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#21 Funkleton

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 08:13 AM

I have been thinking along similar lines to this, but was struggling to find anywhere that sold the right materials.

 

Out of the blue  -(while searching for something completely different ....... naturally ), I came across this:

 

http://www.signwhole...t&product_id=77

 

http://www.signwhole...t&product_id=80

 

The first one is a magnetic plastic sheet - the second is a magnetically receptive sheet - in other words not magnetic itself but something that a magnet will stick to. I guess if you are using self-adhesive magnets on your bases you'll only need the second one.

 

The company offering this stuff don't do the printing, but they can arrange it for you if you supply the artwork and will ship it as a completed product - if I understood the sales person correctly the artwork would be printed on a separate vinyl sheet and then bonded to the magnetic material.

I'm awaiting a quote so I'll let you know what it comes to.


Edited by Funkleton, 22 July 2014 - 02:15 PM.

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#22 Volund Starfire

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 10:45 AM

I like the idea about the magnetic sheet on the bottom of the graphics, but I'd have to make one small modification.  FFG suggests glueing a washer onto the bottom of the base to add a little bit of weight.  Wouldn't this be enough to magnetically attach it to the base with enough force to prevent light knocks or bumps, not to mention the little nudges with maneuver templates.



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Posted 11 July 2014 - 10:52 AM

The problem I ran into with that is that virtually all of the magnetic sheeting products I could find had the magnetically strong side opposite that of the adhesive--so I'd be gluing my banner to the weak side, which has almost no magnetic attractive force.  I was worried that I wouldn't have enough magnetic strength to hold onto a washer, etc glued to the bottom of the ship base.  I decided to go with magnetically receptive material, which can have magnets grip both sides equally well, and put the magnets on the ship bases instead.



#24 Mud Turkey 13

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:37 AM

Where do you find the free Hubble images?

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:44 AM

I got them from here:  http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/



#26 Funkleton

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 06:45 PM

kickstarter

 

 

that is all


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#27 Kaxel Vofer

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:16 PM

    WOW, it's an awesome idea, it give you the estability and don't let the ships move accidentaly in the game, congratulations, greetings.


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#28 Funkleton

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 07:56 AM

Just got a quote from a printing firm  who can do the whole job for me:

 

Further to your recent enquiry, I have pleasure in submitting our estimate to meet your requirements as follows.

Title:  Magnetic Banner.

Origination/Press: From PDF supplied

Proofs:

Colour: Four colour process one side only

Size:  914 X 914 mm

Material: Gloss Self Adhesive Vinyl

Finishing: Trimmed to size and mounted onto 0.5mm white plain faced Ferro. Packed suitably.

Delivery: To one UK address.

Price (ex VAT)
x1   £59.00

x5  £194.00

x10  £366.00

 

 

so about £72 including VAT (tax) and delivery for a one-off, or around £46 if I can find 9 other people who want one.


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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:53 AM

I have actually had the pleasure of having my face kicked in while playing on this magnetic mat, and it is to my great surprise that I log on today and see this topic and finally find this guy on FFG. I'm telling all of you, the photos and commentary really doesn't do it justice, it's one of the coolest additions I've ever seen to the game. Major props!


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 12:04 PM

Ah drat, bannersonthecheap doesn't ship to Europe :(

 

Anyone know a good alternative for vinyl banners for us Europeans (the sites I can find don't offer 3' x 3' for size)?


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#31 Funkleton

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 04:20 PM

Ah drat, bannersonthecheap doesn't ship to Europe :(

 

Anyone know a good alternative for vinyl banners for us Europeans (the sites I can find don't offer 3' x 3' for size)?

 

just take a walk onto your local trading park - there's bound to be a few printing firms there - if they don't know what feet and inches are just ask them for a 914mm x 914mm printed banner - failing that get a 1m x 1m -  have them crop it for you down to that size, or just do it yourself,

if you can supply the graphics (you'll want a 300dpi image ideally) you should be able to pick the print up the same day.


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#32 Funkleton

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:50 AM

I've spent the last week or so contacting various local printing firms to find one who could make me one of these at a price that wasn't exorbitant (some quotes were in the region of £200 each!!)

 

It took a while, but I finally found a local printing firm who were able to source a mag receptive sheet that can be printed on directly, and then apply a thin transparent veneer on top to protect the print., So it's a slightly different approach to the OP's technique of having a banner printed which then needs to be mounted on the mag receptive material.

 

While they're still not cheap, this brings the cost down significantly.

 

They were even kind enough to make up a quick and dirty prototype for me to take home and try out free of charge.

 

I've ordered 2 for myself - 1 3x3, 1 6x3 and 4 3x3 mats that I'm going to put on eBay to hopefully make my money back.

 

ps - sorry about the crap pics :D

 

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 11:26 AM

I design custom-painted  X-Wing boards that are also magnet-sensitive. They are not as portable as a rollable mat, but, on the other hand, each one is a hand-painted, unique work of art.  Check one out below, and if you are interested in buying one, contact me for more information!

 

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#34 PewPewPew

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 11:29 AM

Don't they make magnetic paints? Like paints with high iron contents so you can put magnets on it?

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 11:49 AM

I've always thought about figuring out a good way to magnetize asteroids to do this sort of thing with because those guys side around way too much for my liking without much recourse.

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 06:44 PM


 


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 07:30 PM

Magnetise the movement dials, templates, various other icons and you will be able to play on the wall.

 

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 07:47 PM

I've always thought about figuring out a good way to magnetize asteroids to do this sort of thing with because those guys side around way too much for my liking without much recourse.

 

you could drill little holes into the asteroid tokens and glue little Neodymium magnets into them.

 

But a simpler solution is Blu-Tack


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 08:04 PM


http://boardgamegeek...miniatures-game


Kind of reminds me of this guys game mat...Still a good job bros...
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Posted 25 March 2015 - 07:21 AM

The problem I ran into with that is that virtually all of the magnetic sheeting products I could find had the magnetically strong side opposite that of the adhesive--so I'd be gluing my banner to the weak side, which has almost no magnetic attractive force.  I was worried that I wouldn't have enough magnetic strength to hold onto a washer, etc glued to the bottom of the ship base.  I decided to go with magnetically receptive material, which can have magnets grip both sides equally well, and put the magnets on the ship bases instead.

 

You could use rare earth magnets instead of the other.  I would only worry that they had too much strength! 

 

So....lots of people finding companies in the UK that would make these things with images on them.  Anyone know of a company that would print them on the magnetic sheets in the US?  I'm sure I could find 9 other guys to go get their own mats. 

 

I also thought you could probably get a 3x3 sheet of metal and put the banner on top.  Not sure on the price, but then use rare earth under your ships.  Not the best for travel, but might be a great idea for the local shop. 

 

There is also someone on BGG that used some cabinet door bumpers under his minis.  They are little rubber nubs that stop your kitchen cabinet doors from slamming.  He stated that they make the ship hard to move on any playable surface.  It might be a bit cheaper than this truly awesome set up.  He stated that 2.5mm nubs are the best and I can't seem to find that size in the US.  It's .09 inches.