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#1 Cabello

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:17 AM

 So this is unexpected, already have our first expansion announced, and it looks like it has a little bit of everything in it, new monsters, classes, heros, quests, OL class, etc..

Not quite a full new campain as in the base game, but a new one none the less, and it can be used in conjunction with the base game, which i think is neat



#2 Malgamus

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:33 AM

I'm happy to see it and can't wait to pre-order my copy.



#3 eeeealmo

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:56 AM

Also very excited.  Needs more release date info stat. 



#4 Columbob

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:05 AM

Article states later this year. Probably a thinner box than D1 expansions, more like the Forbidden Alchemy box.



#5 Atraangelis

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:07 AM

My wallet is going to cry these next few months……



#6 kingbobb

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:28 AM

I can't tell if it's a new quest or not.  I don't see any new quest sheets, so how do you track the new quests as part of the campaign?  And where on the map are they located?  Hopefully there's a new map with new locations on the back of the Lair quest book.



#7 Rico

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:37 AM

Oh snap! Sign me up.



#8 Cabello

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:43 AM

 So it says it has, what, 5 new quests I think? In any case I believe they are a linear quest line, if they are done on their own that is.



#9 Columbob

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:48 AM

kingbobb said:

I can't tell if it's a new quest or not.  I don't see any new quest sheets, so how do you track the new quests as part of the campaign?  And where on the map are they located?  Hopefully there's a new map with new locations on the back of the Lair quest book.

 

The Rumor cards will likely take care of that, although it's possible a map will be available. Only 2-3 quests will be available in any campaign however.

 

What I wonder is if you choose to do one of these new side-quests, will it be in addition to the 9 campaign quests, or will it replace one of those?



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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:04 AM

is this it?

Seriously i hope this is not going to be 40€ because I am not going to buy this then.
All the 1st edition expansions were 10 times this! Seriously wtf? 2 hero's? 2 monsters ????? 

Ok I can understand this if you take into account for players with the conversion kit, but people like me don't have that.

So I am hoping that this is just a very small expansion for 20€ or dollars w/e. Otherwise this would be bull.



#11 Hadoken

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:21 AM

Banemus said:

2 hero's? 2 monsters

 

but it's more than that.

it's 3 new classes,5 new quests with a new system,a new lieutenant….and others stuffs.

everything is more complex than the v1 expansion and the "just add lot of minis with basic quests that use it" idea.

you can't compare extensions from the v1 and the v2.

 

and the price seems to be 35 dollars.



#12 Columbob

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:50 AM

Yup, 35 dollars.

 

It features about half of the contents of previous expansions for Descent, but that's alright. Easier to playtest, comes out faster, cheaper to buy.



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Posted 16 August 2012 - 10:04 AM

Atraangelis said:

My wallet is going to cry these next few months……

+1



#14 Coldmoonrising

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 10:22 AM

Columbob said:

What I wonder is if you choose to do one of these new side-quests, will it be in addition to the 9 campaign quests, or will it replace one of those?

From what I raid on the official home page that the new quests originate from rumors and stay until played. If played, it'll be taken as 1 of 3 Act 1 quests opening 2 new quests for Act 2…. presumably.



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Posted 16 August 2012 - 12:54 PM

I'm not exactly surprised that D2e is getting expansions, and I am excited by the prospect of additional content, although I have to say I'm a bit worried about how quickly this came out.

D1e suffered from massive issues with rules conflicts and printing errors, all of which lead to the impression that FFg was more concerned with pumping out material and less concerned with making sure it was GOOD.  Now we're getting expansions before the game is even half a year out the door?  I'm very worried that this is the beginning of a long and messy decline for the Descent franchise.

I still intend to buy the base game (I haven't even had time to do that yet!) but I won't be picking up this expansion until I see some assurances from other buyers that it's well balanced and well-printed.

I seriously wanted to see FFG slow down and take their time with new D2e expansions; to make sure we got quality instead of quantity.  Time will tell if they've procured some magic wand to let them do both, I suppose.  My biggest hope now is that D2e was actually finished a long time ago (and just held back by production issues) and that this expansion was actually developed in the year or so it took them to put the base box on shelves.



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Posted 16 August 2012 - 01:04 PM

Steve-O said:

I'm not exactly surprised that D2e is getting expansions, and I am excited by the prospect of additional content, although I have to say I'm a bit worried about how quickly this came out.

D1e suffered from massive issues with rules conflicts and printing errors, all of which lead to the impression that FFg was more concerned with pumping out material and less concerned with making sure it was GOOD.  Now we're getting expansions before the game is even half a year out the door?  I'm very worried that this is the beginning of a long and messy decline for the Descent franchise.

I still intend to buy the base game (I haven't even had time to do that yet!) but I won't be picking up this expansion until I see some assurances from other buyers that it's well balanced and well-printed.

I seriously wanted to see FFG slow down and take their time with new D2e expansions; to make sure we got quality instead of quantity.  Time will tell if they've procured some magic wand to let them do both, I suppose.  My biggest hope now is that D2e was actually finished a long time ago (and just held back by production issues) and that this expansion was actually developed in the year or so it took them to put the base box on shelves.

 

Very very much agreed. I just got the base game and instantly new expansion was announced. I'm not in hurry to play or anything, but it can get quite overwhelming for new players. And considering that there's apparently lot of problems with the base game (while waiting for FAQ…), I believe FFG has some basic improvements to do before going full out with expansions.



#17 KingLz

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 01:39 PM

I don't think FFG rushes thing too much.

Look at the date Descent 2.0 was announced, that was nearly one year ago.

 

If production takes 6-12 month you can suppose this expansion is already done and they already started working on the next one.

I know it might not be that great to skip community feedback at all, but it's just the way business works.

 

If they would start development of the new expansion now, we would have to wait way longer until we get new stuff.

 



#18 Atropos

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:17 PM

I'll be buying this one (of course). I guess with the expansion I was hoping for more classes. At least 4, one for each archatype and forego the heros and monsters. I'm good with the conversion kit to keep things interesting.



#19 Rico

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 06:06 PM

The real question everyone is concerned with is: will it ship with another set of dice?



#20 Himmelweiss

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 06:08 PM

I welcome any new expansion for the 2nd edition. Because at it's current state it's just meh.

So yeah, please bring 10 or more expansions for the 2nd edition in the next couple years so i can build my own campaign with 2nd edition bits since the campaign rules are just too simple (very boring for my group). I need something big like Road to the Legend.

 






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