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M's VERY surprising so far. Pitching/small-ball. Griffey and Ichiro aren't even hitting (although walks and presence is a big part of things).
Fun to watch for sure. I don't think they can do it all year, but great to watch some of these younger players doing well on the big stage...and good to see some "comeback" years for the vets we do have.
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Watching Detroit again, with my old Red Wings hat I picked off the ground in 1990 on! I don't follow until the playoffs, so good to see Detroit up near the top again.
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Still looking for copies of those plots...did anyone confirm they will be brining them for me? I like piece of mind. And a good piece of...better not go there.

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dormouse said:
LoB are you playing LCG and you have too much gold?
In multi-player, why not? No location destruction to speak of, even if you use the plot your opponent will usually have 9+ gold.
I agree, if I didn't say it before. I would like more swing cards, and LoB and I have always talked about having more "fear losing a challenge" cards. To be honest, there are more "fear winning" or "fear defending a challenge" than "fear losing a challenge" - cards like Lanni Pays Debts and indirectly with Lethal Counterattack and Writ Small (really, the only three "surprise!" cards that scare me in LCG). Really, there is almost no reason (other than Robb?) to defend much of the time. I always liked Fire From the Skies...that card rocks, anyone could use it, it was a card you could trigger at any time (not a response) which was cool, and it did have limits to make it really effective but not toally hose someone. Plus, you had to win TWO challenges - I always liked cards that keyed off wining 2-3 challenges, they were always more balanced.
If I had a "dream list" of old events it would be:
1. Fire From the Skies
2. Narrow Escape (still the best soft-counter to Valar and mass destruction, I would re-word with "save" instead of "return to play" in the text to keep Wildfire and Targ control active).
3. Paper Shield
4. Tears (probably PTTS as well if Tears is in there - and I have no problem putting a limit like "win by 4", or "character w/o attachment")
5. Ransack, or a slightly weaker PTTT.
6. Interrogate - Lord/Lady love again for me

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Lars said:
rings said:
My problem is that cycle cards are VERY hard to balance - harder to me than unique ideas for character for each house. Just look at the Fury plots and the 'stand and X' cards. There were really no cycle cards in my two favorite sets - Westeros and 5KE. At least that I can remember.
Kings/Queens weren't a cycle? or is cycle defined by non-uniqueness? the traitors weren't a cycle? The Hamlets weren't a cycle? The A Test Of... events weren't a cycle? The Agenda's weren't a cycle?
or was it becuase they were spread out and you didn't see them new all at once that they weren't a cycle?
Good points to be sure.
Kings/Queens, for the most part, didn't key off the same thing in my book (other than Robb, Cercei and either Bob/Stannis with the claim and plot traits) - but I agree they probably could be considered a cycle. Plus, there were a bunch of cards that keyed off them as well to not make their effect the only reason you played them. Hamlets, immunity to some cards, etc. Uniqueness is probably a tad of it though, as most uniques are ran in 1 ofs and you can only have one on the table which changes things.
Traitors sucked, but you are right they were totally an unbalanced cycle - I tried to forget about them since I hated them so much (and still do). Building better decks and playing better should result in wins, not luck on whether your opponent is running "screw you" cards
When people were running the bara traitor out of house, the shark was officially jumped... 
Hamlet's were the exact same thing, so no balancing issues - I don't count those in cycles really (but again, agree that they are technically).
Test of X were a cycle for sure, but not really in any one house (although some houses could use them better) since they keyed off crests (right? I am horrible with card names!). Difference in balancing again.
Agendas certainly were, and are pretty much a bad idea. I think I said before (somewhere!) that cards you start with in play are the hardest to balance, and then plots are second since you decide when they happen (for the most part, barring Outfox and the such), and they usually repeat. I am all for agendas that all houses can use (with HEAVY playtesting). Luckily none were really overpowered (Stark being close - but only due to the error of printing traitors, not the agenda itself).
I digress...

You are right though - being spread out, and really not as many compared to the total set in what my mind says are cycle cards (very similar cards in which each house has a different effect) is part of it.
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Remember - league on Saturday! Hope to play the cube to if we have time

See y'all there.
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Oh, and Pat anyone can play. In the past there was a "plus" for being a Regional winner. First it was a bye, and then it became just that you couldn't be matched up with another Regional winner in the first round.
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Unlike other major games, we pretty much only have people for one tourney at a time, and tourneys take some serious time. Not a big surprise that they only have 5 scheduled events. In the past they had unscheduled filler drafts for people who dropped or couldn't make the whole tourney...not sure if they have anything simliar this year.
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My problem is that cycle cards are VERY hard to balance - harder to me than unique ideas for character for each house. Just look at the Fury plots and the 'stand and X' cards. There were really no cycle cards in my two favorite sets - Westeros and 5KE. At least that I can remember.
I don't mind some non-uniques - Sellsword, Shadowcat, etc. I just don't get excited to see them *shrug*
Lastly - someone mentioned that the chapter packs could really concentrate on a different part of the map/lore. Brotherhood (~Ghost of HH reprint?), Kingsguard, Queensguard, Reeds, Wildlings, NW, Red Cloaks. With the Hand of the King chapter pack I am starting to get excited this is more the way things are going. ~not that I couldn't take a bunch more bannermen cards! (I will use that example the rest of my life
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Braz, you KNOW you would dig it! You always have a good time with us!
Oh, and I am recruiting Rave and Wyndwalker to play, that is a given. I just promised to drink with them at all hours.

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I think you did a great job - I really don't know why you discounted yourself at the end. Very well thought out, and every player pretty much has an equal say on where they think the game should be.
Some of my points will be re-hashing the above slightly.
I would just say (and most people have heard my harping on many of these issues):
1. Make cool uniques. I don't mind non-uniques, but really most of us play this game to get Jaime or Eddard out, even if we are tourney players. I have placed 1st, 3rd, and 2nd in the last 3 Worlds (Joust of course...), and pretty much try to use only uniques where possible (so every spot but the "1" cost spot usually). FFG has done a fairly good job of this in the past, and I hope it continues. Cards like Put to the Question, and Seductive Promise are good starts, along with fun, Nedly, powerful uniques. It was said above that the "cycle" cards are bland, and fairly annoying. Every so often they are fine - the refugees were not bad. But putting tons of cards into the army or 4-5 cost slots should be rare.
2. Make power cards. This I have seen a little hesitancy on. I "grew up" with this game in the age of Valar, PTTS, PTTQ, Roiting, etc. Say what you want, but those were fun times. Power swings could be huge, and you saw lots of different decks. This is one reason I am so excited to run the cube draft at Kubla.
3. Get organized play going...and keep it simple silly! League is tough, lots of results. Right now this game is grassroots again. We need 'special' monthly tourneys with fun promos - and sure, some sort of voting say could be incorporated. I am actually surprised at the # of players I am getting - we only get 5-6/month but that is out of 10-11 players that just don't CCG that much.
4. Stop with the fluff. This was alluded to by the designers at one point - and they haven't had much time to prove this. But even in LCG only - which is mostly all I play these days - I buy one chapter pack to get one card. And I play 3-4 houses! 5KE might have been my FAVORITE set ever...and I am truly bummed it rotated so quickly. Kings/Queens, the plots, the big locations, solid events...ITE wasn't far behind either.
But I agree - I am way more optimistic than I was a few months ago. There are many more posts on the site, and cool things coming down the pike. Plus...I am always excited to hopefully see lots of friends at Kubla and GenCon.
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Maester_LUke said:
It's kinda sad Matt, given the outcomes in my games against you, but Kubla is the one Con I wish I could make a repeat appearance at this year.
Though if it's a choice between me and Mathlete, I know which former joust champ I'd be sharing a room with. Giggity.
I am confused. The outcomes of GenCon, where you handed me my only two losses of day (Swiss, and the championship)? Or the 100 other times I owned you? j/k - you would dig this con the most...a lot more drinking than GenCon...
I was a little confused with the second line as well. Were you saying you wanted to share a room with yourself?

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Kennon said:
Yeah, that's not too bad. The Bara Banner is probably about the best one to actually run.
Edit, the only one to actually run.
~Although the Stark one DOES give Stalwart... -
While he is important enough to make you rethink putting high-priced nuetrals in your deck (I admit to taking all that are more than 2 gold out of decks - which says something), and I think that is bad for the game, he isn't worst than Jaquen. Jaquen singlehandedly won games, while these guys are like Black Walder - a bit of a deterrant than a power card.
Any card that can be fairly useless and you have to put cards in your deck to use him...and might actually have a HUGE drawback if your opponent is playing them as well...?
I wouldn't mind it if they had more in-house cards legal.
But I agree with the gist - he is horrible for the game...is that a reason for nerfing? Obviously or my Lanni deck would be drawing a lot more, and Jaquen would be finishing games for me
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You will certainly be fine in the main events. There have been new players in every worlds I have seen, and they are much more welcome than in most competative environments. As long as you are at least SOMEWHAT good with the rules and don't time people out (or concede to a losing board before time runs out), you won't have any problems.
I have played at every Worlds so far, and always love to see new people and try to help them along. After the first couple of rounds you will most likely be paired up with fairly newer players regardless...~or Kennon or Staton.
Oh, snap! The aGoT players usually hang out in the aGoT area 90% of the time regardless, so you should have pretty much no problem getting a game in.
If I go (probably 75% chance) I would certainly play - and I will bring my cube draft (am cube, will travel) for an informal draft or 3 as well (one of them being drunk draft '09 maybe? Rings lost in Indy again? Who knows...?)
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~someone got love in the raven cycle?
I must have missed that...

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Eh, I will give that excuse a C-. You are obviously not nerdy enough to be part of this group
I will continue to talk big until my wife forces me to miss a con for some reason...
But, hey, GenCon has been over her birthday the last 3 years and running! So there... 
Mathlete...you are getting me mixed up with Tam I think...although I was always envious...(now WAY moreso considering I could be watching cheerleading practice!).
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Lurker alert!
And, yes...all world champion cards are in the cube.
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perthius said:
Yeah I was expecting it would contain more cards than this too. Unfortunately for me $30US and a big box translates to a lot of money in Australian dollars. I paid $80AUD for the core set and now it looks like the expansion will be about $60AUD for 60 cards. Can you guys please print another couple of trillion US dollars so I can get a better exchange rate?

Trust me, we are getting RIGHT on that

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Deathjester26 said:
Thanks rings. ~I'm not worried about hookers, especially ones from the STM. I crashed at mathlete's pad almost every night at Gencon, and that was all kinds of kinky
. If by "kinky" you mean "smelled vaguely of peanut butter", then yes, I am sure it was...

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I will bring a couple of decks then!
Oh, and we can probably find that tabletop card minis game that people were playing at GenCon...gosh I can't think of the name...it really actually looked cool.
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I think it is a good bargain. It is like an expansion to a board game, which $30 is just fine for. *shrug*
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cha0s said:
OMG the cube sounds so great! Well done Matt. I am very disappointed that I wont be able to participate
, but like foxpillow I will gladly contribute those plots you have listed. I could mail them to you if you need them ahead of time for testing as well. Just let me know.Funny...you still haven't said why you won't be attending? I am assuming it is a wedding shower or something equally as emascilating?
j/k.Could you send them with DeathJ? Otherwise, I would LOVE to have them in the mail so I know they are there. Everyone is being very nice about this, but everyone sounds kind of "maybe". Thanks a ton.
DeathJ - I am probably getting a room and have no problem sharing it! But...I get hookers. Oh, wait, that is Jesse (BTW, sounds like Wyndwalker and Rave will make it...I am just in the process of making sure they will play in something!).
Getting excited...
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Seattle will be "rebuilding" for at least another 1-2 years...but they actually have some players to be excited about.
I will be going to at least 5 games just to see Griffey's swing at Safeco a few more times before he hangs it up. I play an online baseball game (www.baseballboss.com) and it pains be to have to pick 1998 Griffey or 2007 Ichiro in CF. At least I have the "super-rare" of 1998 Edgar to love...


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Would love to see you, Red Woman!
Flights are pretty affordable everyone...you could learn from this lady...