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Chapter Pack Cycle 7 or "when George doesnt finish the next book"


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#1 DerBarchen

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:07 AM

So I was thinking about this for a while over the last week or two and realised that the Secrets of Oldtown cycle will end in August and Dance with Dragons is scheduled to be released in September (here's to hoping o.O) but the way that chapter pack cycle development goes its very likely that cycle 7 is already partially in development and therefore Dance wont be finished in time to provide fresh material for it. I know its a little early to be thinking about it, seeing as Secrets of Oldtown hasnt even gone on sale yet but the fact that the source material is geting more and more used up made speculation really intriguing for me!

I think that one way of keeping the themes and contents of the chapter packs fresh and engaging FFG will need to move beyond the "current timeline" of the stories and really widen the net as it were for what parts of the universe get cardified. Not only is the mythology and history of Westeros and the rest of this world incredibly vast but the more recent tales of heroic battles and personalities such as Balon Greyjoy's Rebellion and the Battle of Redgrass Field are prevalent throughout the series and sometimes even directly invovled in the plot. Therefore I give you:

Times of Legend! Drawing heavily from the rich and colourfull mthology and history of Asoiaf's universe come 6 chapter packs full of influential heros, world changing events and song worthy battles. New mechanics could include a suped up version of Renown or the new trait synergy with a Legendary Hero trait or even a new keyword of the same name? There could even be a "Time of Legends" Agenda encouraging players to make challanges with single, Heroic characters or massive challanges with big Armies! On top of that, any important event or situation in the history or mythology (Long Night, Field of Fire, Redgrass Field etc.) could be used to make events, plots, agendas or even just chapter pack names.

Lannisters: Now Im not entirley sure what they would get, I was never very well versed with their history or mythology, but they Do have several interesting possibilities. Firstly and most recently, the Brave Companions are not in the game so hey, theres a Bolton esque mechanic at work right there! Next we have the obvious possiblity of Lan the Clever being their "Legendary Hero." There is also a great possiblity to bring in The Field of Fire as a Lannister related event or plot and characters/armies that participated there could be used too, including the old kings of the Rock? Lastly the pervasive history of the Reynes and Tarbecks could very easily lend itself to another Botlon esque mechanic!

Starks: The starks have a strong history, with an abunance of Old Gods related mythology and a host of previous kings of the north. Lyanna Stark could make an apperance and so could Brandon? Bran the Builder is an obvious choice of Legendary Hero and House Reed are still absent from the card game and could get much semi-magical love in this sort of cycle. On top of this the Old Gods could also have more represintation and as with all houses the times of Agon the Conqurer could spawn famous kings and events.

Targaryens: The Targs would get the most obvious love from this. With Dragons, lots of Dragon Kings and their strong roots in ancient Valyria their mythology and history is Incredibly easy to adapt for this sort of thing including the possiblity of a whole Theme around the Blackfyre rebelions. Also, can anyone say Meraxes, Vhagar and Silverwing? Moar Dragons! xD

Martells: The Martells are also very good at this. Their historical ties to Nymeria provides a perfect Legendary Hero and their military prowess and history of stealthy warfare make for interesting new mechanics and possible battles. Their locations such as The Boneway would be fantastic for this sort of stuff. Admitedly having only come into the story in the previous book in a big way they might end up a bit lacking in parts but Im sure enough scaning of the books would produce enough epic history to satisfy any Martell player.

Baratheons: The Lords of the Storm. Nuf said. The Storm Kings are Great history, all of them. On top of this the Baratheons have always had the most epic knights, this could help them out with their already preffered Knight agenda. Theyre one of the First great houses and therefore full of history. Orys Baratheon is a great Legendary Hero, one of Agons best generals, and charcters like Argilac the Arogant are full of possiblity!

Greyjoy: These would probably get the most love next to the Targs. Between Harren The Black, their tendency to stick to old tradition and Balon's Rebellion theyre basically Legend-fodder. Harren or The Grey King would make fantastic Legendary Heros while The Burning of Harrenhall would make for a great event or plot. On top of that "Return to the Old Ways" could be a Reaver and/or Drowned God boosting agenda!

Neutrals: As in the last three chapter pack cycles netural characters would get a lot of atention too. Legends such as Floarian and Jonquil, The Dragonknight and The Knight of the Laughing Tree would all end up being fantastic characters, who knows, maybe even Azor Ahai himself could get a card? Old Kingsguard such as Duncan the Tall could link the short stories to the LCG and boost the existing Kingsguard agenda. The Others could get more atention, recieving some characters or plots, maybe even The Long Night as an event or plot! In direct opposition the Night's Watch has Fantastic history and mythology such as Bloodraven and The Black King. The Kingswood Brotherhood would mesh well with the Brootherhood agenda and the abundance of Epic Batlles such as Redgrass Field would definatley boost the Epic Battles mechanic and the Military Battle plot mechanic!

Really there is a Lot of potential in a chapter pack cycle like this that draws from as of yet mostly untapped areas of the books and overall story. It would be Fascinating to see all the mechanics and artwork that would evolve from these themes and at the end of the day, no one can argue with more dragons! What do You think?



#2 SunflowerEyes

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:42 AM

I agree. One can always use more dragons *faint longings of a viable dragon deck*...



#3 Skowza

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 08:27 AM

SunflowerEyes said:

I agree. One can always use more dragons *faint longings of a viable dragon deck*...

~Maybe Melisandre will finally manage to hatch one in Dance... of course it would probably be a Baratheon card then, unless FFG made it split-house.



#4 DerBarchen

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 08:57 AM

Skowza said:

~Maybe Melisandre will finally manage to hatch one in Dance... of course it would probably be a Baratheon card then, unless FFG made it split-house.

 

 

That would be Weird. Then again the Stannis Is 1/3rd Targaryen in bloodline so who knows??



#5 SunflowerEyes

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:55 AM

Hmph. I dunno what he'd Do with a dragon. Only Dany is allowed have them! :P



#6 Captain Bulldozer

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 12:50 PM

Seems like Dance will be released in the beginning of July at least, so that will give a bit more time for FFG to work on the next set. Even so, however, it seems like there is still quite a bit of untapped material for the game. Even some of the more often mentioned characters have yet to make an appearance in the LCG, and many others could certainly benefit from a different persona.

 

Of course, its still likely to be quite a while before the next book comes out (after Dance of Dragons that is) so going with some of the historical events and character could be fun as well.



#7 Shenanigans

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 10:26 AM

I really like this idea, especially because I really like what they've done with historical figures in the game so far (Rhaegar, Daemon Blackfyre, The Laughing Storm)

That said, I've been waiting for a Ser Duncan the Tall (or at least Dunk) card ever since I read "The Hedge Knight"



#8 jack merridew

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:57 AM

I figured one of the next cycles will be something called the Strength of Faith or such

Asshai Love for Both Targaryen

 

Faith of the Seven, including cards for the sparrows, poor fellows,  the Warriors Sons, the Septons, the silent sisters, and maybe even an event card or agenda for 1 of the seven that can only be played 1 per deck, like blessing of the smith all locations this phase are reduced by x,  or the crone lights the way look at your opponents hand, so on and so on.

The Old Gods for Stark including Weirwoods and things beyond the wall

it could include some cards for the house of black and white, and faceless men

some more stuff for the drowned god with the greyjoys

 

just seemed like a pretty big aspect of the books not really present in the games outside of Asshai



#9 Rubinon

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 12:43 AM

@ Jack: I just finished reading Feast for crows in preparation for next week (next week!) and thought almost exactly the same thing. The whole change in King's Landing Warrior Knights, a new version of Lancel (Lannister only has one Holy-Crest in the LCG at this moment!), Meribald and the quiet isle, there are tons of ideas.

I really like the idea of Old God cards for the Starks. I'm just not sure Baratheon and Greyjoy (Ithink Greyjoy has much more Holy-support than Targaryen) need more support for their tons of Holy crests.

 



#10 jack merridew

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:22 AM

Rubinon said:

@ Jack: I just finished reading Feast for crows in preparation for next week (next week!) and thought almost exactly the same thing. The whole change in King's Landing Warrior Knights, a new version of Lancel (Lannister only has one Holy-Crest in the LCG at this moment!), Meribald and the quiet isle, there are tons of ideas.

I really like the idea of Old God cards for the Starks. I'm just not sure Baratheon and Greyjoy (Ithink Greyjoy has much more Holy-support than Targaryen) need more support for their tons of Holy crests.

 

 

Well like any chapter cycle not every card will be directly related to the theme, so Bara doesn't need to get much Holy love, but i would like to see some more Drowned God love in Greyjoy.

 

So 7 different event cards for Each of the seven, you can only have 1 of any of the 7 in a deck, and only 1 copy, it works like an epic battle coming out in plot phase and having it last until the end of Taxation.

Crones Light

Maidens Favor

Warriors Sword

Smiths Hammer

Fathers Justice

Mothers mercy

 Srangers. . .. . . unknown

 

.    i just cant believe the 7 arent figured more into this game considering how important they are in the series



#11 DerBarchen

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 09:38 AM

 Strangers Wrath (5 Billion nerd points for anyone who gets the reference)



#12 Maester_LUke

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:44 PM

DerBarchen said:

 Strangers Wrath (5 Billion nerd points for anyone who gets the reference)

Google says: Oddworld?  Sorry, not much of a console gamer.

But dittoes on the Seven.  There were a cycle of Septons back in the day the day, and a couple High Septons, including a great one that worked similarly to Damphair and the Drowned Disciple.  It seems like they could be supported in Targ rather than Stark... they did build the Great Sept.






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