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#1 petersiddle21

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 03:48 AM

Hi guys...Looks like Game of Thrones is gonna be made as tv series by HBO and it will be premiering in 2011..What you guys expect from the series...Will you watch it... I for sure will watch mainly because I love the characters and it would be good to see them live in action... :)



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Posted 28 November 2010 - 07:10 AM

petersiddle21 said:

Hi guys...Looks like Game of Thrones is gonna be made as tv series by HBO and it will be premiering in 2011..What you guys expect from the series...Will you watch it... I for sure will watch mainly because I love the characters and it would be good to see them live in action... :)

 

I'm expecting to see one of the best TV shows ever. I can't wait to see the mainstream reactions to the story. It will also be interesting to see how various characters get interpreted. I also wonder how well they will manage to translate a the POV driven series into a TV show. They are making lots of new scenes to highlight things that are told by internal dialogue or narration in the books.



#3 Vontickkraut

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 03:42 PM

I would agree, I think this is going to be amazing as it will stick to the story with Martin being very involved.

 



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Posted 11 January 2011 - 10:32 AM

I've been following pre-production reasonably closely and it looks like they are going to nail it.

One funny thing-before I had ever heard of an HBO series I had always pictured Tyrion Lannister as Peter Dinklage. He hit the jackpot the moment they decided to do this series.

I'm not sure how I feel about Lena Headey as Cersei- just not evil enough.

As an aside I have assumed for awhile that Martin has been delaying the next book until after the HBO series comes out.



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Posted 12 January 2011 - 12:29 PM

I also read Tyrion as Peter Dinklage. He is a briolliant actor and I've been a fan of his since I first came across him (Threshold).

The thing is Cersei needs to NOT be an evil person. In her mind she is a loving mother and truly her father's daughter. She believes that if she were a man no one would ever question her and she would not have to use intermediaries to get what she wants, she would have the presence and sword arm to just take it.

Everything she does she does because she thinks it is what is best... for her and therefor what is best for everyone who matters. She is a narcissist with delusions of grandeur. Not evil. And that is what truly makes ehr character scary and tragic. If Robert had called out her name the first time they laid together, if he had been faithful, and treated her with respect and defference, she may have been a very different person. Still vain. Still a narcissist, but definitely different.

The genius of George knows no bounds.



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Posted 13 January 2011 - 04:33 AM

Penfold said:

I also read Tyrion as Peter Dinklage. He is a briolliant actor and I've been a fan of his since I first came across him (Threshold).

The thing is Cersei needs to NOT be an evil person. In her mind she is a loving mother and truly her father's daughter. She believes that if she were a man no one would ever question her and she would not have to use intermediaries to get what she wants, she would have the presence and sword arm to just take it.

Everything she does she does because she thinks it is what is best... for her and therefor what is best for everyone who matters. She is a narcissist with delusions of grandeur. Not evil. And that is what truly makes ehr character scary and tragic. If Robert had called out her name the first time they laid together, if he had been faithful, and treated her with respect and defference, she may have been a very different person. Still vain. Still a narcissist, but definitely different.

The genius of George knows no bounds.

I agree with your assessment of Dinklage. I'm glad he got this once-in-a-career role.

I'll have to respectfully disagree about Cersei's evil status. Evil always has motivations, and rarely considers itself to be evil. In fact, it would be hard to classify ANYONE as evil with the distinction you provide.

Anyway, I am looking forward to the series!!!!

 

 



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Posted 22 January 2011 - 07:10 AM

 I expect that they will have to cut so much plot that it will not be nearly as good as the books.



#8 JackT

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 12:25 PM

That is an interesting issue you raise.

In the series preview, they refer to Eddard Stark as being central to the series, which implies, at least to me, that a leisurely pace will be taken. I do not expect the first season to get out of book 1. If that is true, they might be able to cover just about everything. Who knows, they might even ADD stuff!

 

 



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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:49 AM

"As good/not as good as the books" is always a subjective thing, and in the end not really that important. Were the Lord of the Rings movies as good as the books? It's hard to say, because they are different creatures, besides telling the same story.

They're taking 10 episodes (@12 hours total, IIRC) to tell the story of the first book alone, which seems to be plenty of time. I'm sure some stuff will be cut and some stuff will be added since bringing the narrative to a new medium will always involve changes. But the show will need to stand up on its own merits. It's good a good head start because of the excellent source material, but it will live or die more by the acting and directing.

 



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Posted 16 February 2011 - 04:44 AM

 I think the problem with expectations is that many people confuse "as good as the books" with "just like the books." TV is a very different medium, particularly since the books are so POV-focused. A lot of the thoughts and exposition we get from reading what a character thinks will have to be translated by externalizing this into monologue, dialogue, music, lighting, adding new scenes, etc. So the TV show will be different from the books. The question is whether they will manage to tell Martin's intricate story with rich characters in a compelling fashion using the tools at their disposal. 

From what I've seen,  I have high hopes that all these things will be handled well. The casting seems to range from "solid" to "excellent," no clue what the music will be like (this is probably the part that worries me most), set design and costumes look great as well. I'm really excited about the show, and I suspect I will love it.



#11 JackT

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 09:55 AM

Saturnine said:

 I think the problem with expectations is that many people confuse "as good as the books" with "just like the books."

Indeed. Someone has already mentioned the Lord of the Rings films, which were excellent partly because Peter Jackson understood the difference between films and books. By contrast, look at The Harry Potter movies which, to me, seem more literal adaptations of the novels and consequently feel a bit soul-less.

Films which are scene-for-scene copies of a book will almost always be terrible.

 

 



#12 LaughingTree

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 12:51 PM

JackT said:

 

Saturnine said:

 

 I think the problem with expectations is that many people confuse "as good as the books" with "just like the books."

 

Indeed. Someone has already mentioned the Lord of the Rings films, which were excellent partly because Peter Jackson understood the difference between films and books. By contrast, look at The Harry Potter movies which, to me, seem more literal adaptations of the novels and consequently feel a bit soul-less.

 

 

 

I enjoyed the Harry Potter far more than the LoTR films. I personally don't think LotR movies should have won any Oscars but thats me (never been a big LotR fan at all). 



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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:34 PM

JackT said:

Films which are scene-for-scene copies of a book will almost always be terrible.

 

 

Evidence for that is Watchmen. Which was then compounded by the polar opposite random throwing away of important plots that were in the book/comic/graphic novel.

I expect the TV Series to mispronounce a great deal of names compared to how I read them in my head (which they already have with Vyseris, Daenerys, Targaryen, Baratheon and Catelyn), not be as bright and colourful as I pictured in order to be dark, gritty and realistic, and leave out a lot of the subtlety and nuance that you just can't do in a TV show compared to a book.

I also expect it to be an awesome adaptation.



#14 jack merridew

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 05:40 AM

Its always hard converting a book or story into television but i feel like they are about the hit it out of the park

 

i only have a few problems with casting,  Cersei is not beautiful enough, Robert is not intimidating,  even as an older fat man he was said to be huge, and Daernys is well  i dunno   i just dont like her at all

 

but i think Jamie, Ned and Jon are cast perfectly



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Posted 03 April 2011 - 05:39 AM

jack merridew said:

 

i only have a few problems with casting,  Cersei is not beautiful enough, Robert is not intimidating,  even as an older fat man he was said to be huge, and Daernys is well  i dunno   i just dont like her at all

 

 

 

I have to totally (but respectfully) disagree completely. Not sure how high your standards of beauty are but Lena Headey is gorgeous. The only thing I could think of is that based on the 11 minute preview maybe she is not blonde enough for your imagination of Cersei?  Seriously though, if you don't think Lena Headey is beautiful enough I have no idea which quality actress they would have needed to cast to satisfy your standard of beauty for Cersei. Joanna Krupa, Keely Hazel and Rosie Jones might be "objectively hotter" than Lena Headey but I am not sure holding the Guiness World Record for Most Bras Taken Off and Put On in one minute exactly qualifies some of these "perfect" models to be good enough actresses to play the important role of Cersei ya know? Lana Turner isn't around anymore ;)

Mark Addy is also a great casting choice in my opinion. He has played similar fantasy roles (Friar Tuck) and is a great actor. I never really got the whole "intimidating" vibe from Robert. No doubt the Usurper was eventually revealed as domineering and obviously he had to fight like a berzerker to take out Rhaegar but from many of the scenes in the first book, he came across as much more the laughing drunk than as an intimidating fearsome wife beater. Gregor Clegane is where they need to cast a mean looking intimidating man. I think Mark Addy is more than capable of acting very well in the role of Robert baratheon. Again he is an accomplished actor even if he seems shorter than described in the books but I would prefer someone that can ACT like Robert Baratheon over someone that might fit some people's visual image but would not be a good actor. And the camera can of course make Robert look bigger. Just look at Mad Men and Christina Hendricks. Joan looks like a giant Amazon on that show due to the camera angles but in reality she is tiny (like 5'2).

And I personally absolutely love Emilia Clarke as Daeny, and Targaryen has always been my chosen House so I am more critical of this casting than all others. Of all the cast she seemed one of the most enthusiastic about the story (along with Peter Dinklage) and seemed to have absolutely loved the books. That, to me, is enough to qualify her for the very tough role of Daeny. Daenerys is IMO one of the toughest roles in the books with a huge amount of character development (unlike Eddard whose personality is unchanging and thus a much easier role IMO). For me not a single FFG art version of Daeny actually captured how I imagined the character of Daenerys. Neither the stilled art from this game nor fan art I've seen ever seemed like how I imagined Daeny as a person. However the first I saw Emilia Clarke, I thought "damn now she is perfect for Daeny".  When HBO showed Daeny with Viserys I thought they looked perfect together as well. I feel Emilia is exactly the kind of unknown HBO needed to cast in this very challenging and rewarding role.  I am personally very glad they did not go with a well known for the role of Daeny. When the show was announced I was racking my brain for who they could possibly cast as Daenerys that would work. I couldn't think of any current actresses in the right age bracket that I would have wanted for this role. Emilia was a great choice for me as a Targ lover.

Anyway I hope you give the cast a second chance as I personally could not have been happier with who they cast and was very impressed all around. I am a little more worried about some of the lesser roles who they haven't shown yet actually (I hope Syrio and Jaqen are as cool in person as I imagine them and who is going to play the Red Viper hmmm).



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Posted 03 April 2011 - 09:17 PM

I pictured Cersei as more Uma Thurman-type stunning, but there's no argument from me that Lena Headey is gorgeous. I'd pictured both the Lannister twins as blonder. Renly's haircut is far too modern, also (focussing on the hairstyles a bit much?). Everything is a little too dark and gritty for me, and I'm hoping the chivalric pageantry of something like the Tournament for the Hand really comes to the fore in that episode (the glimpses of Ser Loras, for instance, look perfect).

But OMG (yes, I just used OMG) minor details who really cares? They've nailed all of the Starks, as far as I can tell, and they're really what hold the story together. Preview looks fabulous, and this is shaping up to be a fantastic series.



#17 jack merridew

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 02:39 AM

agree about them nailing the starks  and as for daeneys i imagine i wouldnt be happy with anyone for the role.

i guess my problem with Cersei is that shes not the image of beauty i imagined, i by no means am saying the actress isn't beautiful   but i imagined a more Nicole Kidman (when she could still make facial expressions) ish look to cersei



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Posted 04 April 2011 - 03:43 AM

jack merridew said:

i guess my problem with Cersei is that shes not the image of beauty i imagined, i by no means am saying the actress isn't beautiful   but i imagined a more Nicole Kidman (when she could still make facial expressions) ish look to cersei

A pity Nicole Kidman can't act, though ;)



#19 jack merridew

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 05:14 AM

it is a pity. . . . although i did dig her in days of thunder,  but you see what i mean about nicole kidman?  shes more gracious looking,  she looks like royalty and manipulative at the same time.  but again im some fanboy with a certain idea in my head  either way this series is going to deliver for me and for that im thankful



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Posted 11 April 2011 - 08:22 AM

Ya know I just thought of someone who I personally would have liked as Cersei: Naomi Watts. No big deal really and she is more a straight movie actress than someone for a 7 season long TV show, but she is probably my favorite blond actress :)






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