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#1 AnotherHorrorFan

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 06:30 PM

 I have to admit that since I collect all 4 lcgs at the moment in varying degrees, this whole cycle still being in the old style has really stopped me from going all out on Call of Cthulhu. Has there been any buzz about Dreamlands getting the Summons of the Deep treatment? Since Defenders of the North and King's Landing are getting similar treatment in Game of Thrones I am hoping this is more probable. 



#2 dboeren

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:26 PM

Nothing official has been said yet that I know of, but you're not alone in waiting for this...



#3 plasticXO

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:33 AM

5 out of the 6 packs are now sold-out, I was wondering the same about the reprint with the 3x format… Any hope ?



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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:36 AM

Some long out of print and highly desirable packs for A Game of Thrones were recently announced for a reprint.  I think we're pretty sure to get a reprint eventually, and if 5 of the 6 packs are really OOP then that would seem to be a good sign.



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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:57 AM

dboeren said:

and if 5 of the 6 packs are really OOP then that would seem to be a good sign.

Well, according to FFG's online shop. There might be stocks in local retailers though…



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Posted 06 July 2012 - 01:50 AM

I haven't heard anything definitive, but they have already reprinted two full cycles in the new format, so I think that's a positive indication that Dreamlands may be eligible for the same treatment - particularly since it is nearly out of stock.  FFG has gotten serious about reprints in recent years, which is a good thing.

At the same time, this would be a great opportunity to include errata and possibly even a redesign of problematic cards - the Dreamlands cycle has one banned card, two restricted, and a host of errata, would be great to have those be addressed in a new print.

I am fairly hopeful that we'll hear an announcement of a reprint soon.  Call of Cthulhu may be behind A Game of Thrones on the priority list, but it is not (sadly ) nearly as far down the list as Warhammer: Invasion, which may never see any reprints.



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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:06 AM

Runix said:

At the same time, this would be a great opportunity to include errata and possibly even a redesign of problematic cards - the Dreamlands cycle has one banned card, two restricted, and a host of errata, would be great to have those be addressed in a new print.

I wouldn't mind that, but have they done such thing before?  It's tricky to have two different versions of a card out there…



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Posted 06 July 2012 - 07:58 PM

 +1 for reprint [3x of course]

FAQ errata is already printed on some card versions, i see no problems… older ones also work this way but you need to remember it. Getting better wording that doesnt change effect is tricky, but if they can manage it it would also be nice. And shure they have, my Aspiring Artist is the new, crappy version (too much nerf i think, but i dont know the reason/combo he was nerfed because of)

What are dreamlands banned cards? Interrogation is in summons, Magah birds are in dreamlands, but i dont think not printing them makes any sense if only for collectors purposes. This pack might use some better cards but i dont think adding new cards to old cycle is a good idea.



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Posted 07 July 2012 - 09:56 AM

I'm sure they'd still include Magah Birds.  Too much complaining if it were cut, after all there are groups that still like to play with mixed white and black border cards so I'm sure someone wants to use this too.  Also, we've seen cards come off the restricted list before, so it's not inconceivable that cards could come off the banned list I suppose (they'd probably move to restricted).

Just to sweeten the pot an insignificant amount, if FFG reprints Dreamlands I promise to finally pick up that 3rd Core set I keep putting off.



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Posted 07 July 2012 - 06:45 PM

dboeren said:

Runix said:

 

At the same time, this would be a great opportunity to include errata and possibly even a redesign of problematic cards - the Dreamlands cycle has one banned card, two restricted, and a host of errata, would be great to have those be addressed in a new print.

 

I wouldn't mind that, but have they done such thing before?  It's tricky to have two different versions of a card out there…

They did do that for a few cards. I think Descendent of Eibon, Aspiring Artist, and a few others (very minor, basically fixing typos). The old versions just have to follow the errata like usual, while the new cards reflect the errata on the card.



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Posted 07 July 2012 - 06:49 PM

.Zephyr. said:

Aspiring Artist is the new, crappy version (too much nerf i think, but i dont know the reason/combo he was nerfed because of)

There really wasnt a combo I know of that was the reason for the early ban, he was just too efficient of a card for Hastur. Even Nerds do not get that sort of efficiency in card draw that he got.

I agree the nerf bat was a bit too harsh on the aspiring artist, but at least it is a playable card again instead of just sitting in the binder…



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Posted 08 July 2012 - 11:10 AM

Is the Magah Bird also fixable with errata?  I really think it could get away with being restricted.  Compared to some other cards on the list it doesn't seem that broken.



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Posted 08 July 2012 - 04:54 PM

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Is the Magah Bird also fixable with errata?  I really think it could get away with being restricted.  Compared to some other cards on the list it doesn't seem that broken.

As I understand it, the main issue with the Magah Bird was that it was part of a strategy based on very rapid deployment of characters to quickly win a story, then getting out The Seventy Steps to slow down the other player and going on to win the game.

I don't think Magah Bird was a problem on its own; it was in combination with The Seventy Steps and other super-fast characters like (the old) Aspiring Artist and Sewer Rats that it was a problem.  Since those other cards have either been errata'd or restricted, I'm not sure it's as much of a threat any more.  Also, a lot of decks now have plenty of destruction and removal.  I personally don't think it would be a problem to move it from banned to restricted.



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Posted 08 July 2012 - 08:40 PM

I don't think there is any point in removing the banned cards from a reprint.

Outside a competitive environment, why couldn't they be played with house rules ?



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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:32 AM

Now that FFG has announced that Call of Cthulhu will no longer have monthly packs but will be switching to a 3-times-per-year boxed expansion, some people are speculating that the Dreamlands reprint may be a boxed expansion as well.

However, Dreamlands contains 360 cards while the boxed expansions only contain 165, so if they did I wonder if they would either split it into two separate boxed expansions or perhaps just put them all in one box and raise the price to reflect the greater number of cards.



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Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:43 PM

I could see them reissuing on box format, but I would imagine that that would be a certain amount of work.  It may be easier to just use the existing design for the monthly packs and add in a few fixes and updates.



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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:28 AM

Maybe core sets 1 of each and 120 cards?

2 of each like secrets would be bad, but also viable.

Maybe two boxes of 180? Part I and Part II?

I only hope they will reprint in a format that makes getting 3x easy.



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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:59 PM

 I'm betting on a box of 120, each card x1.



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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:37 AM

I like part 1, part 2 better but will take what I can get :)



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Posted 28 July 2012 - 03:05 PM

I wanted to pick up the Twilight Horror AP to get Twilight Cannibal, but the cheapest I can find it for is $50…






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