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#1 Brother Praetus

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 05:45 AM

Hello,

I am a little leery of the $20 price tag on the BETA copy of the book.  Is there going to be a discount given to participants on the final product when it becomes available in PDF?

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#2 Durandal7

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 06:15 AM

I share this gentleman's concerns. I was extremely fired up when I saw the open beta advert! But with a $20 tag?

That's no open beta I recognize!

Unless there is some benefit to dropping $20, for a beta no less, then I shall stay clear. Which is a great shame as I'm extremely keen on 40k, have all the other 40k RPG's and have been an active(ish) member of the DW community and provided player and gm aids free of charge and in my own time.

An open beta is a great notion, regardless.  Mayhap the spelling shall improve at release

 

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#3 Bearcat89

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 06:35 AM

That makes three of us, so far.  Why on earth would I fork over $20 for an incomplete and possibly flawed version of the core rules?  Will this follow with a $20 discount on a future purchase of the completed core rulebook?  Or better yet, a free upgrade to the completed core rulebook (as compensation for playtesting and providing feedback to FFG)?  I love DH and DW, but I am not hard core enough to dive in blind for $20.



#4 MyNeighbourTrololo

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 06:51 AM

I troll'd too. 



#5 scythemonkey

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 06:54 AM

 If your goal is to get as much feedback as possible, make the beta free.  Like every other beta.

 

If your goal is to make pre-sales, be clearer about the fact that we will get a $20 credit (minimum) towards the final book.

 

If your goal is to charge people for a beta, then you are sadly misguided.



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Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:33 AM

Hello all,

We understand your concerns regarding the cost of the Only War beta, and would like to clarify a few important points:

  • The Only War beta is a complete, 256-page playable version of Only War; the only difference is that it omits certain art pieces and background “flavor” that will be present in the final version. This product has already undergone extensive development, playtesting, and refinement, and we have no doubt that it’s ready to provide hours of enjoyment.
  • Of course, you should also bear in mind that Only War beta test participants have an opportunity to experience the game months before they otherwise would.
  • Finally, as an added benefit, anyone who downloads the Only War beta from drivethrurpg.com or rpgnow.com will receive a $20 discount on the pdf version of the Only War Core Rulebook when it becomes available in the fall. Simply download the beta, and when the electronic version of the full rulebook goes live in a few months, you’ll receive the necessary coupon code for use on drivethrurpg.com or rpgnow.com.

As always, thanks for your support!



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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:51 AM

 Sounds fair to me, off to buy my copy.  I'm sure it's great work as always, love your 40k series!



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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:53 AM

Durandal7 said:

An open beta is a great notion, regardless.  Mayhap the spelling shall improve at release

 

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You must have missed the part where they said to not try to proofread every paragraph. I guess that's what their paid proofreaders are for!



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Posted 22 June 2012 - 11:01 AM

ffgMark said:

  • Finally, as an added benefit, anyone who downloads the Only War beta from drivethrurpg.com or rpgnow.com will receive a $20 discount on the pdf version of the Only War Core Rulebook when it becomes available in the fall. Simply download the beta, and when the electronic version of the full rulebook goes live in a few months, you’ll receive the necessary coupon code for use on drivethrurpg.com or rpgnow.com.

As always, thanks for your support!

Good news!  You really should have made this point much more clearly on the download page over at drivethrurpg.com in order to avoid these very questions.



#10 paradiddlebob

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 03:30 PM

 Naaaaaaah. Count me out.



#11 Librarian

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:12 PM

 drive thru rpg often dose bundle deals where you purchase the hard copy and a pdf copy at a reduced price on the pdf, if this 20$ off was also applicable to that bundle deal it would be a very nice bonus, given the book+pdf is often around 20-25$ more than just the book it would get you the pdf for more or less free with purchase of the hard copy through drive thru rpg.



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Posted 22 June 2012 - 11:43 PM

Bearcat89 said:

Why on earth would I fork over $20 for an incomplete and possibly flawed version of the core rules?


I just want to make this incredibly clear:

1. The rules are complete. Every rule from the rulebook is there. What's missing is some artwork, some layout flourishes, and the background/fluff sections. It's still a Core Rulebook like any other, with all the rules present.
2. This is the post revision, post-play-testing version of the rules. Calling them 'flawed' would be a mistake.
3. It's in B&W rather than colour, but that's to save space. 


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 03:49 AM

Alpha Chaos:

Not to try and read every paragraph? Well that explains much! I chuckled to myself when I saw Asdrubael Vect's name spelt Asdrubael Vest in Black Crusade!  (Page 344, Column 2, Paragraph 1, Line 5)


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#14 Brother Praetus

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 08:35 AM

ffgMark said:

  • Finally, as an added benefit, anyone who downloads the Only War beta from drivethrurpg.com or rpgnow.com will receive a $20 discount on the pdf version of the Only War Core Rulebook when it becomes available in the fall. Simply download the beta, and when the electronic version of the full rulebook goes live in a few months, you’ll receive the necessary coupon code for use on drivethrurpg.com or rpgnow.com.

As always, thanks for your support!

 

This is exactly the response I was hoping.  Now to grab it up, read through it so I am at least familiar with any changes, and then see if I might convince one of my non-40K groups to give it a try.

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#15 Alpha Chaos 13

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:50 AM

Durandal7 said:

Alpha Chaos:

Not to try and read every paragraph? Well that explains much! I chuckled to myself when I saw Asdrubael Vect's name spelt Asdrubael Vest in Black Crusade!  (Page 344, Column 2, Paragraph 1, Line 5)

His clothing is so evil, it is referred to as a seperate entity! You don't want to see the stats for Asdrubael Boxer-briefs! Scary.



#16 TheDarkeldar

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 09:15 AM

Looking at all this, does this mean that Only War will not be available for purchase at GenCon this year?



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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:43 AM

Alpha Chaos 13 said:

Durandal7 said:

 

Alpha Chaos:

Not to try and read every paragraph? Well that explains much! I chuckled to myself when I saw Asdrubael Vect's name spelt Asdrubael Vest in Black Crusade!  (Page 344, Column 2, Paragraph 1, Line 5)

 

 

His clothing is so evil, it is referred to as a seperate entity! You don't want to see the stats for Asdrubael Boxer-briefs! Scary.

 

Good grief! I shudder to think what evil his Boxer-briefs are capable of!


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 07:02 PM

TheDarkeldar said:

Looking at all this, does this mean that Only War will not be available for purchase at GenCon this year?

General conjecture is that it won't be available at GenCon.  I think that it will be since they are looking toward doing a fall release.



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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:02 AM

Armand23 said:

General conjecture is that it won't be available at GenCon.  I think that it will be since they are looking toward doing a fall release.

Yeah, I got spoiled with the last 3 core books being available at GenCon that I waited at the door closest to the FFG area, so I could dash in and pick them up as soon as the exhibitor hall opened.  Doesn't seem to be much need to be in a hurry this year.



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Posted 06 July 2012 - 06:38 AM

TheDarkeldar said:

Armand23 said:

 

General conjecture is that it won't be available at GenCon.  I think that it will be since they are looking toward doing a fall release.

 

 

Yeah, I got spoiled with the last 3 core books being available at GenCon that I waited at the door closest to the FFG area, so I could dash in and pick them up as soon as the exhibitor hall opened.  Doesn't seem to be much need to be in a hurry this year.

 

To be fair, last year they had enough copies of Black Crusade to last the whole Con.  I know they still had them on Saturday at least…

 

But yeah, since the Beta ends the week -after- Gen Con.  I imagine it isn't coming.

 

Just chalk me up as another person who is a bit bummed this discount won't be able to be applied to a Hard Copy, because I don't really like PDFs, books are much easier to reference most of the time in gaming due to an instinctive knowledge of where to open to.    So while I paid for the Beta to 'get' the game for now, I likely just spent an extra 20 bucks on it…  though I suppose since I have this it'll be easy enough to wait for Amazon to get it and I'll still come out ahead of if I got it from Gen Con at full price.






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