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#1 Suka044

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

Personal workshop

 

[Click]: Host a program or piece of hardware from your grip on Personal Workshop and place power counters on it equal to its install cost.
1 [Credits]: Remove 1 power counter from a hosted card.
When your turn begins, remove 1 power counter from a hosted card.
When there are no power counters left on a hosted card, install it, ignoring all costs. 
 
Djinn
Djinn can host up to 3 [Memory Units] of non-icebreaker programs.
The memory costs of hosted programs do not count against your memory limit.
[Click], 1 [Credits]: Search your stack for a virus program, reveal it, and add it to your grip. Shuffle your stack. 

I understand what personal workshop is supposed to do but the text of the card would suggest it works like djinn the hosted programs can still be used just not taking up MU slots. With personal workshop it doesn't say anything about not being able to use the hosted programs. The ways it's writen it means that you install them for free and after the last counter comes off you install it off of personal workshop. 

Unless its wrong or I'm missing something here workshop is a crazy good card



#2 radiskull

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:06 PM

The wording is imprecise, to be sure, but there's a big difference - Djinn requires you to take an install action to get a program hosted on it.  Personal Workshop cannot host installed cards, and the only way to get a card on PW is to use its click ability.

Official clarification would be nice, but it's pretty clear that the intent is that cards on Djinn are active and installed, whereas cards hosted on PW are neither.



#3 Suka044

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:51 PM

Well until there is a FAQ for it then we have to play it as its printed and as its printed the hosted cards can be used.



#4 Suka044

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:29 PM

hmmm after reading more and talking a with a few friends i guess the only thing i guess you can say is that since the cards on djinn are installed and hosted and the ones on workshop is just hosted…… but still doesn't make sense and needs some clarification 



#5 Gathrax42

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:04 PM

 

Your right Suka004 About the installed and hosted on Personal workshop.

The difference is that Djinn Provides 3 memory for installed programs, where workshop does not. Since programs from Personal Workshop are only installed after the last power counter comes off, they cannot be used they are only ACTIVE once they are installed and only active cards can be used.

Host and Hosted is how they have the cards reference each other to keep it feeling cyberpunk. 



#6 Amuk

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:26 AM

radiskull said:

The wording is imprecise, to be sure, but there's a big difference - Djinn requires you to take an install action to get a program hosted on it.  Personal Workshop cannot host installed cards, and the only way to get a card on PW is to use its click ability.

Official clarification would be nice, but it's pretty clear that the intent is that cards on Djinn are active and installed, whereas cards hosted on PW are neither.

Agreed. The very fact that PW specifically says that hosted cards are installed when the power counters are removed leaves little doubt that they're not in play to be used while hosted on it.


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Amuk

 

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