Jump to content



Photo

New FAQ (1.3), pro-Glaurung


  • Please log in to reply
57 replies to this topic

#1 Dam

Dam

    Member

  • Members
  • 7,290 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:04 AM

Well, new FAQ posted, both Beravor and Protector of Lorien getting nerfed.


"A dirty mind is its own reward."


#2 Pharmboys2013

Pharmboys2013

    Member

  • Members
  • 771 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:10 AM

I think Zigil MIner got the biggest shaft.  Only max of two resources now; neither of which are guarnteed even if you have Imaldris Stargazer.  And you're still losing the top two cards


"His life is charmed, or fate spares him for some other end."

 

 

 


#3 jjeagle

jjeagle

    Member

  • Members
  • 346 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:14 AM

 Thanks for the heads up. Plenty to digest here, but I will just observe that POL isn't nerfed that hard - the restriction is per phase not per round, so you can still get a +9 WP boost in time to take effect when questing is resolved.

I note also that some previous rulings have been reversed, eg on Lost and Alone (hero is not dead for any purposes including player elimination).


"I have no help to send, therefore I must go myself."


#4 richsabre

richsabre

    Tea Drinker of the West

  • Members
  • 4,813 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:24 AM

jjeagle said:

 

 Thanks for the heads up. Plenty to digest here, but I will just observe that POL isn't nerfed that hard - the restriction is per phase not per round, so you can still get a +9 WP boost in time to take effect when questing is resolved.

I note also that some previous rulings have been reversed, eg on Lost and Alone (hero is not dead for any purposes including player elimination).

 

 

im having a hard time understand the PoL….would you mind explaining how you can get 9willpower, i read it as max 3…sorry if it obvious

rich


My Deviantart profile. Infrared Art http://richsabre.deviantart.com/

My Portfolio http://richardbyers.portfoliobox.me/

 


#5 CaffeineAddict

CaffeineAddict

    Member

  • Members
  • 134 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:29 AM

 Well, my primary deck used to pretty heavily rely on beravor, Protector of Lorien and Zigil Miner, so I'm sad to see them get a power-down, but on the other hand…they probably did need it. Ah well, glad I moved to a glorfindel/frodo/aragorn deck and a dwarf deck recently!



#6 impaulm

impaulm

    Member

  • Members
  • 83 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:30 AM

 Well there goes some of my strategy too… I think these changes are smart and make sense. With a couple Zigil Miners you can still take in a lot of resources, and Will of the West and Stargazer prevent any really needed to cards to be discarded, or at lest unavailable.

It's actually nice to see Beravor evened-out some. Bilbo gets a little more powerful.



#7 Bullroarer Took

Bullroarer Took

    Member

  • Members
  • 804 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:31 AM

JJeagle means that you discard three during the resource phase, another three during the planning phase and then the last three at the beginning of the quest phase.

I think that someone at Fantasy Flight is tearing his or her hair out right now.


Nearly all of my comments are from the perspective of the single handed solo player.

#8 richsabre

richsabre

    Tea Drinker of the West

  • Members
  • 4,813 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:33 AM

Bullroarer Took said:

 

JJeagle means that you discard three during the resource phase, another three during the planning phase and then the last three at the beginning of the quest phase.

I think that someone at Fantasy Flight is tearing his or her hair out right now.

 

 

isnt the +3 until the end of the phase only though? so they wouldnt add up?

rich


My Deviantart profile. Infrared Art http://richsabre.deviantart.com/

My Portfolio http://richardbyers.portfoliobox.me/

 


#9 quit

quit

    Member

  • Members
  • 33 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:40 AM

Indeed:

Action: Discard a card from your hand to give attached hero +1 Defense or +1 Willpower until the end of the phase.



#10 quit

quit

    Member

  • Members
  • 33 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:44 AM

However, it now becomes useful to add a second or even a third PoL on the same hero.



#11 DurinIII

DurinIII

    Member

  • Members
  • 555 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:44 AM

 I must be blind, but I can't find the FAQ 1.3. Can someone post a link perhaps? :)



#12 Dain Ironfoot

Dain Ironfoot

    Member

  • Members
  • 645 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:49 AM

DurinIII said:

 I must be blind, but I can't find the FAQ 1.3. Can someone post a link perhaps? :)

 

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=3452



#13 richsabre

richsabre

    Tea Drinker of the West

  • Members
  • 4,813 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:51 AM

quit said:

However, it now becomes useful to add a second or even a third PoL on the same hero.

ah perhaps thats where the 9 willpower comes from…having 3 copies on one hero?


My Deviantart profile. Infrared Art http://richsabre.deviantart.com/

My Portfolio http://richardbyers.portfoliobox.me/

 


#14 Shiv@n

Shiv@n

    Member

  • Members
  • 86 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/lotr-lcg/support/LOTR_FAQ_1.3.pdf



#15 booored

booored

    Member

  • Members
  • 2,002 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

Well we all saw the ziggy nurf coming form the day it was spoiled… Ot is a very very heavy nurf though… going from pulling a max of 18 a turn (witch was just bonkers) (3x Ziggy+ stargazer) to each card pulling a max of 2 and more than likely 1 resource… … even I think that is a little harsh.

at 1 resource Ziggy is not nurff'd.. but executed.. no one will ever use him.. his only real function now is to thin your deck into the graveyard and there are many other cards that do this a lot better. I am all for card adjustment.. but this ISN'T fixing the card.. it is just making it completely irrelevent as if it was nvr printed in the first place..

Ziggy was a disgrace to game design when it was made and this "fix" is just as sloppy … extremely disappoint.

Beravor.. well we all wanted this and it is here… I agree completely…

Protector.. well with out Beravor this card is not really as silly.. but I see nothing wrong.. +3 for 3 cards isn't bad at all still and not stupid.. this is how you fix a card… (see ziggy rant)

Enemy attacking outside of combat phase has no change to how I play.. but yes.. if yo ufollow the rules strict it used to mean no shadow card.. common sense made this a non-issue. but good to see it confirmed.

All in all this is a really good rules update.. apart form ziggy… They needed to do it as the new treasure cards are obiously needing a rule re-rwrite.. "we want a new card.. lets change the base rules to allow it.." I'll let that thinking speak for itself… … .

The only thing I really missed was that I think the Range Attack ordering to allow the same character to untap and attack the same character twice needs to be affirmed and the rules spelt out.. and I would also have like more explicit rullings on attachments and how the yare paid and who controls them,… (see the argument over black orcs and tentical attachments)

Still all in all good update.. well done FFG..


 


"People should be less concerned about whether they are being insulted and more concerned if it is the truth"

#16 The Janitor

The Janitor

    Member

  • Members
  • 21 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:11 AM

Two unneeded errata, and Zigil Miner getting hit way harder then it had to. Neat.  Not to mention that it's game over if one of the player controlling the Dol Guldr captive loses his other heroes, but you're still in the game if the only hero you have left is Lost and Alone? And it looks like shadow cards from attacks outside of combat phase stay around.  All in all, I'm very disappointed.



#17 starhawk77

starhawk77

    Member

  • Members
  • 444 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:20 AM

I'm like a kid on Christmas right now. A new FAQ was way, way overdue. I couldn't care less about the specific errata, but it's nice to have an updated source for rules questions.



#18 Bullroarer Took

Bullroarer Took

    Member

  • Members
  • 804 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:22 AM

 I never used Ziggy.  No one else will now either.


Nearly all of my comments are from the perspective of the single handed solo player.

#19 starhawk77

starhawk77

    Member

  • Members
  • 444 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:37 AM

Bullroarer Took said:

 I never used Ziggy.  No one else will now either.

Eh, I don't know about that. Additional resources are always good. FFG designed a deck around Love of Tales, for goodness' sake. It'll take more thoughtful deck construction, and possibly a few more recursion cards like Erebor Hammersmith, but I think Zigil Miner can still have a place if you aren't running leadership. One or two additional resources every round is still a helpful effect. 



#20 richsabre

richsabre

    Tea Drinker of the West

  • Members
  • 4,813 posts

Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:39 AM

man that missing copy of PoL from the core set is more annoying now……..


My Deviantart profile. Infrared Art http://richsabre.deviantart.com/

My Portfolio http://richardbyers.portfoliobox.me/

 





© 2013 Fantasy Flight Publishing, Inc. Fantasy Flight Games and the FFG logo are ® of Fantasy Flight Publishing, Inc.  All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Contact | User Support | Rules Questions | Help | RSS