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#1 thejughead

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:09 AM

Ok, so I thinking of going to a tournament. I've checked some of the winning builds of 2011.  It looks like that most players prefer the Lothar/beobachter army combo, to out artillery and out activate the opponent.  These armies are legal, but it seems it pushes the gameplay to the metagame boundary.

Personally, I prefer mixed armies and objective based scoring. That is not always the case in tournaments. I definitely want to use the Allies, but I'm not sure that either of these armies can out duel the  Lothar/Beobachtr combo or Gorilla/Zombie combo.  Here it goes:

Army 1

160 points

OZZ 117 + Tank Busters, Rhino + Grim Reapers, Steel Rain, 4 X 13 Foxtrot.

Army 2

OZZ 117 + Tank Busters, Rhino + Grim Reapers, NCO Command Squad, 4 x 13 Foxtrot.

Do either of these stand a chance?

Lastly, I don't want to offend anyone regarding the cheese comments, its all in good fun as I'm concerned.



#2 Dakkon426

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:55 AM

thejughead said:

Ok, so I thinking of going to a tournament. I've checked some of the winning builds of 2011.  It looks like that most players prefer the Lothar/beobachter army combo, to out artillery and out activate the opponent.  These armies are legal, but it seems it pushes the gameplay to the metagame boundary.

Personally, I prefer mixed armies and objective based scoring. That is not always the case in tournaments. I definitely want to use the Allies, but I'm not sure that either of these armies can out duel the  Lothar/Beobachtr combo or Gorilla/Zombie combo.  Here it goes:

Army 1

160 points

OZZ 117 + Tank Busters, Rhino + Grim Reapers, Steel Rain, 4 X 13 Foxtrot.

Army 2

OZZ 117 + Tank Busters, Rhino + Grim Reapers, NCO Command Squad, 4 x 13 Foxtrot.

Do either of these stand a chance?

Lastly, I don't want to offend anyone regarding the cheese comments, its all in good fun as I'm concerned.

Both look good from tourney prospective, As someone who uses the lothar army you could beat it with either if you played right but it is not terribly effective vs A3 iether. In most cases i use beobatcher to balance out the lack of activation from using pricy units rather then just trying to outactivate them by 10:1. also consider 2 obs. And a sniper, snipers are excelent combat units. I recently had a single spooter model take out 2 grim reaper models and single handedly save my flank.

 



#3 thejughead

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:02 AM

Dakkon,

 

Thanks.  I realize no plan is full proof, but I'm just looking for a fighting chance.  Does A3 = Artillery??

 

Your Army builder is great, but there is a small bug when you double click the slide bar on the unit list.  It adds the last unit who had focus to the army list.

 

Thanks again.



#4 Dakkon426

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:23 AM

 A3 = armor 3 infantry. Also thanx for the bug report.






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