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#1 EnigmaKnight

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 05:15 PM

I've been looking over the Info on the core set, and it seems to me that the set comes with enough cards for four people.  Four starter decks, and twelve heroes.  The second set would be usefull for the two extra threat trackers, and the extra tokens, and, I suppose, some greater versitility with the cards.  But with extra decks coming out you don't really need the extra cards from the core set.  Is the only reason to buy the second set the threat trackers and tokens for a four man game?  Or have I missed something here?



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Posted 23 March 2011 - 09:47 PM

EnigmaKnight said:

Is the only reason to buy the second set the threat trackers and tokens for a four man game?  Or have I missed something here?
I don't think you're missing anything, that's exactly how it appears to be.



#3 micheni

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 10:10 PM

maybe you need double encounter cards for 4 players game?



#4 YGrams

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 11:16 PM

micheni said:

maybe you need double encounter cards for 4 players game?

I wouldn't think so, as when the encounter deck runs out, you just reshuffle its discard pile and use that.



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Posted 23 March 2011 - 11:46 PM

The encounter deck doesn't change with the number of players. 



#6 PsiThundara

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 12:34 AM

 In the core set there are 120 player cards divided between 4 people gets you 30 cards a person.
The deck building rules (pg. 27) say that a deck should be a minimum of 50 cards.
So more than threat dials, at least initially you don't have enough cards to build 4 legal decks.



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Posted 24 March 2011 - 01:26 AM

PsiThundara said:

 In the core set there are 120 player cards divided between 4 people gets you 30 cards a person.
The deck building rules (pg. 27) say that a deck should be a minimum of 50 cards.
So more than threat dials, at least initially you don't have enough cards to build 4 legal decks.

No, minimum 50 cards deck rule is for tournaments and for mixed decks. You can use the four standard decks as an introduction to the game and four people can play with just one core set.The only promblem i think is that one core set has only 2 threat meters and maybe wound tokens and progress tokens arent enough for 4 players.



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Posted 24 March 2011 - 01:33 AM

PsiThundara is right. The standard game is 50 cards so that is why would need the extra core set. After a few adventure packs come out won't be an issue.



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Posted 24 March 2011 - 02:16 AM

Toqtamish said:

 

PsiThundara is right. The standard game is 50 cards so that is why would need the extra core set. After a few adventure packs come out won't be an issue.

 

 

Then that counts for 2 players too.If you and your friend want to use one hero of the same sphere  you cant both have 50 cards deck.Why?Because one fixed deck of the same sphere has only 30 cards and if you split them you will have a 45 cards deck.If both of you want 50 cards each you must use 3 diferent spheres and i dont think a deck like this will ever work.So for a 50 cards deck 2 core sets are needed even for 2 players(except if you can agree with your friend that you cant both have a hero of the same sphere).



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Posted 24 March 2011 - 03:40 AM

I don't think it would be that hard. There are 12 characters, can only use 3 at a time. Unless you have some jerks for friends would not be that hard to make the one core set into 2 50 card decks. And if you do, then why bother playing with them in the first place. I think you over complicate things Servant. Building two decks will be easy with what you get.



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Posted 24 March 2011 - 04:55 AM

Toqtamish said:

 

I don't think it would be that hard. There are 12 characters, can only use 3 at a time. Unless you have some jerks for friends would not be that hard to make the one core set into 2 50 card decks. And if you do, then why bother playing with them in the first place. I think you over complicate things Servant. Building two decks will be easy with what you get.

 

 

Ofcourse you can build 2 decks with just one core set.Its not only about jerk friends but for the fun factor also.For example if Legolas is my favorite character and Gimli my friend's favorite character and i want to mix Legolas with tactik sphere heroes and my friend wants to mix Gimli with lore sphere heroes its not possible with just one box.

But as i said in my other post a good friend with a second core set is allways welcome.



#12 Toqtamish

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 05:59 AM

I am sure you can agree to build the deck you both wantthen take turns using it so you both get to use your favorite characters.



#13 qwertyuiop

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 06:05 AM

The answer here is simple. Buy two core sets.



#14 Toqtamish

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 07:04 AM

Simple yes, not necessarily affordable for all.



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Posted 24 March 2011 - 07:20 AM

plus from the look of the videos and from previous LCG releases, I assume some player deck cards will come in singles in the core set, so if you really want three of those cards for your tournament deck you end up having to buy three core sets; which really is a lot of waste.

It looks to me like there really is a need for a 4 players/tournament deck expansion which has player deck cards to bring each card in the core set up to three, but without the unneccessary quest, encounter or hero cards.

It could contain 2 extra threat tracks and tokens if price allows. I'd probably happily pay core set prices for the expansion even if it had less overall cards.

Rather that than having to buy two, maybe even three core sets to get a full card set to choose from for tournament decks.

 



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Posted 24 March 2011 - 11:09 AM

Toqtamish said:

Simple yes, not necessarily affordable for all.

 

Skip lunch a 4-8 times from now until release. Use the time normally spent on eating to go for a walkenjoy the burgeoning Spring. Your reward shall be a minimum of twofold.



#17 Toqtamish

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 11:31 AM

lol, ya I don't have that option. I work from home so I don't really pay for lunch anywayI'm diabetic so skipping a meal would be just stupid.

Either way I myself am happy with just one core set. I had one for GoT for a year before I ever got the 2nd one. Worked out fine.



#18 DrNate

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 03:20 PM

 I'll definitely be fine with one core deck. Until I fall in love with certain cardsalways want three of them in my deck. When that happens, I'll have to weigh the number of cards that I want that I would get in a second core set against the price. Or just go to ebayhope I can find them. 

Just to be safe, maybe I should just get core sets until I have three of every card. Just in case. Yeah, why do I feel like Smeagol right about now...



#19 Toqtamish

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 03:23 PM

LOL, I will eventually get two if only so that I can start my binders up. I have one of every GoT cards in my two binders for itwill do the same for LotR.



#20 EnigmaKnight

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 07:31 PM

I guess my main problem with the way this is set up, is that with my second purchase of a core set, I am buying, quest, encounter,hero cards that I will never use,that it was designed that way.  I will likely still buy the second set, but I wish a four player expansion had been thought of, to keep us from paying for wasted cards. 






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