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#1 Pneumonica

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 09:02 AM

Don't you just gotta hate it living so close to the Eye of Terror.  Things inexplicably disappear and then suddenly, equally without explanation, only they seem somehow different... somehow... empty.



#2 Luddite

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 09:35 AM

OK...

Flamers at the ready.

This hulk will probably need purging before it can be returned to the Emperor's Light...



#3 Wilfred Owen

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 09:48 AM

Excellent.  Now we can begin serious discussions on Rogue Trader again.



#4 aethel

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 10:01 AM

Gah! Two forums to keep up with!



#5 Xathess Wolfe

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 10:59 AM

So the question remains, what happened to our old posts?  Kidnapped for vile Xenos experimentations?  Disappeared into the Warp never to be seen again?  Sacrificed to the Chaos Gods?

Do to all these questions, I think a thorough investigation is needed to ensure that Rogue Trader has not been corrupted.

I therefor think that I, Xanthess Wolfe, should be given an advanced copy of the book, to ensure its Purity and that it fits within acceptable limits of the Creed, and has not, during this unexplained disappearance been corrupted.



#6 Kage2020

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 11:09 AM

aethel said:

Gah! Two forums to keep up with!

For me it just means that there is one forum to keep up with.  Dark Heresy can get put back on the metaphorical shelf (since it's actually in the bottom of a bag in the cupboard!). Or possibly shot with a lasgun while muttering, "Boring conversation anyway..." 

Now I can begin my endless whining about electronic versions of the game (which isn't going to happen), and the tongue-in-cheek request for an honesty policy for those that might illicitly acquire a copy!  (I'm kidding...)

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#7 TorogTarkdacil

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 11:30 AM

Emperor above, this is gonna be fun.

 

By the way, there are some pretty nice artworks on the site, altough they aren´t "grimdark enough" in my humble opinion.. who is the artist (meaning cover, rouge trader and astropath artwork)? It doesn´t seem to be Clint Langly´s (sp?) style, but I could be wrong



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Posted 20 February 2009 - 11:46 AM

Please, not the "grimdarkery." 

Based upon the artwork, it seems that Rogue Trader might draw upon a slightly different theme.  Perhaps less early medieval and a bit more Elizabethan...?

Kage



#9 TorogTarkdacil

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 11:52 AM

Kage2020 said:

Please, not the "grimdarkery." 

Based upon the artwork, it seems that Rogue Trader might draw upon a slightly different theme.  Perhaps less early medieval and a bit more Elizabethan...?

Kage

 

Eh, on this I couldn´t agree, there´s never enough of grim darkness in 41st millenium:) But yeah, inspiration with discovery voyages is obvious, perhaps, when there´ll be some sourcebook on Imperial Navy (I realy hope so), we will also see some 18th century British Navy theme



#10 Luddite

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:29 PM

TorogTarkdacil said:

 we will also see some 18th century British Navy theme

 

 

Rum, sodomy and the lash?!

Now there's a game...



#11 Dezmond

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:36 PM

The ships do look remarkably clean and high tech. Almost Tau like!



#12 Pneumonica

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:54 PM

I don't know.  I mean, not counting the crummy perspective drawing (if you look closely, the ship's bent at a 30 degree angle off-axis at its midpoint), the ship looks old.  Most massive things, viewed from a considerable distance, lose a lot of the cracks and flaws, and this one is covered in discoloration that tells me it's been in space for many, many moons.  (Pun intended.)



#13 kennetten

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 10:34 PM

Me thinks it looks cool. Looks like the imperial ships have done now for quite some time.



#14 RedMike

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:57 AM

Besides, if it was Tau, it would be covered with little spoon-like objects, wouldn't it?

I am hoping that the theme is suitably varied rather than any one thing - Rogue traders are eccentric individuals at best so there will not be a set  'look' to them, they could for example affect the dress style of another race, like the Eldar even, or take their cue from any known elements of Terran history - however, the Elizabethan period would fit with its grand explorations and pioneering explorers in theme.

It is hard to see how Dark Heresy could hold a candle to Rogue Trader when it gets released - there is a lot of scope for invention out beyond the light of the Emperor.



#15 llsoth

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 04:16 AM

It very well could be xenos construction (though it does not look like it to me).  RT were allowed that sort of thing back in the day. 

As to to the art being grimdark enough....   err did you look at what the picture depicted or just the color palate?  I mean they have skulls, weapons, skull weapons, and tubes comming out of their heads..  It is hard to ask for more.  Based on the subject of the picture (not just its color palate) I would surmise it to be plenty grimdark.

Pneumonica not sure what you mean by 30 degrees off axis at the mid point?  You mean the optical illusion that the ship is bowed up in the middle or that the nose is bent down (depending on how you view it)? Well actually, it is crooked by 1 or 2 degrees but still I am probably thinking of something else.

 

 



#16 Ripper.McGuirl

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 05:03 AM

I think what he means is that the bulk of the ship is shown in straight profile, but the engines are shown from a partial 3/4 view.



#17 llsoth

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 05:11 AM

Ahh!! I see it now.  I was just assuming there were 7 engine nozzles and left it at that.  But you are right even if there were it does not explain why they appear at a angle.



#18 Pneumonica

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 06:14 AM

llsoth said:

 

Pneumonica not sure what you mean by 30 degrees off axis at the mid point?  You mean the optical illusion that the ship is bowed up in the middle or that the nose is bent down (depending on how you view it)? Well actually, it is crooked by 1 or 2 degrees but still I am probably thinking of something else.

 

 

Ripper.McGuirl said:

 

I think what he means is that the bulk of the ship is shown in straight profile, but the engines are shown from a partial 3/4 view.

 

 

 

Actually, you're both right.  Looking at it as a two-dimensional object, there is a slant of about five degrees at the midpoint of the ship.  Shifting back to three dimensions, the engines are on an dimetric plane (in art terms, the "paritial 3/4" view) while the rest of the ship is in true profile.  If you were to render this image as a three dimensional vessel such that you could orient it in such a way to reprodue the image, you'd have a 30 degree bend off the primary axis of the ship at its midpoint.

Sorry, I do drafting myself and I come from a family of drafters.

EDIT:  Sorry Ilsoth, didn't notice you'd already seen it.  Mea culpa.



#19 Mark It Zero

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 06:22 AM

The engines are definitely drawn badly as far as perspective is concerned.  Makes the ship look like it's bent.


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#20 Starman Kane

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 08:33 AM

Kage2020 said:

 Perhaps less early medieval and a bit more Elizabethan...?Kage
That actually sounds interesting.

I might need to do some research into the Elizabethan ship captains. Me thinks that the exploits of those individuals will give some interesting foundations for RT games.






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