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#1 Qingtian

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:47 AM

I just saw this in my local store, and just want to share…



#2 Shadow4ce

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:59 AM

Qingtian said:

I just saw this in my local store, and just want to share…

Pics or it didn't happen!

Any big point descrepencies from DT to DW AP?

Any surprising stats or cool new Special Abilities?

Any errata that wasn't in the errata PDF?



#3 blkdymnd

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:57 AM

Shadow4ce said:

Qingtian said:

 

I just saw this in my local store, and just want to share…

 

 

Pics or it didn't happen!

Any big point descrepencies from DT to DW AP?

Any surprising stats or cool new Special Abilities?

Any errata that wasn't in the errata PDF?

I only want to know if there are any new axis and ally company builds

 



#4 Farvo702

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:14 AM

Got mine on saturday, No new axis or allied platoons. They just added the new tanks which you can take if it says any medium walker in the platoon structure.

The SSU only has 2 platoons, a defense and a political platoon.

Defense platoons are led by the command group and can include commisars as a support. Most of the actual platoon lists involve the figures already released, the only ones I don't have in my collection currently are the airdropped tanks and the attack chopper.

The political platoon is led by a commisar squad they can take a chopper as an extra support. Same platoon list structure as defense.

I'm running a list tonight.

Defense platoon:

1x command squad

2x rifle squad

1xgrandma and whats her face

1x rocket commisar

1x badass commisar

1x badass commisar

1x rifle commisar

upgrade political importance(lets me take the 2 extra commisars

political platoon:

1x commisar squad

2x close combat squad

2x transport choppers

upgrade air cavalry (lets me hop out of chopper after activation)

should be close to 300 like 299 or something(I can't tell for sure subbed one of the solo commisars out after realizing cc squad has assault already)

Other than that its just air rules compulsary movement unless you have hover, and no more than 90 deg turns unless you have hover. Choppers have 12 inch move. Ohhh yeah and no reload on the molotovs(AWESOME!!!).

If you have any other questions let me know.



#5 Farvo702

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:21 AM

Ohh sorry shadow4ce heres the answers to your questions:

1. all the squads seem to be about 20 points except volunteers who are 15, tanks are decently cheap. Same price for everything else.

2. They have the same special abilities as the last even down to the flip of the dice roll. Strategic genius is different, I'll have to read it again didn't pay much attention to it since I don't have the mini.

3. No extra errata only new rules.



#6 blkdymnd

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:33 AM

 Do the platoon structures emphasize anything? (like a lot of armor, a lot of air power, etc)



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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:46 AM

 Any new axis and allies platoons?



#8 blkdymnd

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

Dakkon426 said:

 Any new axis and allies platoons?

Already answered as no :(



#9 blkdymnd

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:52 AM

 Is the book softcover or hardcover?  



#10 Dakkon426

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:10 PM

Dakkon426 said:

 Any new axis and allies platoons?

Fail, guess I missed that part.



#11 Farvo702

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:30 PM

Its a softcover book.

The focus seems to be on numbers. SSU commisars have the ability to join 2 of the same units together. I'm actually arguing on whether I should join the 2 rifle squads into 1 unit. The units seem to be very strong against infantry 2 and about the same against 3 as allies. The fun comes in the creative use of the commisars and air transports.



#12 Shadow4ce

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:48 PM

 Please tell me about the Wotan…

Schwere LaserKanon Range?

Is it 2/3 vs all vehicle types?



#13 Shadow4ce

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:05 PM

 Also, is this a legal list? (It's all I own so far of SSU). 

  • Koshka & Gran'ma
  • SSU Command Squad
  • SSU Rifle Squad
  • SSU Close Combat Squad
  • SSU Airborne Transport with Chinese Volunteers
  • Nadya Medium Walker

 If so, how many AP?



#14 Farvo702

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:18 PM

You're list is legal (except the chinese volunteers but I think they're good sorry don't have the book in front of me) and it's 214 points.

Ohhh and my friend you will enjoy the Wotan

2/4 laser against armor 4 and 2/3 against anything armor 6 or above

I think it's 2/5 against armor 3



#15 emilio68it

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

Any idea for the release in pdf?



#16 felkor

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:56 PM

Is the book worth getting for someone who just plays Axis and Allies?  Or is the only thing such a person would want out of it is the stats for the new medium walkers?



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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:05 AM

felkor said:

Is the book worth getting for someone who just plays Axis and Allies?  Or is the only thing such a person would want out of it is the stats for the new medium walkers?

Pretty sure it has rules for a campaign too.



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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:46 AM

felkor said:

Is the book worth getting for someone who just plays Axis and Allies?  Or is the only thing such a person would want out of it is the stats for the new medium walkers?

 

I would suggest getting it because they have flyer rules which one day you may end up playing someone who has flyers and you'll keep going "They can do what now!?" Also It has two new tank Variants for Allies (Cobra and Rattler) and 2 new tank variants for Axis (Flam luther and the Lazer one) 



#19 felkor

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 03:21 AM

I don't know anyone else with the game - I play mainly with my wife and a couple of friends - don't see me playing against SSU any time soon.

But I definitely plan on getting flyers for the Axis and Allied units when they are released, so when that time comes, perhaps I will pick up the book.

Thanks!



#20 Shadow4ce

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 03:32 AM

 Yeah Felkor, in your position I'd probably hold off. However, when I get my hands on my copy later today, I'll PM you if there's something in it I'd want if I were in your position. 

 

@ Emilio68it - I wouldn't hold my breath for a PDF of this one. I'm hopeful, but it's a $20 softcover which they may not do in PDF. If they do, it could be months down the road based on FFG's PDF releases in the past. Dust Warfare Core Rules were an anomaly due to selling out of the entire 1st print run in record time. They didn't want to lose momentum, as rules sales = model sales = profit. 






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