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#1 Hellfury

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:02 AM

http://www.cardgamed...mbda-lambda-r82

With the introduction of a few great nerd characters in the Revelations cycle comes a quicker rush deck for nerds.



#2 badash56

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:14 AM

Nice, I like the new look of Misk rush.  One suggestion would be 'Foiled!' to deal with negotium, or possibly Ice Shaft to use with Marcus.  It seems like you can do a lot with Marcus in Misk decks so far.



#3 Hellfury

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:28 AM

badash56 said:

One suggestion would be 'Foiled!' to deal with negotium…

 

Foiled! is indeed a great card and is an excellent suggestion for this deck. It has been in an out of it depending on what point I am in fiddling around the deck. I still have yet to find a good middle ground in what to remove in order to keep the deck at 50 cards and still keep Foiled! in though.

But if any deck can profit from Foiled! (and be easily hindered by Negotium Perambulans in Tenebris) it would be this one.

Another really effective answer is the use of Beneath the Surface. But the cost of 4 is a huge drawback despite its usefulness and doesn't really fit too well with the minimal resources required for this deck to operate optimally as it would with Foiled! in its place.



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Posted 26 June 2012 - 09:33 AM

Hmmm, based on the list, if it were me I would take out either Rabbit's Foot or Scientific Text, and replace with Foiled!.  Or if you like the utility of those cards, take out 1x of Rabbit's Foot, Scientific Text, and Atwood Science Hall maybe.  Always a tough choice though. :)



#5 kamacausey

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 02:17 PM

 Since we're all talking about mono nerd rush I'll share mine and let's compare. This is what I got so far:

3 dr carson

3 medical student

3 research assistant

3 laboratory assistant

3 professor of folklore

3 archaeology interns

3 obsessive insomniac 

3 cafeteria lady

3 chess prodigy

3 dr laban shrewsberry

2 descendant of eibon

2 dr mya badry

2 marcus jamburg


3 infirmary

3 open for inspection

2 black market artifact


3 binding 

3 dr carsons treatment

 

 

 

 



#6 kamacausey

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 02:48 PM

 I was very surprised not to see dr mya badry in your list. She is soooo good for the nerds! Also, there really isn't much more efficient card draw than the obsessive insomniac. The cafeteria lady is also really good at shoring up a weakness for the nerds by exhausting any character with a terror icon, including ancient ones. I cant count how many times I've stopped a yglonac from wreaking me by just making him "eat corn" every turn. Other than those dr laban shrewsberry is an experiment. I thought he comboed well with the interns. He is either card draw or helps prolong ancient ones from wreaking you. After playing this list a few times I think it could benefit from eldrich nexus since there are so many 1 drops in the deck. What to take out though? Let me hear your thoughts.



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Posted 27 June 2012 - 03:25 PM

kamacausey said:

I was very surprised not to see dr mya badry in your list. She is soooo good for the nerds!

Also, there really isn't much more efficient card draw than the obsessive insomniac.

The cafeteria lady is also really good at shoring up a weakness for the nerds by exhausting any character with a terror icon, including ancient ones. I cant count how many times I've stopped a yglonac from wreaking me by just making him "eat corn" every turn.

Other than those dr laban shrewsberry is an experiment. I thought he comboed well with the interns. He is either card draw or helps prolong ancient ones from wreaking you.

After playing this list a few times I think it could benefit from eldrich nexus since there are so many 1 drops in the deck. What to take out though? Let me hear your thoughts.

I like Badry a lot. The only reason why I did not include her is because her ability is highly conditional. Granted, in the current meta where destruction is so prevalent, you would think her an auto include. But the one thing that made me decide against her was a simple matter of cost. I try to keep the tempo of 3 cost to a really low count and (for me anyways) I find Eryn to be a better bargain for that slot.

Insomniac is a good card in the right circumstances, but I get a better tempo from using cards like Scientific Text which compliments other cards like Soothsayer and Museum Curator, etc. quite well.

Cafeteria Lady is pretty good as well, but (again for my play style with the chosen cards in the deck) I find her inefficient. great ability but no icons. The only exception I made for the lack of investigation in this deck was Museum Curator because of his ability complimenting the rest of the deck so well. Soothsayer doesn't count as she can get any icons she wishes. I choose to combat Terror by using the counselor, soothsayer, dr. carson and the hall school.

I haven't really toyed with Dr. Laban yet. I think he has potential waiting to happen to get rid of ancient ones who are typically villainous.

I think Eldritch Nexus deserves its own massive article. It is a card with such huge potential, yet lacks inclusion in many decks. I think it is best used in decks with a lot of potential in play. That potential being cards like Shotgun. I will say that rush could benefit from it because I won a game at regionals because I had Cthulhu out and had controlled the board well enough that I could destroy 3 characters every turn while he could only play 3 characters every turn due to the amount of domains he had. If he had more, then he could have broken the lock I had and possibly won the game. This is not typical though, but I think people should try Nexus more often and find where it does and does not work for them. I would take Dr. Carson's treatment out in order to fit it in if it were my deck.



#8 kamacausey

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 05:18 PM

 I see what you're saying about them not being efficient enough characters which on one hand i totally agree. On the other hand though I don't look at them as characters. I look at them as a support-esque type of card. If there was a 2 drop support out there that said exhaust it to exhaust a character with a terror icon a lot of people would play that card. Same thing goes for obsessive insomniac. Who wouldn't play a 2 drop support that said exhaust it to draw a card. Now I realize it's much easier to get rid of characters than support cards but that is the thought process behind my choosing those cards for my deck. I hope that kind of gives you some insight to why I chose them. Not that they are the correct choice, but the choice i made nonetheless.



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Posted 27 June 2012 - 06:06 PM

With the amount of card draw in both decks, Scientific Texts, Interns, Insomniacs, Shrewbury etc you could consider one or two copies of Prof Morgan. Willpower and Toughness and ahead of curve that includes Panic, catasphrophic explosion, and that restricted conspiracy card



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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:09 AM

kamacausey said:

Not that they are the correct choice, but the choice i made nonetheless.

They may very well be the correct choice.

Deckbuilding is much more than which cards you choose but also on your playstyle, how well you know the cards you use and how well you use them within the knowledge of the rules.

I have seen some incredibly 'inefficient' decks straight up waffle stomp me consistently when I could have swore there was no good reason for them to.

So I think that for your deck and how you play it, the cards you mentioned may very well be the absolute correct choice to make.

That is likely where the real difficulty lies in discussing deck builds, is the tactics in how you make use of them. All too often decks are just laid out with nary a cogent explanation of the strategy or the thought patterns behind their choices.

Unfortunately, since the end of the CCG era, we have not seen many really compelling articles for the game. People like Chris Long used to dedicate entire webpages to what factions align well with which other factions and why. While those same articles still hold relevance today, they lack the specificity that could be useful in today's cardpool.

So I feel it is important that when laying out a deck list that some explanation of the hows and why should be included. And why I think the rationale you gave for the choices in your particular deck is absolutely correct. :)



#11 Danigral

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:28 AM

kamacausey said:

 

Same thing goes for obsessive insomniac. Who wouldn't play a 2 drop support that said exhaust it to draw a card. Now I realize it's much easier to get rid of characters than support cards but that is the thought process behind my choosing those cards for my deck. I hope that kind of gives you some insight to why I chose them. Not that they are the correct choice, but the choice i made nonetheless.

 

 

Scientific Text is a 2-drop support that says draw a card http://www.cardgamed...ntific-Text-SoA - Hellfury has this in his deck.

Might be a good inclusion instead of or in addition to the insomniac. I like him, don't get me wrong, but I used him in a dreamer heavy MU/agency deck with Sleep Therapist to get flexible ready/draw. SciText can also be recurred with Jamburg.



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Posted 28 June 2012 - 11:30 AM

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kamacausey said:

 

Same thing goes for obsessive insomniac. Who wouldn't play a 2 drop support that said exhaust it to draw a card. Now I realize it's much easier to get rid of characters than support cards but that is the thought process behind my choosing those cards for my deck. I hope that kind of gives you some insight to why I chose them. Not that they are the correct choice, but the choice i made nonetheless.

 

 

Scientific Text is a 2-drop support that says draw a card http://www.cardgamed...ntific-Text-SoA - Hellfury has this in his deck.

Might be a good inclusion instead of or in addition to the insomniac. I like him, don't get me wrong, but I used him in a dreamer heavy MU/agency deck with Sleep Therapist to get flexible ready/draw. SciText can also be recurred with Jamburg.

Yes, you are correct but you have to attach it to a character so it limits when you can send that character to a story because if they go insane you lose the card. Granted, marcus helps out with that issue but that is why i prefer him over the scientific text. That being said I still like scientific text and is one of m.u. best card draw.






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