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  1. Posted

    When you assemble your dice pool, you add as many white dice as your skill rank.
    If you have 0 rank, you add 0 white dice.

     

    50 minutes ago, TheBlindSamurai said:

    Are players who have a 0 in a Skill allowed to JUST roll their Ring Die and take whatever comes up, 

    Careful, here.
    You keep UP TO your ring value (minimum 1)

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    14 hours ago, KveldUlfr said:

    They are not tactical. They are narrative abstract.

    They are neither.

    They'd need to be tactical so that you know whether you are in the right range for your numerous techniques that require a precise range. (being at Range 2 when your weapon is Range 1 requires tactical enough rules)

    Or be totally narrative by being like "You are too far away to get to the target that round while staying under cover, unless you can pass a good athletic check. But if you fail, you are a nice target in the open. Wanna try ?".

     

    Range bands are certainly not abstract, as they are a precise, concrete number. And you have a limited amount of options each turn to alter that number. So, not abstract.
    But I'm re-hashing what I said in the other threads, where we never manage to get to a satisfying conclusion.

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  9. Posted

    2 hours ago, Corg Ironside said:

    NOT-> The bandit is 4 range bands away from me and I move 2, so now i am 2 range bands from my target and 2 range bands from my shugenja that I left behind.

    INSTEAD -> My bushi is 4 range bands from the bandit. I move 2 range bands to be within spear range of the bandit. Since I'm so close to the bandit now I'm around throwing distance (maybe bow shot) from my shugenja so range 3 (or 4).

    Seriously, I understand all that.
    The "good" reading you advise is the first reading I got, the one I still have, and the one that makes no sense at all.

    Problem is, at the end of the day, someone has to decide that the bushi and shugenja are too far appart just because it makes sense. "He was far away, you moved close to him, so ended up far from were you started" is totally sound and fine.
    But what makes even more sense, is either:
     - to not use those  bands and go full narrative. (as everyone at the table can agree to get rid of numbers)
     - to not use those bands and go full tactical. (as everyone at the table can equally  agree use more precise and reliable numbers)
    Why bother with some clunky in-between mechanics that you sometimes use, sometimes don't, and always end up overruling with fiat and common sense ?

    If that is really how they are supposed to be used, I see them as utter failure to achieve anything but a headache.

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  12. Posted

    The more you post, the less I understand.
    Sincerely. ?

    19 minutes ago, AtoMaki said:

    Exactly! 

    Why use range bands at all, then ?
    And not distance ?
    Why use a map for position, and then abstract distances ?

     

    19 minutes ago, AtoMaki said:

    You shouldn't use Range Bands to determine positioning or distance, Range Bands are strictly for action resolution and represent a specific "reach limit" for the acting character. Do not use them for anything else, they can't do those! 

    Range bands are presented as a way to "handles the concept of distance between two people or objects abstractly [...]. Range bands are a set of numbered, approximate distances that can be used to define spatial relationships between two points when that information is needed."

    It all rings like it is used to determine positions and distances.

     

     

     

    Concrete situation:
    Shugenja (S) and spear-wielding Yojimbo (Y) are walking along a road, side by side.
    Bandit (B) with a bow, some 50 meters away, asks for their koku.

    Do you use range bands ?
    Like S and Y are range 0 from each other, and range 4 from B ?

    Yojimbo decides to move closer to Bandit and maneuvers for extra move .

    Do you use range bands ?
    Like distance between Y and B is reduced to 2 ? 3 ?
    What's the distance now between Y and S ?

    Shugenja wants to cast Power of the Earth Dragon (range 0-2) on Yojimbo. Can they ?

     

    If I take a piece of paper and write some distances on it, changing them as people move, it works perfectly.
    If I use range bands, it doesn't work at all. Something doesn't click.
    I don't see the point of those rules.
    They are neither tactical, nor abstract. Just some weird in-between design concept thrown around.

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  13. Posted · Edited by Exarkfr

    OK, if the answer is "It works", I'm out.

    Seriously, it's not helping at all.

     

    Edit:

    It's not a ruler.
    It's not a grid.
    It's not zone.
    It's abstract (so abstract no one who understands can explain), yet it's used to track fine positioning (movement is limited and weapon ranges are very tight).
    It's only for use when needed, but when need arises, it's tiresome to use.
    ?

  15. Posted · Edited by Exarkfr

    Question is not "What are range bands ?".

    Question is "How do you use them ?"

    On the 2 threads from Beta linked before, no one could explain that.
    One of the first questions after the Beginner Box's release is about range bands.
    Warhammer 3 had a bunch of threads on this subject.
    Every release of a Star Wars game had this question.
    And no one ever manages to explain how they work in game.
    And it's worse in L5R than in SW, because range matters more here.

    FFG never bothered to explain.

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  17. Posted

    43 minutes ago, AtoMaki said:

    In the given example with the Range 2 and Range 3 enemy, if you move to the Range 3 enemy then you must move the full distance and end up roughly at Range 2 from the other enemy, despite the two being only 1 Range apart from you. This is because while they are indeed only 1 Range apart when compared to your position, they are actually 2-3 Range Bands apart from each other, so if you get to one then your distance to the other will actually increase because of the change of comparable positioning. 

    So, if you move 2 range bands towards the closer enemy, you are still 2-3 range bands to the further enemy.
    But if you move 2 range bands towards the further enemy, you end up within range 1.

    So, moving 2 range bands is not the same as moving 2 range bands ?
    Of course, those bands don't represent the same distance. (*)
    But that's the tool we have to adjudicate distances. At some point, it needs to make sense.

     

     

    (*) Though, bands 0, 1, 2, and 3 represent very short distances (touch to a dozen meters over 4 bands), and common math should do the trick.
    Problems start with range band 4 (12m to 100m is a huge gap; too much of a jump from the previous ones)

  20. Posted

    2 hours ago, Malasombra said:

    Is included. The rebel conversion kit is well spoiled, you can find the contents easily....

     

    2 hours ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

    I'm not sure how many times this has to be repeated (and its in the article itself) but everything that is getting released in Wave 1 is also getting released in the cardboard-only conversion packs.  

    Thanks.

    I saw a picture listing the content, but couldn't find Thane's name on it. Neither as a T-65, nor an ARC-170 pilot.

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  23. Posted · Edited by Exarkfr

    Don't like it much. The GM doesn't always have something interesting to add.
    Why give them even more responsibilities ? Especially as those icons can show up quite often...

    The system as it is is far from perfect, but at least the responsibility of keeping Strife relies on the player rolling it.

     

    Edit:
    Another thing to consider is that those anti-opportunities should not negate the success the player has achieved.
    If it turns out it makes the outcome not desirable, the player might just choose to fail, and you are back to square one.
    Everything the players feel is getting in their way, they will either avoid or dance around.

  25. Posted

    1 hour ago, AtoMaki said:

    [...], but here I must note that you cannot provide Assistance to yourself in a duel unless you are doing Initiative shenanigans because the "next character" as the Opportunity specifies will be your opponent :) .

    I'd say it's more because the rules for Assistance state:
    "There are a number of ways that one character can provide assistance on another’s check [...]
    During Step 3: Assemble and Roll Dice Pool, if a character making a check receives assistance from one or more others,[...]"

    Don't think you count as "another".

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