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#1 juicebox

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:44 PM

Hi Everybody,

For the purpose of creating various theme decks and what not, I thought it would be fun to have a consolidated organized listing of heroes by various traits. Please feel free to help me out with this project if you have more ideas for groupings. As long as there’s interest, I can keep this post updated as we receive more heroes. (Note: Heroes who have been previewed but are yet to be released are listed in italics.)


Gender

Male: Aragorn, Bifur, Bilbo Baggins, Boromir, Brand son of Bain, Dáin Ironfoot, Denethor, Dúnhere, Dwalin, Elladan, Elrohir, Frodo Baggins, Gimli, Glóin, Glorfindel, Legolas, Prince Imrahil, Théodred, Thalin

Female: Beravor, Éowyn, Eleanor
 

Race

Dwarf: Bifur, Dáin Ironfoot, Dwalin, Gimli, Glóin, Thalin

Elf: Elladan, Elrohir, Glorfindel, Legolas

Hobbit: Bilbo Baggins, Frodo Baggins

Men: Aragorn, Beravor, Boromir, Brand son of Bain, Denethor, Dúnhere, Eleanor, Éowyn, Prince Imrahil, Théodred
 

Traits

Dale: Brand son of Bain

Dúnedain: Aragorn, Beravor

Dwarf: Bifur, Dáin Ironfoot, Dwalin, Gimli, Glóin, Thalin

Gondor: Boromir, Denethor, Eleanor, Prince Imrahil

Hobbit: Bilbo Baggins, Frodo Baggins

Noble: Aragorn, Boromir, Denethor, Eleanor, Elladan, Elrohir, Éowyn, Gimli, Glóin, Glorfindel, Legolas, Prince Imrahil, Théodred

Noldor: Elladan, Elrohir, Glorfindel

Ranger: Aragorn, Beravor, Elladan, Elrohir

Rohan: Dúnhere, Éowyn, Théodred

Silvan: Legolas

Steward: Denethor

Warrior: Boromir, Dúnhere, Gimli, Glorfindel, Legolas, Thalin, Théodred


Keywords

Sentinel: Aragorn

Ranged: Brand son of Bain, Legolas


Sphere of Influence

Leadership: Aragorn, Dáin Ironfoot, Elrohir, Glóin, Prince Imrahil, Théodred

Lore: Bifur, Bilbo Baggins, Beravor, Denethor, Glorfindel

Spirit: Dwalin, Eleanor, Éowyn, Dúnhere, Frodo Baggins

Tactics: Boromir, Brand son of Bain, Elladan, Gimli, Legolas, Thalin
 

Card Stats

Threat Cost:

12 – Aragorn, Glorfindel
11 – Boromir, Dáin Ironfoot, Gimli, Prince Imrahil
10 – Beravor, Brand son of Bain, Elladan, Elrohir
9 – Bilbo Baggins, Dwalin, Éowyn, Glóin, Legolas, Thalin
8 – Denethor, Dúnhere, Théodred
7 – Bifur, Eleanor, Frodo Baggins

Willpower Strength:

4 – Éowyn
3 – Glorfindel
2 – Aragorn, Beravor, Bifur, Brand son of Bain, Elladan, Elrohir, Frodo Baggins, Gimli, Glóin, Prince Imrahil
1 – Boromir, Bilbo Baggins, Dáin Ironfoot, Denethor, Dúnhere, Dwalin, Eleanor, Legolas, Thalin, Théodred

Attack Strength:

3 – Aragorn, Boromir, Elladan (with Elrohir), Glorfindel, Legolas, Prince Imrahil
2 – Beravor, Brand son of Bain, Dáin Ironfoot, Dwalin, Elrohir, Gimli, Glóin, Dúnhere, Thalin, Théodred
1 – Bifur, Bilbo Baggins, Denethor, Eleanor, Elladan (without Elrohir), Éowyn, Frodo Baggins

Defense Strength:

3 – Dáin Ironfoot, Denethor, Elrohir (with Elladan)
2 – Aragorn, Beravor, Bifur, Bilbo Baggins, Boromir, Brand son of Bain, Dwalin, Eleanor, Elladan, Frodo Baggins, Gimli, Prince Imrahil, Thalin
1 – Dúnhere, Elrohir (without Elladan), Éowyn, Glóin, Glorfindel, Legolas, Théodred

Hit Points:

5 – Aragorn, Boromir, Dáin Ironfoot, Gimli, Glorfindel
4 – Beravor, Dúnhere, Dwalin, Elladan, Elrohir, Legolas, Glóin, Prince Imrahil, Thalin, Théodred
3 – Bifur, Brand son of Bain, Denethor, Eleanor, Éowyn
2 – Bilbo Baggins, Frodo Baggins


Game Text

Attack Enhancement: Dúnhere
Card Draw: Beravor, Bilbo Baggins
Direct Damage: Thalin
Effect Cancellation: Eleanor
Encounter Deck Manipulation: Denethor
Hit Point Modification: Frodo Baggins, Glorfindel
Progress Token Enhancement: Legolas
Readying Ability: Aragorn, Boromir, Brand son of Bain, Elladan, Elrohir, Prince Imrahil
Resource Management: Bifur, Glóin, Théodred
Stats Modification: Dáin Ironfoot, Elladan, Elrohir, Éowyn, Gimli
Threat Modification: Dwalin, Frodo Baggins


Set Information

Core: Aragorn, Beravor, Dúnhere, Denethor, Éowyn, Eleanor, Gimli, Glóin, Glorfindel, Legolas, Théodred, Thalin

Shadows of Mirkwood: Bilbo Baggins (HfG), Frodo Baggins (CotC), Prince Imrahil (JtR), Brand son of Bain (HoEM), Boromir (DM), Dáin Ironfoot (RtM)

Khazad-dûm: Bifur, Dwalin

Dwarrowdelf: Elrohir (RG), Elladan (RtR)


Thematic Hero Combinations

The Hobbit: Bifur, Bilbo Baggins, Dáin Ironfoot, Dwalin, Glóin,
The Fellowship of the Ring: Aragorn, Bilbo Baggins, Boromir, Elrohir, Frodo Baggins, Gimli, Glóin, Glorfindel, Legolas
The Two Towers: Aragorn, Éowyn, Frodo Baggins, Gimli, Legolas, Théodred
The Return of the King: Aragorn, Bilbo Baggins, Denethor, Dúnhere, Elrohir, Frodo Baggins, Gimli, Legolas, Prince Imrahil
The Appendix: Aragorn, Bifur, Bilbo Baggins, Boromir, Brand son of Bain, Dáin Ironfoot, Denethor, Dúnhere, Dwalin, Elladan, Elrohir, Éowyn, Frodo Baggins, Gimli, Glóin, Glorfindel, Legolas, Prince Imrahil, Théodred, Thalin

The Fellowship: Aragorn, Boromir, Frodo Baggins, Legolas, GImli
The Three Hunters: Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli


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March 27, 2012



#2 juicebox

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:04 PM

Just added census data for Elrohir, as spoiled earlier today in Heroes in The Redhorn Gate, Part Three.

(Note: Heroes who have been previewed but yet to be released are listed in italics.)



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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:09 AM

Hi Juicebox,

Great list of statistics!  Thanks for assembling it!

Careful not to confuse Keywords with Traits though. 

Keywords in this game are Ranged, Sentinel, Doomed X, etc.

Traits are Silvan, Ranger, Hobbit, etc.

So, perhaps replacing the label Keywords with Traits for that list and then putting Keywords showing who is Ranged, Sentinel, etc would be more accurate in identifying who has what. 

Great job and thanks for the post!



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Posted 21 February 2012 - 06:38 AM

good idea, very useful to see them all laid out in different catagories

as for the card text thats a difficult one- maybe list by how they interact by the game- so

by +/- stats (elrohir, dain, eowyn, gimli)

by damage (thalin)

by card draw (bilbo, beravor)

by threat increase/reduction (dwalin)

by hit point increase/reduction (frodo, glorfindel)

by resource management (bifur, gloin, theodred)

by readying (imrahil, aragorn, brand, boromir)

by progress tokens (legolas)

by attacking (dunhere)

by deck changing (denethor)

by effect cancellation (elanor)

think thats them all


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:17 AM

richsabre said:

 

good idea, very useful to see them all laid out in different catagories

as for the card text thats a difficult one- maybe list by how they interact by the game- so

by +/- stats (elrohir, dain, eowyn, gimli)

by damage (thalin)

by card draw (bilbo, beravor)

by threat increase/reduction (dwalin, frodo)

by hit point increase/reduction (frodo, glorfindel)

by resource management (bifur, gloin, theodred)

by readying (imrahil, aragorn, brand, boromir, elrohir)

by progress tokens (legolas)

by attacking (dunhere)

by deck changing (denethor)

by effect cancellation (elanor)

think thats them all

 

 

I guess frodo and elrohir would also fit into these categories.....



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Posted 21 February 2012 - 05:06 PM

Bomb said:

Careful not to confuse Keywords with Traits though. 

Keywords in this game are Ranged, Sentinel, Doomed X, etc.

Traits are Silvan, Ranger, Hobbit, etc.

So, perhaps replacing the label Keywords with Traits for that list and then putting Keywords showing who is Ranged, Sentinel, etc would be more accurate in identifying who has what. 

Thanks Bomb! Good catch. I'll fix the Traits category first, as that's a quick fix.

And I'll add the proper Keyword category soon.



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Posted 21 February 2012 - 06:23 PM

Keywords added.

richsabre and muemakan... great ideas. I'll play with those and update that portion soon too. Thanks!



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Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:33 AM

muemakan said:

richsabre said:

 

good idea, very useful to see them all laid out in different catagories

as for the card text thats a difficult one- maybe list by how they interact by the game- so

by +/- stats (elrohir, dain, eowyn, gimli)

by damage (thalin)

by card draw (bilbo, beravor)

by threat increase/reduction (dwalin, frodo)

by hit point increase/reduction (frodo, glorfindel)

by resource management (bifur, gloin, theodred)

by readying (imrahil, aragorn, brand, boromir, elrohir)

by progress tokens (legolas)

by attacking (dunhere)

by deck changing (denethor)

by effect cancellation (elanor)

think thats them all

 

 

I guess frodo and elrohir would also fit into these categories.....

Thanks again you two... I have played around with these and updated the thread. Certainly open to feedback and making ongoing adjustments if there are more refined ways of articulating the special abilities. Seems like a good start though.



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Posted 22 February 2012 - 03:07 PM

NIce list.

You may want to consider adding a * in the Stats section to indicate heroes with variable stats. I'm thinking especially of Elrohir right now, who is either a 1 or 3 defense character depending on the context.

Managing all the exceptions is the hardest part with these type of lists.

Under thematic, I'm surprised you didn't consider the most basic of all: The Fellowship of the Ring! (Too bad we probably won't ever have a Gandalf hero... 3 players using all 9 members would make for a cool gang)

Good luck!



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Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:06 PM

SiCK_Boy said:

 

NIce list.

You may want to consider adding a * in the Stats section to indicate heroes with variable stats. I'm thinking especially of Elrohir right now, who is either a 1 or 3 defense character depending on the context.

Managing all the exceptions is the hardest part with these type of lists.

Under thematic, I'm surprised you didn't consider the most basic of all: The Fellowship of the Ring! (Too bad we probably won't ever have a Gandalf hero... 3 players using all 9 members would make for a cool gang)

Good luck!

 

 

Great ideas SiCK_Boy!

As for Elrohir, I'll try something really specific for now. How does that seem? If things start getting combo-crazy, I may have to revert things back to an * to indicate a more general "variable."

Also, for Thematic Hero Combinations, I really just meant to get the ball rolling. That way brilliant minds like yourself can come along and add your genius to the mix.

Hopefully, over time, we can get a good, long, fun, creative list going.



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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:51 PM

SiCK_Boy said:

Under thematic, I'm surprised you didn't consider the most basic of all: The Fellowship of the Ring! (Too bad we probably won't ever have a Gandalf hero... 3 players using all 9 members would make for a cool gang)

 

 

great idea there. if you decide to use this it opens up all sorts of possibilites, but of course it depends on how far you want to go grouping by theme, there could be

-what book(s) they are in

-some sort of general personality grouping- not sure exactly how but sort of like:

-aggressive (gimli,boromir)

-wise (glorfindel,bilbo,gandalf)

-calm (frodo,haldir, gloin)

-light hearted- i cant think of any other word to describe this (legolas, merry, pippin- those types of characters)

-mighty (aragorn, dain, brand, imrahil)

-stout (sam, other dwarf characters)

-stubborn (eowyn, denethor)

you get the idea, its just speculation, the obvious problem is that it is very vague and it probably needs more heros to fill the gaps

 


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:23 PM

I think under "Traits" there should be "Hobbit" listed (Bilbo, Frodo)


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:10 PM

Angus Lee said:

I think under "Traits" there should be "Hobbit" listed (Bilbo, Frodo)

Angus, you are right! I'll add that. Thanks!

And richsabre, I'm thinking themes should be more concrete and objective (more like your "book groupings" idea as opposed to the more subjective personality traits ideas). That's my thought. Like a Rohan deck... that could be another "theme." In fact, I'll add that right now.

For the "book specific" groupings... care to help me think those through?  Do we have enough for:

The Hobbit:

The Fellowship of the Ring:

The Two Towers:

The Return of the King:



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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:36 AM

i guess so though the problem there may be that alof the characters appear in all 3 of the trilogy, so there would be alot of multiple goupings, also it depends if you intend 'mentioned' to mean was in that book ie brand, otherwise youd be left over with either placing him in the appendices- which may have to be added in the future, or leaving him out, also you would be left over the FFG created ones- but to give it a go-

Hobbit (bilbo, gloin,dain, dwalin, bifur)

Fellowship (bilbo, frodo, gloin, gimli, legolas, boromir, aragorn, glorfindel, elrohir, brand, dain)

Towers (eowyn, theodred,frodo,aragorn, legolas, gimli

Return (Dunhere,Imrahil,denethor, frodo, bilbo, aragorn, gimli, legolas,elrohir)

FFG  created (elanor, thalin, beravor)

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:49 PM

Okay, finally getting around to updating...

richsabre, thanks for your help with remembering who is in which book. I like the idea of including whoever was mentioned in each book as well as adding a separate Appendix section. Why not? So, I'm pretty sure my Appendix section is incomplete. Anyone want to help me identify the other heroes mentioned in the Appendix?

Also, what other fun "theme" hero decks could we slap up here? Would it be too redundant to make a "theme" for each of the different traits (like Rohan)? Or maybe I should take down "Rohan" as a theme and let the Traits section speak for itself?



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Posted 12 March 2012 - 12:40 AM

juicebox said:

 

Okay, finally getting around to updating...

richsabre, thanks for your help with remembering who is in which book. I like the idea of including whoever was mentioned in each book as well as adding a separate Appendix section. Why not? So, I'm pretty sure my Appendix section is incomplete. Anyone want to help me identify the other heroes mentioned in the Appendix?

 

 

 

 

well ill go through proper but i think just about everyone (tolkien created obviously not ffg characters) is in the appendices/timeline at some point, even if its just a passing mention

what type of sub-themes had you in mind?


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:09 PM

richsabre said:

well ill go through proper but i think just about everyone (tolkien created obviously not ffg characters) is in the appendices/timeline at some point, even if its just a passing mention

what type of sub-themes had you in mind?

Thanks richsabre...finally getting back over here.

For sub-themes, I'm thinking of ideas that could come right out of plot lines from the books (like the Three Hunters). Totally interested to see what we can come up with.

So, I'll update the Appendix, and then... we've got a new hero to add too! 



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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:14 PM

Just added census data for...






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