Ok I was looking at some old 3ed forum posts and something came up that I am a bit confused on for any edition. The player in question was asked how many planets he had and lied to the person about how many he had, then the next phase won the game when his public objective stated I collect VP if I own 11 planets outside of my HP. There was a pretty strong opinion that the player was a cheat and should not be played with again. I looked through the 3ed and 4ed rules and no where can I find that states that planets or trade goods are public knowledge and therefore must be truthfully advised when asked. I find no issue with lying about what you own. It is not my job to keep you in the know, that is your job. If I need to only conquer 1 more planet to win it is not my job to tell you that, you need to be paying attention to that. I am not saying cover up everything and dont let anyone see it, but during the course of play things will get mixed up and moved around. I do not feel under any obligation to straighten it up so you can count things. I guess it is just how my group plays, but we cheat, lie and steal to win and no one I play sees an issue with that. Is it just me or do others play this way as well.