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#1 Lumberjack Nick

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 07:48 PM

Not sure if you heard but Lucasfilm has recently told Hasbro to absolutely not release anymore EU action figures. Anything they are currently releasing is fine, eg Mara Jade, but no more time will be put into developing EU figures for the foreseen future for Hasbro.

Maybe FFG releasing their EU focused wave so soon was a move to get them into the public awareness before Lucasfilm could make their current EU freeze mandate.

Could Lucasfilm's EU freeze on Hasbro also extend over into FFG's games? What do you think? Are we going to see anymore EU ships after this upcoming wave?

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 07:53 PM

FFG and LFL work together on every single ship in every single wave.  There is a large difference between a ship and a human character.


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#3 That One Guy

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 07:53 PM

Well, since FFG is not owed by, nor is it a subsidiary of Hasbro, I don't imagine so.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:12 PM

worst case we go to shape ways...lol  btw I thought Disney owned everything?  but I don't know??  did Lucas keep some licenses?? 


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:15 PM

The issue is not whether FFG and Hasbro have a business relationship.  I think Lumberjack Nick is trying to draw attention to this is the first action that Lucasfilm has taken in licensing since their recent announcement that the EU is being..."demoted" (for want of a better word) in favor lf what will be shown in the films in Episode VII+.

 

So the next obvious question for us as the players and fans of a game that has pretty much used up all of the fighters from the films IV-VI is "Will FFG be told not to make any more EU ships?".  Especially thought provoking since Wave 4 consists of nothing but EU ships.

 

Time will tell...


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#6 Hexis

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:19 PM

The EU didn't get demoted, it got elevated to the same level.  It's considered full canon, we just don't know what's not included in the full version yet.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:21 PM

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:25 PM

Honestly, I foresee FFG being pulled into the LFL/Disney marketing plan. LFL used WOTC to help promote ROTS, The Force Unleashed, and The Clone Wars. As much as I want certain ships for Wave 5, I imagine Wave 5 is going to be Rebels related. With the next year shifting to Episode VII.

 

So yes, I imagine FFG will not have the freedom they used to have to choose which ships to make. How far reaching that will be remains to be seen.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 09:10 PM

I've a bad feeling about this
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Posted 18 February 2014 - 09:23 PM

I've a bad feeling about this

Liked this at first, then thought about it and realized I don't like it, just agree with it.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 09:41 PM

The issue is not whether FFG and Hasbro have a business relationship.  I think Lumberjack Nick is trying to draw attention to this is the first action that Lucasfilm has taken in licensing since their recent announcement that the EU is being..."demoted" (for want of a better word) in favor lf what will be shown in the films in Episode VII+.

 

So the next obvious question for us as the players and fans of a game that has pretty much used up all of the fighters from the films IV-VI is "Will FFG be told not to make any more EU ships?".  Especially thought provoking since Wave 4 consists of nothing but EU ships.

 

Time will tell...

 

If you see an E-Wing in the next movie it wont be "EU" anymore. I'm sure there will be new ships as well, but I wouldn't rule out FFG making anything we think is EU when it in fact might show up on screen and we just don't know it yet. Didn't think the Headhunter was EU anymore since Clone Wars had a variant of it though. 

 

Either way I could understand yanking the lease on Hasbro, their product is in a lot more stores than FFG's are and character figures could either give up plot points or serve to confuse people/kids. Plus I'm sure 477 different Mara Jades is enough for collectors collectors anyway. Fighter combat on the other hand isn't terribly revealing to plot and most of the people I've seen playing are old enough to know where Tie Defenders come from (Mommy and Daddy Tie Defenders obviously).

 

I would guess they could tighten the leash on FFG for any number of reasons but there are still ships from the films still unused and I'm 100% sure Rebels will give them things to work with as well. Of course as long as I get my Avenger and Gunboat I could care less what happens after that.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:31 PM

Not worried.
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Posted 18 February 2014 - 11:48 PM

A possible explanation is that Episode 7 will be dealing with EU material and Lucasfilm/Disney wants to make sure any new products produced by Hasbro have tie-ins with the new film.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 11:56 PM

A possible explanation is that Episode 7 will be dealing with EU material and Lucasfilm/Disney wants to make sure any new products produced by Hasbro have tie-ins with the new film.

This makes the most sense. Star Wars has been all about the toys for decades. I would have to imagine they are stopping current EU production to work on all the Star Wars 7 stuff and to drum up more business.. No new Star Wars toys for several months? BAM! NUMBER 7 IS OUT! TOYS! TOYS EVERYWHEEEERE!


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 03:39 AM

All this means is that Disney haven't yet set in stone the EU that they want as canon. Not a problem. They will be allowed to make new EU stuff as soon as its nailed down
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 04:06 AM

The EU didn't get demoted, it got elevated to the same level.  It's considered full canon, we just don't know what's not included in the full version yet.

 

No is is not.

 

They have stated that everything published from now on is canon.

(so star wras rebels will be canon, but Mara Jade is not)

 

It would never ever work to make the EU canon as much of it contradicts the movies.

 

What is canon is dictated by the Lucasfilm Story Group


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 05:25 AM

Maybe it's time for a new term: IU (Included Universe) ?!?

 

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#18 LordCole

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 06:30 AM

Maybe it's time for a new term: IU (Included Universe) ?!?

 

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IU is a good idea, spread it around...

A prime example would be Jedi Quinlan Vos, prior to his being mentioned in RotS he was just an EU character. Then he made an appearance in TCW, Hunt for Ziro episode I think. Now he is included but, how much of what he has effected in the SW universe is included?

Quinlan is part of the IU now... personally I would like to keep canon terms, characters and things, as references for the movies. General knowledge idea and concepts brought into canon from the EU would be easily marked as IU.
I am not saying we need to go through and re-classify everything, it would just seem to make better sense going forward.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 07:14 AM

Maybe it's time for a new term: IU (Included Universe) ?!?
 
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IU is a good idea, spread it around...
A prime example would be Jedi Quinlan Vos, prior to his being mentioned in RotS he was just an EU character. Then he made an appearance in TCW, Hunt for Ziro episode I think. Now he is included but, how much of what he has effected in the SW universe is included?
Quinlan is part of the IU now... personally I would like to keep canon terms, characters and things, as references for the movies. General knowledge idea and concepts brought into canon from the EU would be easily marked as IU.
I am not saying we need to go through and re-classify everything, it would just seem to make better sense going forward.

You should be careful using logic, someone might hear you.
I didn't mean for it to get this bad.

#20 Digitalkiller

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 07:23 AM

A possible explanation is that Episode 7 will be dealing with EU material and Lucasfilm/Disney wants to make sure any new products produced by Hasbro have tie-ins with the new film.

 

So this mean... a Han Solo action figure with... belly? :D


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