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#1 xfoley8

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:54 PM

I was just reading the revised rules, and while I think they go a long way to fixing the errata and confusion from the first set, it seems to me that the example of combat with Cthulhu is flawed.  

1.) The example states that Havey Walters started combat with Cthulhu with 3 stamina.  How is this possible, when C's special ability reduces your maximum stamina (and sanity) by 1 for the whole game?  Harvey would start with 2 stamina, in that case.

2.)  I have always played that Cthulhu's combat ability applies to your maximum sanity/stamina, regardless of where it stands when you go in to battle (therefore there would be always be 24-27 rounds of combat with him, regardless of the number of players- 7 days worth).  The example would seem to imply that Harvey went in to battle with only 1 sanity.  Why would Cthulhu's battle damage apply to 'maximums' if you're still battling him with the sanity and stamina that you have when the battle starts?  That would be the same as battling every other AO, so what's the point of using maximums?  Considering his battle ability of putting one doom back at midnight, I have found him pretty hard to beat even with a guaranteed 24 rounds. You'd have to hit him an average of almost 3 times each day to pull it off, which rarely has happened when I fought him- his task is the least likely to come up of all of the AO's (which only makes sense, given that he is Cthulhu).

 



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:52 PM

Bump.

Also, does anyone know if a reprint with the revised rules has been released?

With the new expansion on the horizon, was hoping I could get a better copy than my first edition with errataed cards and rulebook, and so on.



#3 Tibs

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:42 PM

1) Just a mistake. Barring any special bonuses I'm unaware of, he should have a max stamina of 2.

2) This is correct. All investigators should be able to survive exactly 7 attacks. This is the same as in Arkham Horror. And, it is true that Cthulhu is a tough cookie in battle—that's how he was designed.



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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:33 AM

Tromdial said:

Bump.

Also, does anyone know if a reprint with the revised rules has been released?

With the new expansion on the horizon, was hoping I could get a better copy than my first edition with errataed cards and rulebook, and so on.

 

There is a revised edition for sale.


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#5 Tromdial

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:47 PM

klaymen_sk said:

Tromdial said:

 

Bump.

Also, does anyone know if a reprint with the revised rules has been released?

With the new expansion on the horizon, was hoping I could get a better copy than my first edition with errataed cards and rulebook, and so on.

 

 

 

There is a revised edition for sale.

Sweet. Thanks for the info.



#6 Turgul01

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:05 AM

Where are the revised rules for sale at?  I just picked up the game so how would I tell if it has the revised rules or not?  The rules and game show 202 as the copyright.



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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:02 AM

Turgul01 said:

Where are the revised rules for sale at?  I just picked up the game so how would I tell if it has the revised rules or not?  The rules and game show 202 as the copyright.

Look at the number of pages in the booklet. Revised rules are kinda longer (20 pages vs 12, IIRC)


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#8 Turgul01

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:33 PM

Mine has 20, so I guess it is the revised rules.  Thanks!!



#9 Julia

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:05 AM

Turgul01 said:

Mine has 20, so I guess it is the revised rules.  Thanks!!

:) glad I helped! Anyway, if you want to cross-check, look at how spells work: in the revised edition you roll the dice first, and then decide whether to use a spell or not!


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#10 klaymen_sk

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:02 AM

Julia said:

Turgul01 said:

 

Where are the revised rules for sale at?  I just picked up the game so how would I tell if it has the revised rules or not?  The rules and game show 202 as the copyright.

 

 

Look at the number of pages in the booklet. Revised rules are kinda longer (20 pages vs 12, IIRC)

 

Actually, it is even mentioned on the box (right under the game logo).


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#11 Turgul01

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:03 PM

You are right.  It says revised.  Oh lucky me!  Thanks!



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:12 AM

are the investigator cards also corrected in the revised version?

 

or do we maybe get corrected cards for the main game in the expansion?

i think thats the way they made it with arkham horror and dunwich horror. (corrected cards for AH were in the expansion DH)






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