and that card that only Large ship shave that gets rid of a lock and gives them 1 extra agility for the turn. Something like that.

I don't play that kind of minis game - though mainly because i can't paint or assemble figures! FFG just put out too much stuff. Too many games. Might seem a strange criticism, but it's true IMO. I'm not convinced Armada is good for this.

Ah, okay. I'd assumed, wrongly, that the TD was a staff member of the store. I read a lot here about UKians having trouble getting what they want, with stores being notoriously undersupplied. Which seems strange to me, because I doubt FFG would supply the Netherlands, for instance, better than the UK and other than global shortage it's not nearly as bad here as it seems to be in the UK. So, speculating, either the distributor is not ordering enough from FFG or they are preferring certain stores over others. I have heard quite a few complaints about Esdevium. Which may not be in the picture for too much longer as the merger with Asomodee goes through. They are the only supplier, so the point may well be moot! I'm sure they have their moments like anyone else. Nothing else i've noticed seems to struggle as much as X Wing and its FFG who are known for putting out a TON of stuff.

Ah, okay. I'd assumed, wrongly, that the TD was a staff member of the store. I read a lot here about UKians having trouble getting what they want, with stores being notoriously undersupplied. Which seems strange to me, because I doubt FFG would supply the Netherlands, for instance, better than the UK and other than global shortage it's not nearly as bad here as it seems to be in the UK. So, speculating, either the distributor is not ordering enough from FFG or they are preferring certain stores over others. I'm only assuming he is the TD since he was organising it and taking payments via paypal. Which is not to suggest any impropriety either. But as far as I know he doesn't work for the store. They are just the venue. Part of the problem is the unwillingness to give clear answers, but then from their persecptive they are all friends and how dare this guy come in and impugn their reputation!

Especially if you've PAID!

No, and i'd rather not get too accurate with the detail. A degree of anonymity is, imo, to be respected.

I've no idea what the problem with distribution is. Only FFG and Esdevium have the answer to that. Tournament cost for the store championship, as decided by one member of the community (i'm assuming he is the TD though when I asked what the cost for the prize kits was he refused to answer), was set at £10/head. With 16 places that's £160. If prize kits cost about £30 (rough guesstimate) that still leaves £130 which will, iirc, be given out as extra prizes in the form of store credit. When I asked why the price needs to be so high, which I did quite respectfully, I was chewed out. On top of that i'd have to pay for transport to the venue and a few quid for some sandwiches. That's the situation. I can't justify paying that just to play. Frankly I'm not likely to win - with which I am entirely fine - but I somewhat resent having to pay just so the hot players in the local clique can share £130 or so amongst themselves. Sorry that may sound mealy mouthed but that's how I feel. If it was just the stuff in the tournament kit that would be absolutely fine, but big money prizes? Nope not for me. No, that sentiment I can fully understand. If our shop hosts a (regular, casual) tourney they charge 5 euro, with some going for store credit for the top three (lastt ime was 15 euro for the number 1, nothing big). The rest is used to buy more playmats or otherwise help the hosting of tournaments. So even if you don't win, at least your money is going to help the store host tournaments and games. From what you've been saying here in this thread I think it is time to find another store, if possible. That sucks. It's not the store. They are great. Let me make that 100% clear. The TD (again, i assume he is such) is making these decisions about cost. The shop, as the venue, has the space and the tourney is held when they are open anyway. At most they ask a nominal fee of a quid if you want to play (assuming you buy nothing as well while you're there). That's a far cry from what the TD is claiming who, again, when asked about the breakdown of that cost, refused to answer. I find that unlikely: if you're organising the event then you must know how much the FFG prize support kit will cost. But i bet it isn't £160! If it is then i'm happy to forego it, personally speaking! The priority surely must be to play the game. Anything else is just gravy. The shop can't get stock because the supplier isn't able to supply it. Now they are somewhat new(ish), so perhaps older shops (Leisuregames, for example, in London) get priority. But that's not their fault. The shop are helpful and friendly and I would hate for that to be misrepresented or mischaracterised.

I've no idea what the problem with distribution is. Only FFG and Esdevium have the answer to that. Tournament cost for the store championship, as decided by one member of the community (i'm assuming he is the TD though when I asked what the cost for the prize kits was he refused to answer), was set at £10/head. With 16 places that's £160. If prize kits cost about £30 (rough guesstimate) that still leaves £130 which will, iirc, be given out as extra prizes in the form of store credit. When I asked why the price needs to be so high, which I did quite respectfully, I was chewed out. On top of that i'd have to pay for transport to the venue and a few quid for some sandwiches. That's the situation. I can't justify paying that just to play. Frankly I'm not likely to win - with which I am entirely fine - but I somewhat resent having to pay just so the hot players in the local clique can share £130 or so amongst themselves. Sorry that may sound mealy mouthed but that's how I feel. If it was just the stuff in the tournament kit that would be absolutely fine, but big money prizes? Nope not for me.

You've completely misunderstood. When i spoke about 5 Falcons, i was talking about the shop. Not every retailer on/offline. Those 5 ships were all the shop was allocated. I have no idea why (low supply all round presumably) or how much product other places were allocated. Those 5 ships went to the people that had their name down earliest, and that was as late as November. I can only speak for the places and people I know. Whatever shiops other people use may well be entirely different, I have no idea, I am not speaking for them. I found the situation ridiculous and so I commented on it with the above title, because it is. FFG puts out entirely too much product across the board and so being unable to meet demand of their seemingluy most popular product is a crazy situation. Combined with the other situations i've mentioned, availability of players, cliquey community, expensive tournament costs (if i'm paying aklmost £20, all in, to play the game via a tournament it's too much for me), cost of product to keep up with the game, I don't feel this is something i can continue with. I'm well aware that S/V, or any particular product, is unnecessary, but that's not really the point. You play the game because you like the content and so you want the new content (which you will need to stay current because power creep is how games like this remain profitable), that's perfectly normal. As players we should want S/V otherwise there's not much point playing. I certainly want it, as a player, but I can't keep up with the Joneses in a game that's going to cost £100 every few months that I rarely get to play. That's not 'whining', it's just a statement of how it is.

I got both a Falcon and a Slave 1 form Gameslore having ordered the day before the restock, and both were available from retailers with an on-line presence on the day. Hell, Slave 1 is still available from several suppliers including Amazon directly. again: I'm not interested in the falcon. I already own afirespray

that you think you've been insulted proves how little of what I've actually said you have read.

I have no idea what you are talking about, I think you are arguing with yourself. You and the other fanboys just seek to troll I think because you cannot stand how anyone can even be perceived to be saying something negative about your beloved game. I see it all the time on FFG forums. It's ridiculous. I haven't made any claim remotely of the kind you seem to think I have and it's clear that you haven't actually paid any attention to what I've actually said. I made it clear from the start that I don't care about the Falcon. I said it several times in fact. I made my position perfectly clear. I've no idea at all how you can so egregiously miss the point. What on earth does this have to do with 'personal responsibility'? Again if people aren't available and the local community isn't particularly inclusive it would be absurd to seek to continue playing a game that, again, is a good game (doesn't matter how good it is if there's no opportunity to play). That is on top of the continued cost of playing along with nonsense like the Imperial Raider package. That the company can't even meet the demand is why I posted. The only people to get Falcons in this current print run were those that preordered in November at the latest - including people that already have 2 of them. Can you not see how absurd a situationi that is, or would you rather engage in a pissing contest?

It reads to me like you are dictating your game. You seem hold a mindset that if you don't have everything you can't play. That won't be sustainable. Like I have said elsewhere, the game is very well balanced. Asteroid placement, ship placement and flying are as important, or more important, than what cards you have. If you are done, ok. Don't act like it is the fault of the game or the rest of us playing though. You are choosing not to play. I didn't say it was. In fact I gave the reasons on the first page. Perhaps you should have read them more clearly. I even said theat the game is good. You are making the claim that other players are, inadvertently, dictating your game. I've read the whole thread, saying you said something else first before you made the claim I am addressing is disingenuous. Even if true you are expecting me to take a position from the past over what you have said more recently. The only one trolling this thread seems to be you. How about you graciously accept valid criticism, or bow out, as opposed to getting your back up and trying to invalidate the valid criticisms put to you. Or heck, you claimed you were quitting, how about you stick your flounce. Since this is not a solo game it is entirely proper that other players 'dictate' my game. If those players are, as I have said, never available when I am and behave as an exclusive clique then that will influence my experience. Why would this be something you can't understand? It is what it is, the game isn't a solo game. If you have any valid criticism then offer it, if you just want to play the wounded fanboy card then I'm not interested.

Find another thread to troll, i've no time for fanboys.

because the demand for product is huge. Many people want at least 3x everything.If you're not having fun, get out. This complaining about availability has been going on long enough. We have dealt with shortages for 2 years plus now. We have all waited for something to restock in our areas, you aren't the first to run into this issue, and you won't be the last. If you're going to let your frustration get the best of you, then sell your ships and find a game that has a better availablity.Whining about it isn't going to get you ships faster, and the people that are geting their ships.. they are preordering, and you have the same ability as well. Even now.. you can go to miniatures market and preorder all the ships you want or can afford.. talk about your first world problems. People in other countries are short on food and water.. we gripe about plastic miniature toys.. Also.. buy everything, you get all the cards to play the game and when you find someone that doesn't play, and is interested.. you can field a Rebel, and Imperial force to show them how.. that's what I did.. If you are going to use childish and provocative language such as 'whining' then please find another thread.