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#1 chubtoad69

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 05:07 AM

I was so excited to hear that they were making a 4th edition of Talisman that I purchased the Black Industries release as soon as I found it. Now that FFG is releasing it I am just thrilled, especially with the release of a new expansion. I see they have an upgrade pack for the Black Industries version to bring it up to FFG standards but it doesn't include a game board. Does this mean that the game boards will be the same? Does anyone know this yet? And if it's not the same what is different between the two, will it just be easier to get the new 4th edition?

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#2 S3v3n11

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 06:18 AM

I have two copies of the BI version but am still planing on getting the FFG version.  I will probably pick up two upgrade packs as well.



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Posted 02 December 2008 - 04:22 PM

chubtoad69 said:

Does this mean that the game boards will be the same?

The boards should be the same, otherwise the Upgrade pack for 4th edition standard would be pointless (which is what I'm doing). If you haven't purchased the game as yet, then buy the newer revised edition from FFG and avoid the extra cost of the upgrade.



#4 SubElement

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 10:44 PM

Yeah the boards will be identicle, except that the new FFG board will have all the errors fixed.



#5 alboy

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 04:02 AM

Are you sure that is what FFG have said.

I have the BI 4th edition.

If l just buy just the upgrade pack then l am left with a uncorrected board.

 



#6 vogless

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 04:27 AM

I thought the FFG board was also going to be a little lighter with slightly bigger spaces. Not a major refurb besides fixing the errors, though. I've got the BI one, and plan on just getting the whole FFG game to get off on the right foot for the expansions. Plus, I just love this game and have to have everthing released from here on for it....



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Posted 03 December 2008 - 12:57 PM

Is there a comprehensive list of board "fixes?"  I seem to recall something about a wording clarification on Desert spaces, but I don't remember much else.

I'm planning on getting the upgrade pack....I think.



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Posted 05 December 2008 - 04:26 AM

BI's 4th Edtion Board errors that l am aware of.

Village - The cost of the Axe was wrong at the Village, it states a cost of 2G the same as the Sword, the Axe should cost 3G.

Desert - States Lose 1 Life, it should say Draw 1 Card and then Lose 1 Life. Do not draw a Card if there is already one in the space.



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Posted 05 December 2008 - 06:09 AM

The Desert spaces should now read as follows:

    LOSE 1 LIFE THEN DRAW 1 CARD
Do not draw a card if there is already
                one in this space.

 

 



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Posted 05 December 2008 - 09:44 AM

talismanamsilat said:

The Desert spaces should now read as follows:

    LOSE 1 LIFE THEN DRAW 1 CARD
Do not draw a card if there is already
                one in this space.

This is from the Talisman Official F&Q v1.3

2.4 - Desert

Q1: The text printed on the Desert Space states that Characters must ‘lose a Life’, but the main section states that Characters ‘do not draw a Card if there is already one in the space’, which suggests that Characters should also draw an Adventure Card there. Is this correct?

A1: Yes, this is correct. The Desert Space should read: ‘Draw 1 Card and then lose a Life. Do not draw a Card if there is already one in the Space'.

 

Q2: Does a Character still have to lose a Life in a Desert Space, even if they do not defeat an Enemy or Enemy Spirit there?

A2: Yes, a Character must still lose a Life in a Desert Space, even if they do not defeat an Enemy or Enemy Spirit there. This could possibly mean that a Character loses 2 Lives there.



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Posted 05 December 2008 - 11:26 AM

Bear in mind that the FAQ you quote refers to the BI incarnation of the game and not the FFG one.

 


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#12 Carrion Prince

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 02:12 PM

Check out the new Talisman article:

http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=267

Looks like more than the desert location was changed.



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Posted 05 December 2008 - 02:25 PM

 So since so many changes are being made to the board, would it be too much to ask for stickers to place over the out dated tiles. They did this with WoW Board Game and Lord of the Rings. 

 

just my 2 cents.



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Posted 05 December 2008 - 03:08 PM

Yeah...this has me a little bummed now.

I'm not usually a big complainer...but I am now torn between these 3 choices:

 

1) Simply buying the revised 4th edition from FFG

 

2) Just buying the upgrade pack (my original intentions until the new board news came up!)

 

3) Skipping Talisman all together.

 

I don't want to sound like an A-Hole, but why couldn't they just have some "offer" for those with BI's version to upgrade the whole thing to FFG's version for a fee, say $20.  I would pay that.  Now, either way I go, I am sort of screwed.

Either I shell out a lot more $$$, or I have no new board and no stackable counters, etc...

 

Sigh. 



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Posted 05 December 2008 - 04:42 PM

I'm confused too, because the Upgrade Pack doesn't mention anything about stickers for the board changes.  There are number of changes to the board, regarding alignment and fate, in particular, in addition to general error fixes.   What's the deal, anyone know?

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 05 December 2008 - 04:47 PM

Well there goes the idea of getting the upgrade pack.  After seeing all the board changes im just going to get the whole game.  AND I don't think it's worth my time to put the BI ed. on ebay.  Guess I can just give it to my girlfriends little brother.  Kinda bummed about the money I just spent on the BI ed. and now with the new rules its almost imperitive that I get the new game board.  At least I get the counters, I really didnt like fishing for counters of certain values so *certain* players could satisfy their OCD.



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Posted 06 December 2008 - 12:05 AM

The new board has changes also, You can replensih your fate at the graveyard, gain a fate at the temple and turn evil at the village mystic.

I won't be adopting the new fate rules, so I am going to keep my old board and get the upgrade.



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Posted 06 December 2008 - 01:56 AM

gatefold313 said:

Well there goes the idea of getting the upgrade pack.  After seeing all the board changes im just going to get the whole game.  AND I don't think it's worth my time to put the BI ed. on ebay.  Guess I can just give it to my girlfriends little brother.  Kinda bummed about the money I just spent on the BI ed. and now with the new rules its almost imperitive that I get the new game board.

 

This is just it, gatefold...

BI's edition is now utterly worthless.  I can't recoup some of my $$ via selling it; 'Geek or Ebay.

The upgrade pack is only 1/2 the necessary upgrade?!  That's a crock, imo.

I am really surprised by FFG on this...very dissappointed, as well.

 

I don't truly know if I will get the revised edition, because I feel I have spent enough $$$ on Talisman.

With a true upgrade option, I would have...and I would have been in for all future expansions, most likely.

Now, not so much. 



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Posted 06 December 2008 - 02:59 PM

I guess one thing we need to remember is that FFG is a buisness and the fact that they even offered any sort of an upgrade pack is amazing. If I were them I would not have even offered an upgrade pack at all so as to increase profits.



#20 JCHendee

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 06:25 AM

What's most distrubing to me, if I'm hearing correctly, is that the upgrade doesn't correct board errors. (Yes? No?)  It would have been so easy to include stickers (even for $1 more) to overlay errata on the board.

If true, I suppose I'll have to do that myself with a little Photoshopping if I wish to go as far as adopting all the new changes in the "revised" edition.  At this point, that's questionable. I don't see how the Mystic turning characters evil can be justified - entirely unnecessary.

More and more, I grow nostalgic for the days of 2nd edition (even with its faults)... as do those with whom I play the game.






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