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  1. Hi One table says Power 7 the table on the next page says power 8. Which one do you guys think is supposed to be right? By the description I think I'll be going with 8 (due to the emphasis on much larger power drain) or is that me being harsh?
  2. For those who are interested Maelstrom Games www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php have got the new edition available to pre order Core set £53.99 (a lot less than I feared it would be) Adventurer Toolkit £22.49 Extra Dice Set £8.99 All penciled for a 19th December release date (Apologise if this is old news for you peeps)
  3. Hapimeses said: Actually, this thread reminds me that I really should put my last Games Day scenario online somewhere. It was fun. Yes yes yes! That was a great adventure and so much fun! Playing in that game really made my Games Day! Thanks once again for hosting it If you do post it somewhere please let us know. I shall never forget the mage burning down the inn by casting fireball (just a little one lol!) at the sign!
  4. Funnily enough, given that there is no new information that actually tells us anything, I still feel the same. Marketing wise I seriously doubt this was the best way to do it. I'm certainly not too sold on the idea of the new system from (let's face it) what little we have been told. I still feel we need to see this game in action (or better yet play a demo), but if it was only a prototype shown at GenCon and the finished product is still at least a quarter away (which given FFG's past performance, will most likely be extended. Not a complaint, the finished products are often of awesome quality and I would much rather wait for awesome than get chaff quickly) I can't see either happening for a long time. Shame really. As I have said to one of my RL mates who frequents these forums, if after playing this new version I find that it is great, is a much better way of roleplaying in the warhammer world and is a fine example of awesome, I will staunchly advocate it to everyone I know (and some I don't!). But, I will not spend nearly £90 (cost to import to the UK at the moment, who knows how much it'll be to buy from a retailer over here when it is released) to try it. This is still a high price, no ifs, no buts, no "consider the content". I cannot afford to spend that much in one go at the moment. Please consider that to play a game of Dark Heresy (assuming I don't already have all the books) I would only have to spend £35 to £40 and my mates and I could play a game. No, we do not NEED to buy any other book to play a campaign, ALL other books are supplementary. Yes all the other books will add to the game and quite possible increase our enjoyment, but, bottom line, I do not NEED to spend over £40 to play a game of Dark Heresy. Hell, I don't actually NEED to spend any money, as I can download a couple of demo adventures off the net. Don't get me wrong, I will scrimp and scrounge to save £90 to buy a game I know I like. But to try a new game that I have reservations about ...
  5. Sythorn said: I might be alone on this, but I just don't understand the comments being made that the box art doesn't look like Warhammer. The first thought I had upon spotting it was that it bore a remarkable similarity to the Adrian Smith art found within WFB. Granted, I can't tell from an online picture how much grit is found on the characters' faces, but it's certainly dark and looks like Warhammer to me. Really wasn't the point I was trying to make. Alas I grow weary, untill people have had a chance to play/see a game being played all points are hearsay and conjecture (including my own!) I'm going to wait and try and see/play a demo game somewhere and hope it's a game I want to play. Untill then I won't be forking that much cash ($100 plus shipping to UK puts it way out of my price range) buying a game that I know nothing tangible about. As a side point, FFG, surely better ways to market and release this game must have been discussed?
  6. PointyEaredBastard said: 3. The career system is Still in 3rd edition. Jay didn't elaborate too much, but mentioned it is very similar to what we are used to. Each player has a career card that sits next to your character sheet and is used during play. Again this cuts down on flipping through the rulebook for information. Seriously? Jay didn't elaborate? What the hell? That makes me a sad panda. Why not elaborate now? What would be the point in holding a seminar and not elaborating on one of the points that has caused the most contention! In fairness though, your report does make things sound a bit better. Were there any opportunities to play a game with the new version or at least see one being played? Untill then all this talk is still just talk
  7. Oh yes most assuredly, waiting with bated (or is it baited?) breath, well, those of us who haven't washed our hands of the new edition yet! Just one thing though, if the box art accurately portrays the games we will have (if indeed any box art can) then it might not portray a very different game to everyone, DagobahDave (sorry to keep dragging your name into my points good sir!) is a prime example. Despite the intrinsic differences in the style and content of the two pieces (granted he is referring to the entire product with regard to ver3, or at least the parts we have been shown!) the games are in essence the same to him. They evoke the same feelings, the same senses and the same excitment (do correct me if I am wrong D.D.) but for others, like yourself, and me if I'm honest, the two games are very different. To me the changes in character sheets, the dice we will be rolling and the addition of skill and action cards have changed the game a little too much for me to be comfortable with at the moment. FFG have changed the very way we will interact with and as our characters, seemingly putting a lot more importance on the rolling of the previously mentioned dice and who knows what else! The difference between v1 and v2 was very slight in comparison, the statlines, character sheets, skills, spells and way of playing were all very similar. They were still fundamently the same. Now many could argue that V3 is fundamently the same game too. But then I could argue that WFB and WFRP V2 are fundamently the same too. There are the same races, same countries, same dramatis personae, same gritty perilous world, the artwork depicts the same world, the background material is essentially the same (though one continues after the Storm of Chaos the other picks and chooses when it wants to acknowledge the Storm), hell you even roll dice for a lot of the same characteristics! But I am sure you would all agree they are indeed very different games and a fan of one may not be a fan of the other, possibly just for the simple reason they don't like idea of one, or they don't like the way it looks "six sided dice? Bleh!" (not my view! I love WFB woohoo!) V3 if I'm being honest does look like it could be a great game, looks like it could well be a lot of fun. I've played a fair few FFG games of different categories and have enjoyed them all so I know that a great fun game is not beyond them. But so far it does not look like it will replace V2 for me and isn't that what a new version of something should do? To me they seem like very different games, I'd go so far and say very different types of games. Perhaps if WFRP V2 was continuing as the only "warhammer roleplay" game and this new version was "Warhammer Adventure" or something like that it would be better or at least better received. But then again, any game where you take on the persona of somebody or something else can be called a roleplay game so maybe that is a poor comment to make. While we are talking about the differing artwork though, particularly the new box art, we need to keep in mind that box art is nothing more than advertising and that it is certainly no coincidence that it shows remarkable similarity to the recent videogames, especially Warhammer Online. So perhaps the big difference in art presentation can be attributed to something other that game content. I for one feel that any and all advertising should be taken with a healthy dose of salt, anyone looking for an example of advertising not quite being representitive of game content, I direct your attention to Evony and it's assorted online banners.
  8. If I have misinterpreted your post I do apologise! Such are the woes of forum based debate
  9. Cat that Walked by Himself said: Lupinorc said: For some reason the v1 cover always made me think of Trollslayer by William King Also, I don't think trying to objectively analyse art(work) is the best way of making a point I tend to disagree. We can reasonably speak and debate about an artwork and its either implicit or explicit meaning(s). Note that this is not implying a moral judgment (good or bad) but just to understand creative process and its application in a given context. If we can speak only in terms of 'I like' or 'I don't like' about an art we could be also incapable to think about ourselves and our society or in other words why we like or don't like something. Thus culture studies and art history Just looking at these two pictures can tell us a lot about gaming in 1980s and gaming in 2000s. Cat that Walked by Himself said: Lupinorc said: For some reason the v1 cover always made me think of Trollslayer by William King Also, I don't think trying to objectively analyse art(work) is the best way of making a point I tend to disagree. We can reasonably speak and debate about an artwork and its either implicit or explicit meaning(s). Note that this is not implying a moral judgment (good or bad) but just to understand creative process and its application in a given context. If we can speak only in terms of 'I like' or 'I don't like' about an art we could be also incapable to think about ourselves and our society or in other words why we like or don't like something. Thus culture studies and art history Just looking at these two pictures can tell us a lot about gaming in 1980s and gaming in 2000s. No, looking at these two pictures can tell us a lot about fantasy artwork in the 1980s and fantasy artwork in the 2000s. Or, looking at these two pictures we can infer a lot about gaming in the 1980s and gaming in the 2000s. DagobahDave said that the two pieces of cover art "evoked the same sense of adventure" in him. An incredibly subjective statement which by it's nature cannot be incorrect. You appeared to try to tell him he was incorrect by describing the contents of both pieces, during which description you made a couple of subjective assumptions, for example "who look like a group of ne’er-do-wells that are going to ‘adventure’ in order to alleviate their financial woes" and "pyromaniac wizard slaughtering some invisible foes? It seems that they are in the middle of the almost super-heroic slugfest" Granted the second quote is probably the most likely interpretation of that particular piece, but if someone else thought otherwise who are we to tell them they are wrong
  10. I imagine that the 300 includes duplicates and that each character will have a "hand" of probably no more than 10. If that isn't the case, then round these parts it's called "Salesman BS"
  11. For some reason the v1 cover always made me think of Trollslayer by William King Also, I don't think trying to objectively analyse art(work) is the best way of making a point
  12. Pessimist - (pess-e-mi-st) noun. Word used by optimists to describe those who see the world as it really is
  13. Sorry for the double post everyone! I've just read the product description page and by all that is holy & unholy I hope this is available to have a look see at Games Day UK! I have to see if this game really is the abomination it appears to be! Really really sorry to you FFG guys, I know you've spent ages working your butts off to make this game, I don't mean to sound ungrateful and I know full well what it is like to have your hard work criticised but what the hell is this!? Has anyone seen the picture of ranged attack action card? It looks like this is called WHFRP 3 as the number signifies the age this game is aimed at. Please, please, please FFG! Attend some UK (and mainland Europe) events! (Preferably Games Day). People this side of the pond really need to be able to see this before they buy it otherwise, I doubt you will receive many sales (certainly not from anyone in my gaming group, I admit it's not very large but I fear this is a common reaction judging by most of the posts). Hopefully, we have all got the wrong end of the stick, we are all making wrong assumptions based on a typical knee jerk reaction to anything new and different. The only way to correct these incorrect views is demonstration, cos I bet no one is prepared to fork out that much $/£ for a game that they have serious doubts about!
  14. Perhaps stemming from my fondness of Tzeentch I am aware that, despite humans by nature rebel against it, change is quite often a good thing. You never know this "new" way of roleplaying in the grim and perilous warhammer world may end up being brilliant and be the harbringer of a roleplay revolution! However, before I jump in head first I certainly would like the opportunity to "try before I buy". Obviously, events like GenCon are a great venue to do this, if you live in the States (and even then it may not be brilliant given the size of the country). But I, like many other players/GMs don't live in America, will FFG be presenting this at any other events, conventions and the like in Europe? (Games Day UK is coming up next month, hint hint hint! Or are you not allowed more than one guy and one small table like last year?)
  15. angryboy2k said: I would guess that most people don't know how to spell. Lupinorc said: there does seem to be alot of them in this book. Steve Would you believe I did that deliberately to make a point? No? Oh ok How about, I don't charge people for copies of my forum posts, nor do I employ an editor. Graver - My fiance's brother raves about an ale called (I think he said) Moosejaw (or was it Moosedrool, I certainly hope it is the first one!) and continualy tells me I must go over so I can try some. Have you heard of it? Or is it a South Dakota only brew?
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