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#1 Guards

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:51 PM

Should natural wepons be given the precision trait? Claws are arguable in my opinion but what about the horns of a bull? Where do we draw the line (i say we don't in terms of creativity but not in terms of power)

Here's what the charecter i'm working on has for a natural weapon. He's a boar he has tusks, the GM and myself (his campaign is going to be run after mine) standard 40 base attack two handed strength bonus (he bucks low and rises up for maximum force, and or puts his whole body into it) can only do full damage if used in a charge (half damage in any other usage no exceptions). Needless to say quite powerful when you account for his STR 10. Now this is not a wild and reckless charge, it is disciplined, focused, and ultimately controlled much like the character. Now I believe daggers and other weapons have the precision ability, feel free to double check that my friend has the book atm. Why shouldn't his tusks? He has plenty of time to line everything up and it's attatched to his face so he can make it go wherever he wants it to if he can make it hit.

Thoughts and comments are welcome also i plan on picking the style module to go with this.



#2 Nurddude

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:47 PM

I, personally, would say that precision would not apply. Even if the attack is "disciplined," that is a relative term. However, if the creature has some kind of insane intelligence, I would say that it has percision. Also, the great thing about Anima is, if you want it to have percision, just give it to the boar. Anima is whatever you make in it.



#3 F3nr1s

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:54 AM

I would say, that this weren't precise. Okay, he "uses" his face to direct his attacks, but the enemy is also moving. Try to hit an arm with your face, if the enemy can turn sideway OR hit your face with his sword (a.k.a. block with his sword), can be rather difficult. Or the moment you lower your head and torso would be the perfect moment to strike the top of your head, without you seeing that (lowered head and torso means you are looking at the ground, ergo you can't see the strike to the top of your head)

With claws, I would say, it would be possible, because, they would be like unarmed (in unarmed fighting you are using your hands, with claws it would also be your hands and unarmed is precise). Usually smaller weapons are precise, because you can react on the enemy movements. To change the path of your dagger is simpler, than to change the path of your sword.

For a possible solution: Perhaps you could say, that the tusks are precise if you are not charging, if you are charging, they wouldn't be precise.

 

So long,



#4 Guards

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:44 AM

Another thought would be the curve of the tusk they aren't terribly long but the curve allows them go up and under the ribcage, perfect for striking the heart or lungs. A part of his military training involves the use of the species natural weapon, so it would be reasonable in my mind atleast. I can see why others might not think so it's why i made the thread, for opinions.



#5 F3nr1s

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:59 PM

I don't think, that a curved weapon, which is good to strike under the ribcage, should be a precise weapon because of this reason. Nearly every thrusting weapon is good to pierce the eye balls or pierce between the ribs to attack the heart or lung, also most cutting weapons are good to cut through the stomach or neck or windpipe. But all this doesn't mean, that his weapons are precision weapons.

Also, there is an game-rule reason, why powerful weapons are not precise: To have a weapon with base damage 120, which as only half the malus to attack vulnerbility spots are really dead. Oh, I can attack the head with only -30, must only make "10% of life point" damage (which isn't this difficult, if the base damage is high enough, for example, my lvl 5 character has only 120 LP, so 12 LP damage on an vulnerbility spot would be a crit) and if the crit level is high enough the person is knocked out or instantly dead. This could be game breaking.

Perhaps a style module to get the precise tag to the weapon, for around 60 DP, to represent his training to use his tusks as precision weapon, but to get it for free would be to mighty.






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