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#1 Hastur

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:09 AM

www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/46095

 

I made an Excel spreadsheet with detailed information for each card, including rarity (from 1x to 6x in this set).

 

Enjoy!



#2 sabresythe94

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:19 AM

Great work!!  Now just give me pics and you will "make my day"!

:)  Thanks a lot.



#3 Osiris

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:04 AM

I am in your debt Hastur! Thank you for your hard work in compiling the base set!

 

I guess that leaves my schedule clear for a spot of deck building tonight, and tomorrow and......

 

Ooooh having looked through the list there are SO many good cards and so many ideas for decks buzzing around my head like flies from a Great Unclean one :P

 

I particularly like Judgement of Verena as it seems a solid strategy, but I also like the recursion aspect of prepare for war, reminds me of some good old school Mtg cards that I like to use :)

 

Awesome set!

 

OSIRIS



#4 orutra

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:01 AM

Hastur said:

www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/46095

 

I made an Excel spreadsheet with detailed information for each card, including rarity (from 1x to 6x in this set).

 

Enjoy!

 

you are soooo great

thanks 



#5 Ruvion

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:42 AM

Thanks GOO! You have made our day!



#6 jogo

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 11:58 AM

I would really like to read the card database, but I am using Gentoo GNU/Linux and I am not willing to pay for Excel (and my 300MHz CPU might not be that happy about compiling OOo).

You sent the attachment in Microsoft EXCEL  format, a secret proprietary format, so it is hard for me to read. If you send me plain text, HTML,CSV or PDF, then I could read it.

Distributing documents in Excel format is bad for you and for others. You can't be sure what they will look like if someone views them with a different version of Excel; they may not work at all.

Downloading Excel  documents is bad for you because they can carry viruses (see http://en.wikipedia....iki/Macro_virus). Uploading Excel documents is bad for you, because a Excel document normally includes hidden information about the author, enabling those in the know to pry into the author's activities (maybe yours). Text that you think you deleted may still be embarrassingly present. See http://news.bbc.co.u...ogy/3154479.stm for more info.

But above all, giving people Excel documents puts pressure on them to use Microsoft software and helps to deny them any other choice. In effect, you become a buttress of the Microsoft monopoly. This pressure is a major obstacle to the broader adoption of free software. Would you please switch to a different way of sending files to other people, instead of Excel format?

To convert the file to CSV using Excel is simple. Open the document, click on File, then Save As, and in the Save As Type strip box at the bottom of the box, choose CSV Document. Then choose Save. You can then upload  the new CSV document instead of your Excel  document. Note that Excel  changes in inconsistent ways—if you see slightly different menu item names, please try them.

Your computer may also have a program to convert to pdf format. Select File => Print. Scroll through available printers and select the pdf converter. Click on the Print button and enter a name for the pdf file when requested.

See http://www.gnu.org/p...ttachments.html for more about this issue. (changed Word to Excel and HTML to CSV)



#7 Kennon

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:28 PM

Jogo, if you're using a Linux distro, I'm certain you're familiar with the OpenOffice.Org project. It's a very full featured, open sourced office suite with full compatibility for Microsoft proprietary formats (including the newwest Office 2007 .docx and the like) as well as its' own open formats. I've been using the defacto standard in office documents (the Microsoft formats) for years without having to spend a dime on their Office Suite, all on my Windows based computer. The software is also available for a multitude of other systems, including, I'm sure, Gentoo. I highly suggest that you give it a try as a means to open a file in a format that is by and large the standard for how information is exchanged.

 

For your convience, here's a link to their main page:

OpenOffice.org



#8 jogo

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:47 PM

Kennon said:

 

Jogo, if you're using a Linux distro, I'm certain you're familiar with the OpenOffice.Org project. It's a very full featured, open sourced office suite with full compatibility for Microsoft proprietary formats (including the newwest Office 2007 .docx and the like) as well as its' own open formats. I've been using the defacto standard in office documents (the Microsoft formats) for years without having to spend a dime on their Office Suite, all on my Windows based computer. The software is also available for a multitude of other systems, including, I'm sure, Gentoo. I highly suggest that you give it a try as a means to open a file in a format that is by and large the standard for how information is exchanged.

 

For your convience, here's a link to their main page:

OpenOffice.org

 

 

I know OOo (as I wrote in my post), but it is not that fun to use OOo (with JRE as dependency) on my computer. Actually I dislike needing to open any heavyweight tools, if less (or any other a simple pager) could do it.

And sadly OOo is not providing full/errorfree support for .docx (or at least the documents my friend created with Word were not readable at my friends OO), because MS is shifting/hiding/patenting things.

And that there are maybe some workarounds is not changing my mind, about free software/documentation/speech...

And I am wondering why you think, just using a GNU/Linux distro is chained with knowledge. Some recent GNU/Linux are ways easier to use and better usable with less knowledge than Windows.



#9 Kennon

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 01:19 PM

I do apologize for missing your mention of OOo in the original post.

As far as compatibility goes, I have yet to have any issues myself or with the friends that also use OOo or Office when needing to transfer files between us, nor did I have any issues at college, so I suppose I can only really speak from personal experience there. System resources and the capability or lack thereof in running the software is simply not something that had occured to me in the current tech environment. I apologize as well for that assumption.

I do, however, still feel that the excel file as posted is in the standard for a large majority of the computer using world regardless of whether they use OOo or Office.

I'm not sure, though what your closing comment about being chained to knowledge by using a Linux distro means. If you're referring to my assumption that you'd heard of the OOo project, I wouldn't call my thought groundless. The vast majority of PCs are not sold with Gentoo preinstalled, so your statement that you're running that system must have come from a personal choice to install and utilize that software unless the system was given to you/ installed by someone else. Likewise, you speak of compiling, which is not something that your avering Windows or Mac OS user ever has to encounter and learn how to accomplish. Finally you use the term GNU/Linux which speaks of knowledge of certain parts of the OSS community- in particular that which holds issue to the short term Linux essentially ignoring part of the the system's naming and liscencing. If these clues led to my innappropriate assumption which in turn resulted in attributing a higher level of knowledge to you than is due, I wholeheartedly apologize. Though, I think, in general people would rather be assumed smarter than they are than not.



#10 vermillian

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 02:07 PM

Tech troll succesfully derailed this thread! OH NO!

lol

I use open office myself...



#11 Osiris

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 11:40 PM

Or Google docs. Works for me :)



#12 Penek

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 02:25 AM

jogo said:

 

I know OOo (as I wrote in my post), but it is not that fun to use OOo (with JRE as dependency) on my computer. Actually I dislike needing to open any heavyweight tools, if less (or any other a simple pager) could do it.

And sadly OOo is not providing full/errorfree support for .docx (or at least the documents my friend created with Word were not readable at my friends OO), because MS is shifting/hiding/patenting things.

 

Seems you not know OO well, as that uploaded file is just *.xls and not Office 2007 format. And i just for test oppened that file with OO on my pc without any glitches or problems.



#13 ChaosChild

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 02:47 AM

jogo said:

I would really like to read the card database, but I am using Gentoo GNU/Linux and I am not willing to pay for Excel (and my 300MHz CPU might not be that happy about compiling OOo).

You sent the attachment in Microsoft EXCEL  format, a secret proprietary format, so it is hard for me to read. If you send me plain text, HTML,CSV or PDF, then I could read it.

Distributing documents in Excel format is bad for you and for others. You can't be sure what they will look like if someone views them with a different version of Excel; they may not work at all.

Downloading Excel  documents is bad for you because they can carry viruses (see http://en.wikipedia....iki/Macro_virus). Uploading Excel documents is bad for you, because a Excel document normally includes hidden information about the author, enabling those in the know to pry into the author's activities (maybe yours). Text that you think you deleted may still be embarrassingly present. See http://news.bbc.co.u...ogy/3154479.stm for more info.

But above all, giving people Excel documents puts pressure on them to use Microsoft software and helps to deny them any other choice. In effect, you become a buttress of the Microsoft monopoly. This pressure is a major obstacle to the broader adoption of free software. Would you please switch to a different way of sending files to other people, instead of Excel format?

To convert the file to CSV using Excel is simple. Open the document, click on File, then Save As, and in the Save As Type strip box at the bottom of the box, choose CSV Document. Then choose Save. You can then upload  the new CSV document instead of your Excel  document. Note that Excel  changes in inconsistent ways—if you see slightly different menu item names, please try them.

Your computer may also have a program to convert to pdf format. Select File => Print. Scroll through available printers and select the pdf converter. Click on the Print button and enter a name for the pdf file when requested.

See http://www.gnu.org/p...ttachments.html for more about this issue. (changed Word to Excel and HTML to CSV)

On the other hand, you could just say thank you to the OP for providing the information in the first place, instead of feeling the need to preach to him just because you, personally, don't approve of the format.

So I'll say it for you. Thanks, very much appreciated.



#14 Marius

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 04:05 AM

vermillian said:

Tech troll succesfully derailed this thread! OH NO!

lol

I use open office myself...

Hmmmm... Troll Vomit! :D

I have exchanged a lot of files with Hastur, using Excel at work, OOo at home, and just Google docs or Google "show as HTML" in general. The only virus I got from Hastur ever was the Yellow Sign, which is understandable. Not looking at the files is an option too ;)

Well, maybe I'll work out some solution.



#15 jogo

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 01:35 AM

I finally read it on a friends pc and the cards look great.

And great work done to provide them to the community.



#16 Penek

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 03:30 AM

Translated list from Hastur on Russian, if any Russians are here =

www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/46140






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