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#1 Julia

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

Hi everybody!
A couple of issues arose during my latest games, and I hope some of you could help me in solving the troubles! So, with order:
a) a rival wizard casted Brain burn on me, and I answered with a Pain Link
Question: was it legal for him playing a Pain Link on my Pain Link?
b) second question: Fireball casted. Pain link played in response. Was it legal to play Negate Neutral to cancel the Pain link? Or does Pain Link count as Neutral spell when cast during the caster's turn, and when played as counterspell is it considered as having only the violet icon?
Thanks a lot for help

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#2 ogid

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:38 AM

Hi Julia!

a) Your rival cannot play a pain link on your pain link because pain link isn´t an attack (the trigger of pain link is "When being attacked"). If your enemy had maintained a pain link when you reflected the damage with your pain link the damage wasn´t reflected again because pain link isn´t an attack (otherwise the damage would start to bounce util one is dead).

b) Spells count as the kind of spell it was casted during its whole duration (if you cast it as a counter it works as if only have the violet icon during the whole duration of the spell) hence your rival cannot use negate neutral on it.

I hope it helps complice



#3 Julia

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:36 AM

ogid said:

Hi Julia!

a) Your rival cannot play a pain link on your pain link because pain link isn´t an attack (the trigger of pain link is "When being attacked"). If your enemy had maintained a pain link when you reflected the damage with your pain link the damage wasn´t reflected again because pain link isn´t an attack (otherwise the damage would start to bounce util one is dead).

b) Spells count as the kind of spell it was casted during its whole duration (if you cast it as a counter it works as if only have the violet icon during the whole duration of the spell) hence your rival cannot use negate neutral on it.

I hope it helps complice

Hi Ogid!

Indeed, you helped. B) was also clarified in the FAQ. My bad for not checking before posting, but actually it has sense. As per A)… I didn't consider the chain reaction, but only wondering if "being attacked" could refer also to counterspells. But clearly it's not, because an attack has the red icon. Plus it's specified on the card that the pain link is not an attack, so it's not counterspellable.

Thanks a lot for your help :-)

JULIA


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#4 ogid

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

Hi! I´m glad to help.

At the beggining i was confused with some rules too, but before i started to do my house expansion i tracked the forums looking for offical answers and I noticed this game is pretty well balanced and the limits of every card was very well defined. Even if you don´t like add non official cards if you want to understad a bit more the game I recommend you to look the links to forums in the home expansion, there is a link to every official response (I don´t include redundant responses).

A nuance with the attacks, a card with the red icon is an attack only when it is being casted, but not when it is being maintained unless it is stated, for example, slow death is an attack and it can be countered, but when you are cursed you cannot react to the damage as it would an attack. A wizard with disease entering in your square is the same case. There is another remarkable case with attacks, green cards that lets you to do specials attacks (like stone spikes or strength). In general to evade misunderstandings they stated in the card when it is an attack and when it´s not (cards like disease, pain link, slime form, bushes, backlash…).

Have fun!






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